The Bomber Morris Issue

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  1. 2012....Sharks Year

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    Might be on my own but I’d extend Bomber for one more year..... with Mooney pulling the recruitment strings and Bomber bringing the young blokes through it could be a good combo imo. Players we’re attempting to recruit for 22 will want to know who’s at the helm.
     
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  2. Inferno

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    There's no point giving him 1 year.

    Off contract this year we have
    Dugan: ~ 600k
    Shaun Johnson: ~800k
    Moylan: ~800K
    Woods: ~650K


    That's 1/3 of our salary cap. If he's going to be re-signed it should be for 2-3 years. If not then we're just going to be saddling a new coach with a bunch of talent he may not want.
     
  3. Stake Removed

    Stake Removed Moderator Staff Member

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    When Bomber appointed Hannay that was enough for me,
     
  4. Quigs

    Quigs Immortal

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    Is there any NRL Club that is not embroiled with internal shit fights?

    Watching league nooze is like waiting for whose next.

    Funny old season this one and it 'ain't' over yet. Not by a long shot.
     
  5. Craigshark

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  6. azzah72

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    Bomber deserves his chance to build and coach the team he wants, not this injury-prone retirement village he has right now.

    He's proven he can get the team to attack and attack well.

    He's shown he can instil the attitude in most of the players to give a shit.

    Sure he needs a few things tightened up, particularly defence but he was running off an oily rag and I truly believe he has the right stuff given time.

    It just may mean we need to cop a couple of "rebuilding" years, patience will be the key.

    knowing the sharks, we will offload him, he'll end up somewhere else, probably attract all of the young guns he's blooded to his new club and we'll end up with Stephen Kearney or Siebold or some shit.
     
  7. Eion

    Eion First Grade

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    I’ve got no problems waiting 10 weeks or so before considering his position.

    Its not like Morris is in high demand in the market. Imagine if we sign him for 2-3 years now and don’t win a game for 2 months? It doesn’t matter if you have a contract or not, the pressure will come to dump him.
     
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  8. Chimp

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    100% right - I can’t see any clubs lining up wanting to poach him. We don’t want to be ‘doing a Mary’....

    That being said, I’m glad he’s having those medical retirement conversations - those are the tough conversations he needs to have..... Hopefully he’ll have some ‘either make your tackles or F-Off somewhere else’ conversations with the whole squad too.
     
  9. Tiger Shark

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    I'm more than happy to wait till 10 or so weeks in but a few things concern me

    SJ is out for the first maybe 10 weeks. If we're running with a Trindall/Chad/Tracey halves combo I'm not confident we'll have a very good 10 weeks. Is Morris going to be judged on that ? I really hope not.

    How will it affect recruitment ? Players want to know who the coach is. Are big key signings going to be interested if we don't have a coach?

    I think Mooney plays a key part. He might think it necessary to have Morris extended to help with recruitment. He might not think it necessary. Probably hasn't worked with Morris too much but they'd know each other when Mooney was his earlier. Mooney might have recruited him actually ??
     
  10. ghoti

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    The whole discussion around Bomber has been interesting...those in favour of keeping him tend to focus on how unfair it's been on him and the shit he's dealt with, that he deserves a shot with his own squad. You don't hear that much for NRL coaches, reward for perseverance. Shows how likeable Bomber is I guess?

    I'm lately more of the mind that he should stay since it truly is impressive how well he did with all the shit thrown at him...and FINALLY had our juniors coming through which we've missed for a long long time.

    The news story is a beat up Imo
     
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  11. Frailty

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    Honestly, if Fifita and Moylan are upset with their performance review, then they clearly can't deal with reality too well.

    The Sharks are screwing over Morris here. If they are really giving him '10 weeks to prove his position', whilst they know Johnson will be out of the team, then just sack him now. It's an absolute joke that the club is going to side with Fifita and Moylan over a coach that has brought through some amazing talent the past two seasons.
     
  12. 2012....Sharks Year

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    Buzz stirring the pot yet again....shit merkin
     
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  13. 1990 sharkie

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    Buzz needs covid19
     
  14. Eion

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    Exactly.

    Fifita himself has said he’s frustrated with his injury.
     
  15. Tiger Shark

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    He's made it clear he likes Morris and doesn't like Fifita from previous comments Fifita has made about him. So trying to shed then in a bad light.
     
  16. shadowboxer

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    Buzz must of written that in a portaloo down down at sharks park - there’s crap all the way through it.
    He is a dead set flog
     
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  17. Weaponhead

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    Morris is either the right man to take the club forward or he is not. The club needs to make a decision based on the next 3 to 5 years not the first 10 weeks of the season. Everyone knows next year will be a transition with moving on big contracts. The amount of cap to invest for 22 on requires a strategic approach to build a squad that can challenge.
     
  18. Stake Removed

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    If we wait 10 weeks there is potential to miss out on quality players who will want to know who is the coach going forward, they also may not want to deal with any players we sign up to then.

    Looking at coaches available for 2022 there is plenty of quality already with proven success.
    Bomber seems like a good guy but him signing Hannay straight up looked likes he wanted somewhere there who is not a direct threat to his job, he could have even gone down picking a Neil Henry type but no.
    A quick glance who is off contract for 2022

    Des Hasler
    Craig Bellamy
    Wayne Bennett
    Michael Maguire
    Shane Flanagan
    Paul Green
    Geoff Toovey
    Bernie McDermott

    All of these coaches are higher profile coaches who would be able to entice players to the club and put structures in place
     
  19. shaggs

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    So you are looking at replacing a coach who has upset his underperforming players with a list of coaches known for upsetting their underperforming players.
    Hasler will never leave manly
    Bellamy won’t ever coach against the storm
    Bennett if you want the cap worse than it is now
    Macguire will sack Fifita straight away
    Flanagan can duck off
    Green nothing without JT
    Toovey, why is he high profile? Because he was on fox sports?
    McDermott struggled with an open cheque book at Wolfpack. Never tried in the nrl. Style wouldn’t translate.
     
  20. Mr Angry

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    I am happy Morris went there.

    Tell you what Andrew and Matt, prove him wrong, have great seasons, stay fit.
     

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