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Get Rid of The Donkeys

Get Rid of The Donkeys

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titoelcolombiano said:
Were they QRL owned though? I seem to remember this being the case but not 100% sure
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The QRL backed the Crushers' bid to the detriment or North Queensland's bid. Cowboys had to do it on their own. It was a miracle we got a team in 1995 as we were at the bottom of the queue.

I'm glad the silver spoon Crushers got canned while the Cowboys survived against all the odds.
 
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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
The QRL backed the Crushers' bid to the detriment or North Queensland's bid. Cowboys had to do it on their own. It was a miracle we got a team in 1995 as we were at the bottom of the queue.

I'm glad the silver spoon Crushers got canned while the Cowboys survived against all the odds.
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Yeah, only two of the class of 95 made it. I wonder if the Crushers were still around if there would even be an opportunity for clubs like Redcliffe, Ipswich and Easts to bid for an NRL spot this year. Brisbane 3 doesn't sound unreasonable I guess, especially given that it would have been 26 years since Brisbane 2 (Crushers) were introduced.
 
The Axe of Druss

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Perth Red said:
Yeh in a century Redcliffe dolphins might be a global brand playing in an internationally followed competition and Redcliffe will be celebrated accordingly lol. Whilst I don’t think it’s make or break it certainly helps if you’ve got some level of geographical identity and therefore attachment At the beginning.
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Point stands and you know it

Yes I agree a geo name is needed, just don't agree it needs to be wide reaching to appeal to fans outside the area. 1000s of examples world wide of it being totally irrelevant
 
The Axe of Druss

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big hit! said:
Context is relevant. Why are Chelsea a global brand, but Fulham aren't? They are clubs named after neighbouring areas in West London. They both play in different stadiums in Fulham! Yet one is massive in London and around the world and the other is just a suburban London football club.

End of day, and we both agree, Redcliffe should remain the Dolphins name in NRL. Port Adelaide are the best example of it already having worked in Australian sport. They were a second tier club based in Alberton (Port Adelaide district), and play AFL games in a central venue in the city of Adelaide which will be no different to what Redcliffe will be doing in the NRL. Ultimately, no many people will care where they will train. They are playing in the centre of Brisbane so will appeal to all people who can access this venue. It is accepted though that the club will focus its initial target area as the Moreton Bay and Sunshine Coast regional areas. They shouldn't ignore the rest of Brisbane though.

Yes, for Port Adelaide it was predominantly Magpies supporters from the SANFL that followed them into the AFL, but 25 years down the track, they are now a choice for all of Adelaide and South Australia when it comes to a club for them to support. And they are. It would be no different for Redcliffe - they just need to be a competitive club and not a basket case.
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Cheers for makeing my point for me that the name is mostly irrelevant and that sticking to the more well know one is the best option

Knew you'd come around
 
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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
The QRL backed the Crushers' bid to the detriment or North Queensland's bid. Cowboys had to do it on their own. It was a miracle we got a team in 1995 as we were at the bottom of the queue.

I'm glad the silver spoon Crushers got canned while the Cowboys survived against all the odds.
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Cough cough... Super League cough cough saved them along with most teams
 
Get Rid of The Donkeys

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MugaB said:
Cough cough... Super League cough cough saved them along with most teams
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Of the four expansion clubs, The Cowboys were the least likely to gain admission in 1995. It's a miracle they lasted until 1997. Yes, we were bailed out by News Ltd. So were The Reds. Look at what happened to them.
 
The Silverdale Phantom

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None of this matters now when the club is managed by boofs.

Take a Kevvie, lobotomise him by 45%, let him go out on a week long Mad Monday screaming bender, drag his sorry ass up to the Dolphins head office. There he is, lying across the desk, passed out and snoring away. Put a biro in his stubby red hands and hey presto, Dolphins Recruitment Manager First Class

That’s how it’s looking from my Dolphin member updates. An alert rings on my phone every time Kevvie stirs or talks in his sleep:

Zzzzz “ Look who is boss now Clint” zzzz

Don’t get me wrong fellas, I’m enjoying every sorry second of it.
 
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Perth Red

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Get Rid of The Donkeys said:
The QRL backed the Crushers' bid to the detriment or North Queensland's bid. Cowboys had to do it on their own. It was a miracle we got a team in 1995 as we were at the bottom of the queue.

I'm glad the silver spoon Crushers got canned while the Cowboys survived against all the odds.
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Where the Cowboys owned by News ltd pre SL or did they take them over in 96/97 like they did the Reds?
 
Get Rid of The Donkeys

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Perth Red said:
Where the Cowboys owned by News ltd pre SL or did they take them over in 96/97 like they did the Reds?
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I can't remember the exact date, but I think it might have been in the early 2000s that News Ltd became heavily involved. Up until then I think they bailed them out financially, but I am not sure if they ran the Cowboys.
 
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The Axe of Druss said:
And yet you thought Sunshine State was a good name. Make your mind up
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Do keep you up. Quick update - the club have dropped Redcliffe from the name of their NRL brand. Apparently they want to appeal to a market that's broader than the Redcliffe peninsula, Moreton Bay or the Northern Brisbane region of the metropolitan, and take in the Sunshine Coast too. It's a poor decision IMO, but if the club aren't going to go back on it and simply relegate the proud Redcliffe name since 1947 to a feeder league, then another name, any name other than The Dolphins, Northern Brisbane Dolphins, Greater Brisbane Dolphins, or Greater Northern Brisbane Dolphins would be better. Sunshine State was just one I suggested with some reasoning that it encompasses their target areas.

Golden State Warriors is an example of a sports team that managed around the difficulty of geographical name to appeal to all basketball fans in the San Francisco Bay Area. Yes, Golden State is a moniker of the state of California, just as Sunshine State is a moniker of the state of Queensland, with the later having the added benefit of playing on the name of a target region. Golden State Warriors don't need to appeal to the Los Angeles/SoCal market which the Clippers and Lakers cover. Likewise, a team called Sunshine State don't necessarily need to appeal to the Gold Coast or North Queensland markets which already have their own teams.

What it needs to do is appeal to mostly Southern Queensland folks who want to travel to Lang Park to watch boof heads cart a ball up and get tackled, but don't yet support any of those existing clubs.

You capish? I don't think so!! :laughing:
 
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Perth Red said:
Who owned the cowboys when they were admitted?
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The idea of a Townsville-based team was promoted by sports reporter Doug Kingston after thousands of RL fans queued for hours to buy a ticket to see The Donkeys play The Peels at Townsville Sports Reserve. Some fans queued for 10 hours.

Kingston called every hotel in town on game day to see where Ken Arthurson was staying. He tracked him down and asked him if North Queensland would ever get a team in the cockroach competition. Arthurson's response was: "Looking at the way the public has supported this game, I'd have to say yes."

"The success of the Panasonic Cup match up here has been beyond our wildest dreams. We had heard that rugby league had a big following up in this area but this has been incredible. I don't know of any game that has sold 14,000 tickets in a single day, and any doubts about the area's ability to support a Winfield Cup team here have been well and truly laid to rest.

"We are now looking very seriously at playing a Winfield Cup game here in Townsville later in the year and I'm confident that North Queensland will eventually have a team in either the NSW league or a new national competition. I don't like putting dates on things, but I expect that it will certainly happen within the next five years. It could even be as early as 1991."

The QRL threw a tantrum about Arthurson's comment as they wanted a second team in Brisbane.

Arthurson said: " If there is going to be a second team in Queensland, I think it has to be based in the north."

John Ribot supported the North Queensland bid.

North Queensland Newspapers executive chairman Ron McLean, Townsville Rugby League president Ray Stuart, ex-Test player and local resident Brian Fitzsimmons, Townsville barrister Bob Pack and regional manager of Castlemaine Perkins (XXXX) Dennis Pegg played a role in creating the bid for a North Queensland team.
 
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