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The five most complete musicians

m0j0

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Ron Jeremy said:
4. Eddie Van halen- ok i know what you guys & gals are going to say and believe me i'm even getting sick & tired of talking about him but i had to include him, i tried to think of others that could've taken his spot but couldn't, i'll tell you why i chose him.

Not only is he probably the most influential guitarist of the past 50 years he possess other great talents including a remarkable voice which isn't really ever heard. You can hear his voice in VH's harmony which made it one of VH's greatest traits, i urge posters to listen to old style VH to see what i'm talking about.

He never wanted to sing though, but merely just focus on the guitar side of things, plus he's classically trained, a reasonable song writer & a competent drummer ( he actually started on drums before switching with Alex).

If you really want to hear Eddie's vocals, listen to "How Many Say I" on their last studio album - Van Halen III. I wouldn't say he's got the greatest voice ever, but for a guitarist with that many years of alcohol abuse and chain smoking behind him, it's fairly impressive.

As for complete musicians, I'd definately have Steve Vai in my list. On quite a few of his albums he's played everything from guitar (of course) and bass to drums and some obscure instruments, as well as sing on many tracks.
 

NZ Warrior

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hrundi99 said:
I'll continue to disagree, but I'm letting it go.

My favouirite "current bands" are
Teenage Fanclub
Sloan
Guided By Voices

Tear them apart all you like.

I haven't heard of any of them. And because of that, I shall not pass judgment on them.
 

JJ

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Gilmour but not Waters??

Lennon but not McCartny??

Waters was much more important to Pink Floyd that Gilmour - great guitarist yes, but Waters is a genius.

If Jimmy Page could write decent lyrics and sing (I'm assuming that's what you mean by complete), then I'd suggest him, and the same would apply for Keith Richards...

Eric Clapton has to be right up there (certainly well above someone like van Halen).
 

LESStar58

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In terms of musicians I admire I would have to say the following 3 are my all time "supergroup".

Page Hamilton (Helmet)
Rob Trujillo (Suicidal Tendencies, Infectious Grooves, Metallica)
Josh Freese (The Vandals, A Perfect Circle, Mike Ness Band, Avril Lavigne, the Aquabats, Suicidal Tendencies, No Doubt, Alanis Morisette, Bic Runga and a sh*tload more!)

I speak highly of those 3 in particular becase they were never restrainted by the genre of music they played with and in most cases could make it work really well... Page Hamilton is a trained jazz guitarist and you can here it shine through on Helmet's 1994 album Betty....

Same with Trujillo, the guy would have been trained in every bass style under the sun and his playing went well beyond the thrash/metal style that he played with Suicidal Tendencies. Listen to Infectious Grooves The Plague That Make Your Booty Move... and here the slap intro Rob plays on "Punk It Up" and see what I'm talking about.

As for Freese, the guy started out as a studio musician and session drummer. He has played for more than just the folks I listed above. Just having to adapt to all kinds of styles with all these different artists would make anyone as phenomenal drummer as Freese.

And I know I'll come off as biased here cos I'm a huge Living End fan but Chris Cheney is the best gAustralian itarist going around at the moment. I read an interview with him where he talked about when he was studying music at TAFE and he had to write scores for big bands and jazz arrangements and it used to scare the sh*t out of him! Apparently for his final recital/exam he scored a ridiclous 98% or something like that and nobody has beaten it. Again, another example of a clasically trained musician who can bring thosde qualities out in what style he does best (i.e. rock n roll/punk/rockabilly)...
 

Haynzy

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1. As much as I love Lennon...McCartney

2. Sting, the man is amazing, great muso and songwriter

3. James Brown, as crazy as he is his interpretation of the groove has left a huge footprint on popular music.

4. Miles Davis. I'm not a huge fan of his later fusion stuff but 'kind of blue' and 'birth of cool' are musical landmarks.

5. Ella Fitzgerald changed the way women sing and her influence is still felt.

phew so many to choose.....it's hard to come up with only 5
 

Raiders Plight

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carcharias said:
Huh ?

(me)as a guitar player of 18 years I think he goes alright.

i only know him from what i've heard with the foo fighters so when the foo fighters decide to use a new chord in their music tell me.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Raiders Plight said:
i only know him from what i've heard with the foo fighters so when the foo fighters decide to use a new chord in their music tell me.

Check out Probot (Grohl's metal side-project with a whole lot of guest singers from cult bands and each song in that band's style) and some of the other acts he's done guest work with.
 

CliffyIsGod

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Probot is not metal.

Probot is sh*t and lame. There would be all of one solo on that record. Jack Black's song is lame.

Dave Grohl = over-rated.
 

SpaceMonkey

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CliffyIsGod said:
Probot is not metal.

Probot is sh*t and lame. There would be all of one solo on that record. Jack Black's song is lame.

Dave Grohl = over-rated.

What has the number of solos on a record got to do with whether something is metal (or good for that matter) or not?
As for whether Probot is metal, Cronos, Max Cavalera, Snake, Lee Dorian, Wino, Tom G. Warrior, Eric Wagner and King Diamond are metal legends and they all feature on the record, so I'd say it's pretty f*ckin' metal.
 

CliffyIsGod

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Have you heard it? It's about as heavy as Roy Bell.

It's a fizzer, and most people have recognised that. It should have been done a lot, lot better.

What a waste of people like Lemmy and Max Cavalera's time.
 

SpaceMonkey

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I've got it, didn't think it was too bad. Admittedly I'd rather listen to most of the singers original bands though.
 

hrundi99

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carcharias said:
sparky's dream is a great song.

There are plenty more where that came from.

Pick up a copy of Grand Prix. You can get it at Discount CDs for $10. It's a supreme melodic pop/rock album.
 

carcharias

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hrundi99 said:
There are plenty more where that came from.

Pick up a copy of Grand Prix. You can get it at Discount CDs for $10. It's a supreme melodic pop/rock album.
I have it and Bandwagonseque
I also have some photo's of them I took from up near the front of the stage at a BDO.

Great band.Great melodies.Great harmonies.Great songs.

ah yes ...the mid 90's, when long hair on flanolette ruled the earth.
 
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Stevie Wonder. Had 4-5 brilliant albums in a row in the 70s, where he wrote the songs, sang, arranged, played most of the instruments.

One of the most talented musicians ever. Light years ahead of Prince, Phil Collins and some others mentioned here.
 

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