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[Knownothing]

On the weekend when England played Fiji the RL(2.2million viewers) out rated on the same time and day a RU test match between England & Argentina(541,000), and the EPL(soccer for u pillock! 871,000) .

TROLL.

So, does this mean that the days of discrimination and the power of the establishment in England to destroy rugby league and keep it down are drawing to an end?


In these days of fully professional sport, money talks, and b*llsh*t walks, so the more attractive, more competitive, better administered, codes will win. Do you agree?

 

[Te Kaha]

Even in England the RL world cup games of England are out rating other codes by millions.

This is your claim.. after i show you what a twat you are i hope you admit you are wrong.

Rugby games last weekend
Wal v Arg BBC1: 2.48m
Ire v Aus BBC2: 2.23m
Eng v NZ SS1: 1.22m

League QF
Eng v Fra BBC2: 1.57m

All irrelevant of course... except to ask If league is as great a game as you say it is why is there only 2 odd million out of 63 Milion watching? its almost like people excercised their perogative not to watch it due to it not being their taste.

Do some reading and research you pillock! On the weekend when England played Fiji the RL(2.2million viewers) out rated on the same time and day a RU test match between England & Argentina(541,000), and the EPL(soccer for u pillock! 871,000) .These are real TV ratings figures in England. Knowing your form you won't be able to figure out what the number comparisons are and what they mean!

Nov 9 same day as the England vs Fiji Barb.co.uk
RUGBY UNION (SAT 1701)1.87Mill

RL is a very popular and relatively undiscovered sports TV product of which many people watch in preference to other football codes!

So its "many" now... so you finally admit League just isnt everybodies preference... admiting that will bring you closer to the truth.

You have no idea do you?

I'm sure you are not a RL fan and this is reflected in your comments.

TROLL.

And I'm sure you are a geniused moron, but as this is an internet message board we will never know for sure.

 

[Bronco Rob]

So you have no answer do you.. there are half a dozen reasons in the preceding posts why League isnt the No1 code around the world, but you STILL maintain the main reason is Rugby keeping it down.

You are a moron... pure and simple.

And which codes in England are WC games "out rating other codes by millions"? Its not Soccer, its not Rugby, its not even Darts... which codes?

And why hasnt League taken over WA or SA or even Vic? You say its the best game in the world and everybody loves it.. Its certainly not rugby, they are small blips in those states.

What I can't understand Te Kaha, is why you are a moderator in a RUGBY LEAGUE forum but yet you and a couple of others in this thread take great delight in belittling and talking down the sport. Do you actually like the game or not or are you just a Trojan horse that comes into here under the pretence of giving a shit about Rugby League? Does Rugby League hold any relevance to you at all or is this forum just a medium for you to belittle Rugby League?

 

[magpie4ever]

What I can't understand Te Kaha, is why you are a moderator in a RUGBY LEAGUE forum but yet you and a couple of others in this thread take great delight in belittling and talking down the sport. Do you actually like the game or not or are you just a Trojan horse that comes into here under the pretence of giving a shit about Rugby League? Does Rugby League hold any relevance to you at all or is this forum just a medium for you to belittle Rugby League?

What by presenting facts. You can either live in the real world or a fantasy land where rugby league is the only and the greatest football sport ever.

Get serious, LJC is a f**king dropkick who belives there is a conspiracy by union (worldwide) to stop league's advancement. The real problem is the world governing body for league has been dormant and the expansion (or non-expansion) of the game lies at their feet.

 

[POPEYE]

There's no hope for a sport wanting to become strong internationally when it is only played in isolated pockets, even in Australia with its piddling population League is not a national game.

The heirarchy of a game that cannot comprehend survival of the fittest in it's heartland can't expect to compete with even a mediocre sport like Union that sees a local competition as secondary to it's advancement internationally. Union is not holding back League it's merely trying to survive in the sphere it wants to be in.

League isn't even seriously attempting to motivate the whole of Australia let alone the World, for anyone to suggest Union would want to associate itself with a sport spinning its wheels is illogical. Union might be a shit of game but it doesn't shit in its own nest.

If you're happy where League is as AFL supporters are happy where their game is the to and fro between the two is all that need concern you. If you want League to be truly international the game has to get off its arse and not blame fictitional demons for obstructing its path.

 

[Te Kaha]

What I can't understand Te Kaha, is why you are a moderator in a RUGBY LEAGUE forum but yet you and a couple of others in this thread take great delight in belittling and talking down the sport. Do you actually like the game or not or are you just a Trojan horse that comes into here under the pretence of giving a shit about Rugby League? Does Rugby League hold any relevance to you at all or is this forum just a medium for you to belittle Rugby League?

Where have I "belittled" or "taken down" League? Did you read the thread or are you just having a sulk.. And "Trojan horse"???? you need to get a life away from the internet.. you, like LJC are taking it a tad serious.

 

[WireMan]

Expensive beer isn't really evidence of friends in high places or RU being the only rugby game in catholic schools (which is wrong anyway because RL has been in catholic schools since pre WWI)

The school i went to in the NW of England played RU not league. This is because you needed a degree to be a teacher and most people at Uni played RU and didn't know or follow RL.

These same university educated people also run the tv and media companies. Especially the London-centric BBC.

There's no hope for a sport wanting to become strong internationally when it is only played in isolated pockets, even in Australia with its piddling population League is not a national game.

The heirarchy of a game that cannot comprehend survival of the fittest in it's heartland can't expect to compete with even a mediocre sport like Union that sees a local competition as secondary to it's advancement internationally. Union is not holding back League it's merely trying to survive in the sphere it wants to be in.

League isn't even seriously attempting to motivate the whole of Australia let alone the World, for anyone to suggest Union would want to associate itself with a sport spinning its wheels is illogical. Union might be a shit of game but it doesn't shit in its own nest.

If you're happy where League is as AFL supporters are happy where their game is the to and fro between the two is all that need concern you. If you want League to be truly international the game has to get off its arse and not blame fictitional demons for obstructing its path.

Yup,

RL has always been a club game with an international scene secondary. It was set up by clubs, for clubs.

Union has always been an international sport with a club game secondary.

That is why the international game is bigger in Union.

The gap is closing though, if we can lose the 'Origin rugby is the bestest' attitude in Aus and the chip of the shoulder in Northern England the the game can grow more.
The international scene in Union is not as strong now either. Clubs (especially in France) want more then ever.

 

[Porkie]

What I can't understand Te Kaha, is why you are a moderator in a RUGBY LEAGUE forum but yet you take great delight in belittling and talking down the sport.

+1.

I can guarantee you league is is not his sport. I have never seen a league supporter so determined to rubbish the code.

Definitely a 'men in tights' or soccer fan.

 

[madunit]

Thats a pointless tangent entirely irrelevant to the topic.

 

[madunit]

WireMan, i was referring to Australian Catholic Schools.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[WireMan]

WireMan, i was referring to Australian Catholic Schools.

Sorry for the confusion.

Ah I see, no worries.


Carry on then.

 

[Bronco Rob]

What by presenting facts. You can either live in the real world or a fantasy land where rugby league is the only and the greatest football sport ever.

Get serious, LJC is a f**king dropkick who belives there is a conspiracy by union (worldwide) to stop league's advancement. The real problem is the world governing body for league has been dormant and the expansion (or non-expansion) of the game lies at their feet.

Indeed if you are a fan of the sport you do believe to yourself it's the greatest sport ever, isn't that what being a fan is all about?

What has LJC's character got to do with my query? LJC is passionate about his beloved sport, good on him and while he may a bit over zealous with his philosophies but at least he is passionate about Rugby League, a quality I don't see in quite a few posters in this thread.

Where have I "belittled" or "taken down" League? Did you read the thread or are you just having a sulk.. And "Trojan horse"???? you need to get a life away from the internet.. you, like LJC are taking it a tad serious.

Typical, skirting a direct response, are you or aren't you a fan of Rugby League?

 

[Te Kaha]

Indeed if you are a fan of the sport you do believe to yourself it's the greatest sport ever, isn't that what being a fan is all about?

So you are a "fan" of only one sport? how empty your life must be... If you are a fan of many sports how can you say one is better than the others and how does this make you less of a fan?

What has LJC's character got to do with my query? LJC is passionate about his beloved sport, good on him and while he may a bit over zealous with his philosophies but at least he is passionate about Rugby League, a quality I don't see in quite a few posters in this thread.

Passion is realative.. Soccer hooligans are passionate.. doesnt make it good.

Typical, skirting a direct response, are you or aren't you a fan of Rugby League?

Your opinion on whether i am a League fan or not is worthless and irrevant. You statted i had belittled League.. where? either provide examples AND the context of the comment or apologize and f**k off.

 

[Bronco Rob]

So you are a "fan" of only one sport? how empty your life must be... If you are a fan of many sports how can you say one is better than the others and how does this make you less of a fan?

Your opinion on whether i am a League fan or not is worthless and irrevant. You statted i had belittled League.. where? either provide examples AND the context of the comment or apologize and f**k off.

My life empty?? Coming from someone who posts tens of thousands of posts in a fourm of a sport that he may not even like?

I asked a question of you and then the opinion was formed from your reluctance to answer a simple enquiry. I'm not on here to quarrel but your constant willingness to defend anything that might question Rugby Union's character certainly comes across as someone who is masquerading as a bona-fide Rugby Leagu fan.

Sure stating that Rugby Union was the cause of RL not being bigger internationally is pure supposition, stating that it isn't can also be speculation and supposition but human nature always dictates where our loyalties lie.

 

[Te Kaha]

My life empty?? Coming from someone who posts tens of thousands of posts in a fourm of a sport that he may not even like?

Are you really that stupid? honestly? "tens of thousands of posts"? its less than four thousand for the ten plus years I have been on here... you need to go back to school and slap your teacher for forgetting to teach you to read.
And "fourm (sic) of a sport that he may not even like" you have no idea what sports I do or don't like, you are making shit up and guessing.. wrongly I might add...

I asked a question of you and then the opinion was formed from your reluctance to answer a simple enquiry. I'm not on here to quarrel but your constant willingness to defend anything that might question Rugby Union's character certainly comes across as someone who is masquerading as a bona-fide Rugby Leagu fan.

And once again, your opinions on the matter are worthless.. not to mention irrelevant to the thread.. either post a relevant post or refer to my earlier post and f**k off.

Sure stating that Rugby Union was the cause of RL not being bigger internationally is pure supposition,

Of course it is... but that's the entire basis of LJCs "argument".. its ludicrous and painfully obvious to everybody else that he is wrong.. his ego wont let him acknowledge that how ever.

stating that it isn't can also be speculation and supposition but human nature always dictates where our loyalties lie.

Here is a lesson in logic numbnuts.. you cant prove something doesn't exist.. you not only failed reading at school but science as well.

 

[Loudstrat]

Soccer has had more time to establish itself than any rugby code. Its also got great administration in stark contrast to RL.

Its also got absolute sh*tloads of money to throw around. League is a working class game, and if you think a few Sydney clubs propped up by poker machines, plus a handful of Pommy clubs funded by a few millionairs can compete with the entrenched snobbery of Union, or the phenomenal wealth and influence of soccer, you have NFI.

As for Te Kaha - trying yet again to inflict us all with his pro Union rants - :lol:

 

[VictoryFC]

What are you doing on this web site you TROLL!

You are no fan of the game of RL and the TV ratings of RL are immense compared to other football codes in Australia. If you look at a per capita basis the RL ratings figures are even more impressive. One wonders when RL finally expands to areas such as WA & SA how much bigger these ratings will be.

Even in England the RL world cup games of England are out rating other codes by millions.

Because its on free to air, compared to pay tv? England playing at the FIFA world cup got up to 22m for one game last time out.

Both the soccer and union ratings you brought up were on Sky Sports or BT (pay tv). Soccer/union ratings are higher than RL. Though SL rates as good as Aviva on Sky Sports.

 

[madunit]

Its also got absolute sh*tloads of money to throw around. League is a working class game, and if you think a few Sydney clubs propped up by poker machines, plus a handful of Pommy clubs funded by a few millionairs can compete with the entrenched snobbery of Union, or the phenomenal wealth and influence of soccer, you have NFI.

i didn't say, suggest or think that RL could compete with that.

All i said was that poor management by the international body has allowed repression to happen.

It has also been almost disinterested in expansion.

That has had more of a negative impact on RL's growth than any other code's actions against RL

 

[Bronco Rob]

Are you really that stupid? honestly? "tens of thousands of posts"? its less than four thousand for the ten plus years I have been on here... you need to go back to school and slap your teacher for forgetting to teach you to read.

And "fourm (sic) of a sport that he may not even like" you have no idea what sports I do or don't like, you are making shit up and guessing.. wrongly I might add...

And once again, your opinions on the matter are worthless.. not to mention irrelevant to the thread.. either post a relevant post or refer to my earlier post and f**k off.

Obviously I have touched a nerve, the high and mighty Te Kaha has resorted to playing the man rather than the ball. I still don't know how hard it is to give a reply of whether you actually like the game of Rugby League or not and your refusal to acknowledge either way gives great weight to the fact you are just a wolf is sheeps clothing!

Of course its relevant, it highlights where your agenda comes from in your posts.

Quite amusing or sad that Rugby Union sycophants are so insecure about their own sport they need to join League Forums. The same insecurities that has seen some RU authorities from allowing Rugby League to compete on an even playing field as highlighted in this thread.

 

[Te Kaha]

Obviously I have touched a nerve, the high and mighty Te Kaha has resorted to playing the man rather than the ball. I still don't know how hard it is to give a reply of whether you actually like the game of Rugby League or not and your refusal to acknowledge either way gives great weight to the fact you are just a wolf is sheeps clothing!

Of course its relevant, it highlights where your agenda comes from in your posts.

Quite amusing or sad that Rugby Union sycophants are so insecure about their own sport they need to join League Forums. The same insecurities that has seen some RU authorities from allowing Rugby League to compete on an even playing field as highlighted in this thread.

What complete and utter bullshit.. every point you have made is wrong or an outright lie.

And no it is in no way relevant, this thread has been about How apparently "Rugby is the main reason for League not being the number one sport on the planet"... your perception of my being a "fan" does in no way relate to that.

And I apologize for bringing up the fact you are a moron, I know its rude to mock the afflicted.