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[Poupou Escobar]

So you are stating your opinions as fact now?? you cant get more pathetic than that.

What you "think" is totally irrelevant to 99.9999999999 recuring % of the population. What is reality is much more relevant. And the reality of it is, the main reason why League isnt the dominant code on the planet is that not everybody likes it.

You cant even explain why league, in its no1 country, can only get TV figures which are a very good indication of support, less than five million in a country of 22 million odd.

That's because taste in sport is part of culture - we tend to like what we were brought up to like (especially half a century ago).

The other reason is that rugby league is hard to play. Unless you are very young or very fit it's easy to get hurt in rugby league. Rugby union much less so, and soccer even less than that.

I would happily go out tomorrow and play in a soccer match against a top European club side. Of course they would win comprehensively, but their players would be more likely to get hurt than me.

But I wouldn't play rugby league against an NRL side. I would almost certainly end up badly injured. Plus I would lose heavily.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Also, apologies if this has already been posted, but I have yet to read the entire thread.

The book in question is available on Kindle for five bucks: http://www.amazon.com/The-Forbidden...1384375399&sr=8-2&keywords=the+forbidden+game

 

[POPEYE]

Just to butt in and without expressing my miriad of scenarios why League is not as dominant as Union, imo human nature plays a part. Both Union and Cricket were never designed to put bread on the table, both games were for the upper class and at most merely invitational for anyone offering talent alone.

League's biggest hurdle has been it's perception which until modern times has been that of a mercenary interloper interfering and therefore detracting from a sport designed to allow gentlemen an outlet for manliness.

Soccer will always lead because the perception is of a game of talent alone, brutality is so abhorrent that it is accentuated by poor acting highlighting it's use. League will always be categorised amongst sports that people like to watch but most shudder to partcipate in, Union doesn't quite transgress that fine line in the minds of the majority.

Like Gaellic Football, Boxing and any other sport lacking 'charm' League will always be in the 'too hard basket' or 'not the done thing', except to those who think it's the greatest sport in the world and refuse to be convinced otherwise . . . f**king great to be a nonconformist

 

[byrner]

Pou, nice to see your logic brought to this thread.

 

[Te Kaha]

That's because taste in sport is part of culture - we tend to like what we were brought up to like (especially half a century ago).

The other reason is that rugby league is hard to play. Unless you are very young or very fit it's easy to get hurt in rugby league. Rugby union much less so, and soccer even less than that.

I would happily go out tomorrow and play in a soccer match against a top European club side. Of course they would win comprehensively, but their players would be more likely to get hurt than me.

But I wouldn't play rugby league against an NRL side. I would almost certainly end up badly injured. Plus I would lose heavily.

Just to butt in and without expressing my miriad of scenarios why League is not as dominant as Union, imo human nature plays a part. Both Union and Cricket were never designed to put bread on the table, both games were for the upper class and at most merely invitational for anyone offering talent alone.

League's biggest hurdle has been it's perception which until modern times has been that of a mercenary interloper interfering and therefore detracting from a sport designed to allow gentlemen an outlet for manliness.

Soccer will always lead because the perception is of a game of talent alone, brutality is so abhorrent that it is accentuated by poor acting highlighting it's use. League will always be categorised amongst sports that people like to watch but most shudder to partcipate in, Union doesn't quite transgress that fine line in the minds of the majority.

Like Gaellic Football, Boxing and any other sport lacking 'charm' League will always be in the 'too hard basket' or 'not the done thing', except to those who think it's the greatest sport in the world and refuse to be convinced otherwise . . . f**king great to be a nonconformist

All valid reasons why League isnt the no1 sport in the world... none of which have to do with Rugby's "Friends in high places" and "private school system" being the "Main" reason why not.

 

[POPEYE]

I would have to read all this thread before pretending to understand the substance but if anyone is claiming that Union has friends in high places which might in itself infer that private schools are out of the reach of anyone who needs to play a sport to earn money and by definition perveys a certain aloofness befitting Union then I would agree.

There is a place in the town I live, a drinking hole if you like, where tables are replaced by lounges and low glass coffee tables and drinks are way outside my affordability. Conversation is tempered and upper class males gather in front of a gigantic screen on special occasions like the playing of the Bledisloe.

Having found myself there on coincidence awaiting the start of a nearby concert I couldn't stop myself from announcing 'Go the Black' just to watch the reaction. You see, I consider Union the lower class game because it is the safer option and therefore I consider anyone suggesting it's superiority as pretentious.

Pretentious people rule the world hence Union being the preferred sport of the pretentious, along with cricket, League will never be allowed to escalate to such heights simply because the 'establishment' want it that way.

 

[madunit]

Expensive beer isn't really evidence of friends in high places or RU being the only rugby game in catholic schools (which is wrong anyway because RL has been in catholic schools since pre WWI)

 

[POPEYE]

None of it matters a tuppenny f**k to me anyway, as far as I'm concerned Union is summed up in one name, Campese . . . the epitomy of what Union is to League. A bloke Rah Rahs put on a pedestal who pretended he thought about playing League but couldn't bring himself to stoop so low. His self righteousness evident to all by the making of more money from an amateur sport than he could ever make from League once his incompetence had been exposed.

In reality he couldn't do anything but run fashionably quickly, he would be as tits on a bull to League. His self righteousness was only surpassed by ignorance of the fact League supporters could see through his bullshit when Rahs Rahs refused to believe it. Just about sums up Union and the fallacy surrounding it.

What do you think the result would be if the Kangaroo Squad went into camp for just a few months and practiced playing the Wallabies at their own game and vice versa. What you think the result would be would determine which game you should follow. LU's very own Bellyache took a squad of country bumpkin 13 year old mostly League players with one season's practice to Sydney as canon fodder against a Union schoolboy representative team and kicked their arse.

I don't know what the fuss is about in this thread, Union is a shit of a game with a scoring system for f**king pansies adjudicated upon by officials who answer to no-one

 

[magpie4ever]

None of it matters a tuppenny f**k to me anyway, as far as I'm concerned Union is summed up in one name, Campese . . . the epitomy of what Union is to League. A bloke Rah Rahs put on a pedestal who pretended he thought about playing League but couldn't bring himself to stoop so low. His self righteousness evident to all by the making of more money from an amateur sport than he could ever make from League once his incompetence had been exposed.

In reality he couldn't do anything but run fashionably quickly, he would be as tits on a bull to League. His self righteousness was only surpassed by ignorance of the fact League supporters could see through his bullshit when Rahs Rahs refused to believe it. Just about sums up Union and the fallacy surrounding it.

What do you think the result would be if the Kangaroo Squad went into camp for just a few months and practiced playing the Wallabies at their own game and vice versa. What you think the result would be would determine which game you should follow. LU's very own Bellyache took a squad of country bumpkin 13 year old mostly League players with one season's practice to Sydney as canon fodder against a Union schoolboy representative team and kicked their arse.

I don't know what the fuss is about in this thread, Union is a shit of a game with a scoring system for f**king pansies adjudicated upon by officials who answer to no-one

Ahhh, Ahhh; the wallabies would win the union game and the kangaroos would win the league game.

I don't believe you are aware of what a pious prick you come across as with the bullshit commentary above.

 

[POPEYE]

Apologies, refraining from getting hot under the collar whenever Union is referenced in a League forum is more difficult than giving up smoking. Must admit being aware of using piousness as an instrument is double jeopardy in this instance.

Naturally you are right for whatever pleasure it gives you, like country is to rock and roll, there is always the lesser if you can't perform the latter and I don't imagine the Kangaroos could ever defeat the All Blacks 15 on 15

 

[umina panther]

If both teams had the same forward pack in a game of union then the Kangaroos backs and halves would annihilate the Wallibies in a game.

 

[POPEYE]

If both teams had the same forward pack in a game of union then the Kangaroos backs and halves would annihilate the Wallibies in a game.

I reckon with practice Australian League's biggest boppers, might have to look outside the Kangaroos for additions, would at least hold the Wallaby forwards with practice while the backs did as you say. I'm sure Rose would put his heart and sole into the stoppage riddled fiasco

 

[Knownothing]

I'm sure Rose would put his heart and sole into the stoppage riddled fiasco

There are plenty of stoppages in American Football, and that is pretty popular with the Yanks.



So what on earth is holding Rugby League back in the US of A?

 

[POPEYE]

The Yanks are far too self centred to embrace a game they can't call their own, labelling the Baseball finals the 'World Series' just about sums up their hypocrisy.

Be thankful stamina orientated sports aren't conducive to promotional gimmickry, if they ever thought the American public could sit through 3 hours of an 80 minute Rugby League game you could kiss the salary cap goodbye and every top Australian/Kiwi/Pommie player with it.

They tried to buy the best Soccer had to offer but the Yanks couldn't quite cotton on to something that requires concentration, hence Cricket being far beyond the scope of their imagination. Can't blame them for having explosive sports inbred when blowing up people is part of their lifestyle

 

[LJC]

So you are stating your opinions as fact now?? you cant get more pathetic than that.

What you "think" is totally irrelevant to 99.9999999999 recuring % of the population. What is reality is much more relevant. And the reality of it is, the main reason why League isnt the dominant code on the planet is that not everybody likes it.

You cant even explain why league, in its no1 country, can only get TV figures which are a very good indication of support, less than five million in a country of 22 million odd.

What are you doing on this web site you TROLL!

You are no fan of the game of RL and the TV ratings of RL are immense compared to other football codes in Australia. If you look at a per capita basis the RL ratings figures are even more impressive. One wonders when RL finally expands to areas such as WA & SA how much bigger these ratings will be.

Even in England the RL world cup games of England are out rating other codes by millions.

 

[magpie4ever]

What are you doing on this web site you TROLL!

You are no fan of the game of RL and the TV ratings of RL are immense compared to other football codes in Australia. If you look at a per capita basis the RL ratings figures are even more impressive. One wonders when RL finally expands to areas such as WA & SA how much bigger these ratings will be.

Even in England the RL world cup games of England are out rating other codes by millions.

You dickhead.

 

[LJC]

you dickhead.

troll.

 

[magpie4ever]

troll.

Troll, yeah right.

You say the same shit post in, post out. You don't answer questons raised re: you post/s. You provide absolutely zero to the discussion.

You read a book on an extreme situation involving union and league within France during WW2 and applied it worldwide from day dot. You are a GOOSE.

 

[Te Kaha]

What are you doing on this web site you TROLL!

You are no fan of the game of RL and the TV ratings of RL are immense compared to other football codes in Australia. If you look at a per capita basis the RL ratings figures are even more impressive. One wonders when RL finally expands to areas such as WA & SA how much bigger these ratings will be.

Even in England the RL world cup games of England are out rating other codes by millions.

So you have no answer do you.. there are half a dozen reasons in the preceding posts why League isnt the No1 code around the world, but you STILL maintain the main reason is Rugby keeping it down.

You are a moron... pure and simple.

And which codes in England are WC games "out rating other codes by millions"? Its not Soccer, its not Rugby, its not even Darts... which codes?

And why hasnt League taken over WA or SA or even Vic? You say its the best game in the world and everybody loves it.. Its certainly not rugby, they are small blips in those states.

 

[LJC]

So you have no answer do you.. there are half a dozen reasons in the preceding posts why League isnt the No1 code around the world, but you STILL maintain the main reason is Rugby keeping it down.

You are a moron... pure and simple.

And which codes in England are WC games "out rating other codes by millions"? Its not Soccer, its not Rugby, its not even Darts... which codes?

And why hasnt League taken over WA or SA or even Vic? You say its the best game in the world and everybody loves it.. Its certainly not rugby, they are small blips in those states.

Do some reading and research you pillock! On the weekend when England played Fiji the RL(2.2million viewers) out rated on the same time and day a RU test match between England & Argentina(541,000), and the EPL(soccer for u pillock! 871,000) .These are real TV ratings figures in England. Knowing your form you won't be able to figure out what the number comparisons are and what they mean!

RL is a very popular and relatively undiscovered sports TV product of which many people watch in preference to other football codes!

You have no idea do you?

I'm sure you are not a RL fan and this is reflected in your comments.

TROLL.