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The Forbidden Game-insightful book on what has & can happen

Te Kaha

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Teh Kaha.

Read the book(The Forbidden Game) you idiot!

Why would I read it again? no one is denying what happened in ww2
... the rest of your lies are another matter entirely.

You do not deserve a response as your form of insults are a reflection of yourself!

You through the first insult you hypocrite.

If you honestly think that the 'Lilly white ' image of RU is above reproach then you "denial" dudes go on your merry way.
Nobody has said that, yet another lie from you.

You should be ashamed to call or regard yourself as RL supporters.
You should be ashamed to call or regard yourself as a human being with your continuous rants about how League people cant be successful.

I am merely showing and others as well, the many examples of repression that has been endured and suffered by RL over the years and still to this day.
there has been very little in the way of evidence. just anecdotes and supposition. if you are ever in trouble with the law DONT defend yourself... you will end up being executed for jay walking.

Would love to see a day when most private schools around the world would offer both RL and RU as the field dimension are the same and the ball is very similar. It's amazing that RL is not widespread in such schools in this day and age!

Listen up moron.. NEITHER code is offered in MOST of the private schools world wide... the fact you cant comprehend that says plenty about you.

Although we have people in high and influential places not allowing RL to be accepted into such areas. A very real example for you 'denial' people. Yet you will somehow discredit this observation.

Name two.. bet you cant because it is yet another lie from you.

RL is a real alternative to RU and RU people in influential positions are doing there level best to limit and stop the existence and growth of the game around the world. In this comment we have a motive and we, as has been shown in the many contributions in this thread, evidence.

WHAT EVIDENCE?

But you 'denial 'people will have nothing of it as I think it really does challenge your 'establishment 'view/comfort zone of world sport. Especially a very outdated form of 'rugby'(RU doing its level best to stop the more attractive and enjoyable form of rugby) in RL.
Your opinion not fact... the REAL reason league is not more widespread is simply down to taste.. not everybody likes it... same for any other sport on the planet.

Simple mathematics will show you that on average any game of RL will have 500 to 600 tackles compared to RU that is lucky to reach 180 tackles. Keeping in mind that each tackle equates to a ball run. If you transfer this math to on ball action then RL wins hands down as a far superior form of rugby.
That's another lie based on an incorrect assumption.

It is by these very figures that RL is prone to be much more entertaining and easier to follow than RU. Please let the real/genuine RL supporters get back on this thread as the bullies are having their cowardly shots at the game and on people whom a re purely informing.

More lies and opinions without fact or merit.

Simple as that. I know you will keep on denying and ridiculing but that's your style not mine!

No.. your style is to make stuff up and outright lie.
 

Knownothing

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Private schools are usually controlled by some kind of board of governors, who are in turn responsive to the wishes of their customers, i.e. parents (and old boys who have a lot of influence, because they often leave bequests to their old schools - have a look at the facilities at The Kings School in Parramatta, for example).

The old boys and the parents apparently prefer a situation where the traditional sports are played. Cricket and rugby are the two traditional sports, like it or not.

I do remember that Riverview offered a rugby league programme a while ago. Sydney University has a rugby league programme. But generally speaking the kids who attend institutions like this tend to come from a rugby union background. Like it or not.


I suppose in a sense it is all the fault of Oxford and Cambridge. Yale and Harvard too. They set a tone for all similar institutions, and they play rugby union.
 

russ13

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LJC

I had the book but gave it away several year ago. On the last page or certainly in the last chapter the author say something about freedom of speech, freedom of assembly etc. These are hard won freedoms that democracy gives to it citizens or something like that.

He then went on to explain that to be able to play your chosen sport is part & parcel of these freedoms.

Could you give me the exact quote? (Rylance puts better than I could.)
 

russ13

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...I suppose in a sense it is all the fault of Oxford and Cambridge. Yale and Harvard too. They set a tone for all similar institutions, and they play rugby union.


Oxford & Cambridge also play rugby league.

http://www.ourlfc.com/

Welcome to OURLFC

Welcome to the online home for Rugby League at Oxford University. As a discretionary full blue sport, 13 Blues and 4 Half-Blues are awarded each year. The club runs two mens teams, The Blues and The Maroons, who play in the BUCS Premier South and West Divisions respectively. For results and match reports please see the Results section.


The Club also runs a team for women called The Warriors, who made their bow in 2010. If you're keen to be involved, the season kicks off in the summer and information can be found here.

Varsity 2013 has now been and gone with the Blues beating Cambridge 32- 4 at the Honourable Artillery Company, for the fourth year in a row. The match report can be found here.
 
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russ13

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Slightly off track - but here is an extract from Henri Garcia's book Chamange Rugby -the French RL story:



1955 Tour 2nd Test Brisbane


With only 14 minutes left Australia couldn’t have been happier at 28 – 16.

As has happened before when humiliation hung over them, the tricolors hit back strongly. Vanel, Audoubert, Montrucolis, Berthomieu, save and Duple threw off the chains that had imprisoned them since the match kicked off. Several mighty hit-ups and the Kangaroo pack looked more drained than one would have expected, given their earlier superiority. Then their followed the most breathtaking finale imaginable.

The crowd were astonished to realize their giants had used up a suicidal amount of energy. Bull, Kearney, Hall, Davies, Holloway and Crocker all of a sudden had lead in their boots, but France still had enough in the tank to mount an attack. 45,000 spectators looked at their watches. Twelve minutes to go and Australia were on the verge of winning the series, but now the French forwards were sweeping all over the pitch. They had nothing to lose, but time was not on their side.

The slippery will-o’-wisp, Jean Dop, counterattacked, sliced through the whole Australian team and with only Churchill to beat, fed Rey who went in under the posts.


Benausse converted to reduce the deficit to 28 – 21. Just seven points with just six minutes left, it seemed impossible. Everything France did posed a threat and drew cries of admiration, though the ‘bobby-soxers’ were squealing anxiously. Six, five, four, thee minutes remained when Dop had another mad moment. Like a escaped lunatic, our ‘Devil’s Brother’ swerved to the left, then to the right, took off towards the touchline, cut down the middle, dummied stopped, the hurtled off again. The decibel count rose as Dop swept right between panic-stricken Australians like a rabbit shooting from its burrow. Thirty yards from the line, he served Merquery who, beating Churchill yet again, scored unter the posts. Benausse converted and France trailed by only two points 28 -26.

The ground was going mad…drained of strength, the Kangaroos gritted their teeth and relied on running down the clock. Just over a minute left! In a desperate effort to free themselves of the French stranglehold that threatened to choke them of the last gasp of air, they put in a massive clearance kick.

Dop turned and collected the ball on his own line. The Kangaroos spread right across the pitch and chased him down. This was the final play, the last chance-saloon. Dop hesitated for a moment then launched himself. The racket was deafening with stands roaring and stamping feet. Dop feinted, then veered away from Davies’s powerful grasp.

“Go little fellow!”

Dop disappeared right into the centre of those juggernauts. He jammed the brakes on. Leaving a high would-be tackler helpless in the dust and, at the very moment the hooter sounded, he passed to Ducasse. It was now or never. Ducasse sprinted all along the touchline and dived over in triumph by the corner flag. The most amazing comeback ever had the ground stunned. France had won 29 – 28.

A tide of humanity invaded the pitch…
 

Knownothing

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The French tours of Australian in the 1950s were sensationally successful.

Just a few short years after the Vichy regime had supposedly destroyed rugby league.
 

magpie4ever

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The French tours of Australian in the 1950s were sensationally successful.

Just a few short years after the Vichy regime had supposedly destroyed rugby league.

Spot On.

Although, the French Rugby Union ensured this would not continue with "under the table" player payments.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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The French tours of Australian in the 1950s were sensationally successful.

Just a few short years after the Vichy regime had supposedly destroyed rugby league.

And you continue to ignore why that was so, you're an idiot, just as much as the other liar in this thread.

And yes, he'll jump in here again because he knows it's the truth, he'll jump on this post straight away and use some silly little name he stole from someone else because he can't think for himself, he'll mention pics and whatnot.

He'll say he's read the book, yet will not post a single thing out of said book.

Magpie4never, you're a knob!
 
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Bronco Rob

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Provide evidence where principals in private schools are denying the game of rugby league being played.

Rugby doesn't count 2nd. 3rd and 4th man in as a tackler. Also union has a competition for the ball after every tackle (maul or ruck), league doesn't.

Again, your post is shown to be shite.

I work in junior development and have been involved with the Mal Meninga Cup and if you think there are no impediments in some schools to play League then you are very delusional or not very savvy with what's going on. I speak to many HPE teachers who have tried to introduce RL programs bit are quickly extinguished by school authorities because they know the backlash. This is despite many of the GPS schools having a lot of their kids playing club RL. And then there are issues with that with mysterious injuries popping up with kids in the 1st 15 that don't allow them to play for their RL club.
 

russ13

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The French tours of Australian in the 1950s were sensationally successful.

Just a few short years after the Vichy regime had supposedly destroyed rugby league.



That statement is inane crap.

RL wasn't recognised, wasn't allowed to be played in the schools, forced to name their game code of13, not allowed to be played in the armed forces etc.

In Vichy France during the war 15,000 or more Jews were rounded sent to concentration camps without the coercion of one German soldier.

Mitterrand who later became President (or whatever its called) was a minor Vichy official during this time.

This "code of silence" or memory lapse aided these cowards to forget or disguise their crimes.

(explained here)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/945279.Verdict_On_Vichy

If anyone was to support RL it would have been from the left. They didn't get it with Mitterrand.


EDIT

What happened to RL is minor or nothing really compared to what happened during the carnage of the war.

& union isn't much more than a niche sport there anyway.
 
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magpie4ever

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I work in junior development and have been involved with the Mal Meninga Cup and if you think there are no impediments in some schools to play League then you are very delusional or not very savvy with what's going on. I speak to many HPE teachers who have tried to introduce RL programs bit are quickly extinguished by school authorities because they know the backlash. This is despite many of the GPS schools having a lot of their kids playing club RL. And then there are issues with that with mysterious injuries popping up with kids in the 1st 15 that don't allow them to play for their RL club.

I'm not saying that private schools don't have certain sports they prefer. GPS schools obviously push Rugby Union; but, stop and recognize that diocese Catholic schools (private schools) prefer and, in the majority, only support Rugby League. The number of private Catholic schools far out number private GPS schools. That is my point, LJC makes a ridiculous and outlandish statement and he expects intelligent people to believe it.

When, I fronted him with these facts before; he stated he was talking about overseas private schools - when I asked to name the said country and schools he went to ground and refuse to answer.
 
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magpie4ever

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And you continue to ignore why that was so, you're an idiot, just as much as the other liar in this thread.

And yes, he'll jump in here again because he knows it's the truth, he'll jump on this post straight away and use some silly little name he stole from someone else because he can't think for himself, he'll mention pics and whatnot.

He'll say he's read the book, yet will not post a single thing out of said book.

Magpie4never, you're a knob!

At least I have one, you sir are a goose (not a gander - you dickless worm of a thing, no brains, no knowledge).
 

Te Kaha

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And you continue to ignore why that was so, you're an idiot, just as much as the other liar in this thread.

And yes, he'll jump in here again because he knows it's the truth, he'll jump on this post straight away and use some silly little name he stole from someone else because he can't think for himself, he'll mention pics and whatnot.

He'll say he's read the book, yet will not post a single thing out of said book.

Magpie4never, you're a knob!


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it really annoys you that name... thanks.
 
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Knownothing

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That statement is inane crap.

RL wasn't recognised, wasn't allowed to be played in the schools, forced to name their game code of13, not allowed to be played in the armed forces etc.

In Vichy France during the war 15,000 or more Jews were rounded sent to concentration camps without the coercion of one German soldier.

Mitterrand who later became President (or whatever its called) was a minor Vichy official during this time.

This "code of silence" or memory lapse aided these cowards to forget or disguise their crimes.

(explained here)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/945279.Verdict_On_Vichy

If anyone was to support RL it would have been from the left. They didn't get it with Mitterrand.


EDIT

What happened to RL is minor or nothing really compared to what happened during the carnage of the war.

& union isn't much more than a niche sport there anyway.

I repeat what I said. The French rugby league tours of Australia during the 1950s were sensationally successful. What is "insane crap" about stating that? It is the pure unvarnished truth.

And at the 1954 World Cup, France beat both Australia and New Zealand. So during the first half of the 1950s rugby league in France was, apparently, pretty strong.

I understand very well, probably better than you, the full extent of Nazi brutality in and before the Second World War. (Try reading "Suite Francaise", by Irene Nemirovsky, for example: the suffering of the common people in France after the invasion was absolutely terrible).

However, it just seems to me worth pointing out that continual repetition of the undoubted wrongs of the Vichy regime can look like a partial excuse for what went wrong in the post-war years. Again, the fact that rugby league in France was capable of producing world beating players and teams well after the end of the war is worth remembering. What else went wrong?
 
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ParraEelsNRL

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At least I have one, you sir are a goose (not a gander - you dickless worm of a thing, no brains, no knowledge).

When you eventually find a rl club you feel attached to that isn't DEAD and you find out that you do like the game, come back, until then troll, f**k off!

Planet punt n grunt is calling.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it really annoys you that name... thanks.

Makes me laugh that you are too stupid to come up with your own.

Hey, tell us all how these union 7's players are the shiiiiit :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

ParraEelsNRL

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I repeat what I said. The French rugby league tours of Australia during the 1950s were sensationally successful. What is "insane crap" about stating that? It is the pure unvarnished truth.

And at the 1954 World Cup, France beat both Australia and New Zealand. So during the first half of the 1950s rugby league in France was, apparently, pretty strong.

I understand very well, probably better than you, the full extent of Nazi brutality in and before the Second World War. (Try reading "Suite Francaise", by Irene Nemirovsky, for example: the suffering of the common people in France after the invasion was absolutely terrible).

However, it just seems to me worth pointing out that continual repetition of the undoubted wrongs of the Vichy regime can look like a partial excuse for what went wrong in the post-war years. Again, the fact that rugby league in France was capable of producing world beating players and teams well after the end of the war is worth remembering. What else went wrong?

You said in this thread you never read the book, so stfu and stop trying to tell others what You think happened.

f**king idiot!
 

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