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You came for me in my dream, last night.:lol::lol::lol:
Shhhh don't tell everyone :x
You came for me in my dream, last night.:lol::lol::lol:
Shhhh don't tell everyone :x
You came for me in my dream, last night.:lol::lol::lol:
In your backside or mouth?
However, it just seems to me worth pointing out that continual repetition of the undoubted wrongs of the Vichy regime can look like a partial excuse for what went wrong in the post-war years. Again, the fact that rugby league in France was capable of producing world beating players and teams well after the end of the war is worth remembering. What else went wrong?
As you pointed out, yes the French DID have a strong team playing in the 1950's
After the war ended, the players themselves carried on playing Rugby League. However, that crop of players got older and finally retired.
What the war had done was tip the balance in favour of the Union teams to such an extent that the CLUBS themselves couldn't recover.
The loss of stadiums, training facilities, bank accounts etc just meant they were starting from scratch with no money in a Country crippled by post war Austerity.
From the 1970's onwards as Leagues influence shrank, the French Union team grew in popularity. The funding from Government was all tilted towards Union and the League clubs couldn't recover.
As you pointed out, yes the French DID have a strong team playing in the 1950's
After the war ended, the players themselves carried on playing Rugby League. However, that crop of players got older and finally retired.
What the war had done was tip the balance in favour of the Union teams to such an extent that the CLUBS themselves couldn't recover.
The loss of stadiums, training facilities, bank accounts etc just meant they were starting from scratch with no money in a Country crippled by post war Austerity.
From the 1970's onwards as Leagues influence shrank, the French Union team grew in popularity. The funding from Government was all tilted towards Union and the League clubs couldn't recover.
While you are correct about school instructors in France, i must point out that there has never been RL instructors or RL games played in French schools at an officially recognised or accepted level, yet the French RL of the mid 30's and throught the 50's to the early 60's flourished.Yes. Something else was imposed.
To this day no one can be educated as a sports instructor in rugby league in France. No school access for RL is a decent obstacle!
In fact I believe if their is one major obstacle for RL it is getting universal or decent access into most school systems around the world. In Australia(NSW & QLD) decent access has been achieved and the game is a major sport but such schools access is not the norm elsewhere.
That is the main issue for RL progress - access into school systems around the world. RU has such access worldwide whereas RL has not!
While you are correct about school instructors in France, i must point out that there has never been RL instructors or RL games played in French schools at an officially recognised or accepted level, yet the French RL of the mid 30's and throught the 50's to the early 60's flourished.
The schools issue is one issue but by no means is it as serious one as you are making out. Most kids in Australia play soccer at school, but barely any become professional players.
The game of RL needs to be accessible outside schools. Grassroots footy.
Something Australia, England & New Zealand don't spend anywhere near enough money & time on. Yet another example of the poor administration running the game.
RL in private schools will not have the huge effect you think it might.Access to schools systems is a very handy advantage used by many sports, particularly RU. I agree that RL administration has been lacking but targeting school systems is a very effective way of getting the game of RL known to the youth of the world.
I think you will note that RL has a decent presence in school systems within NSW and QLD and subsequently this flows onto the greater community. Yes their are factors like TV coverage and other domestic competitions .
Having RL played in various school systems around the world would be of great benefit for the code.
After all, one would figure that such exposure and presence would open the eyes of many young people to a game that is far and away much more attractive in both play and viewing than other forms of rugby.
Access to the education system is very important.
Just ask RU administrators!
In fact this sports instructor comment on the French scenario was made by English journalist Hugh Schofield in his very apt article called "French rugby league fights for rights." He mentions, " Even today the sport is still marginalized." (8th Oct 2002)
PS: Within the Australian context:I have just graduated as a teacher and am fully aware that my level 1 RL coaching certificate will not be useful when approaching most private schools for work.
RL in private schools will not have the huge effect you think it might.
Let me put it this way, do you think RU has grown/improved/become more successful in the last 20 years?
In my opinion the answer is a resounding no, especially in comparison with RL.
This to me shows that RU doesn't have that great of an advantage over RL, especially regarding kids.
Lets be honest, how much RU would you see on the tv compared to RL in a year?
What RL lost via private schools they made up for (and then some) via tv/media.
i think while your point is valid, in todays world, its almost irrelevant.
I think the point is, x students of these GPS/CAS schools wield a hell of a lot of influence around the big end of town,out of proportion to total school numbers.This is changing to a degree.
IMO all schools should offer students all the major football codes,as part of the sporting curriculum.Having to play union for 6 years,was like regularly visiting the dentist for root canal therapy.
Aussies have given the code a "go".
And schools systems such as the Catholic system have enabled this to happen. This access does not occur elsewhere in the world.
Worldwide, you will note RU have its presence in most schools compared to RL.
This is a very significant obstacle in the uptake of RL and its acceptance around the world.
Once this school access is improved, the benefits will flow through. Until such access, RL will continue its uphill battle to have a presence on a world wide scale.
I think a point is being missed here in that most schools offer both RU and RL as a sporting option to play whereas most private schools do not offer RL.
Totally agree. The big end of town influence is massive on a world wide scale. RL is a market driven code and is perfect for the mass TV market. I hope we all agree that it is actually a far better product and this is why it has decent dominance and presence in NSW & QLD and other parts of Australia.
Aussies have given the code a "go".
And schools systems such as the Catholic system have enabled this to happen. This access does not occur elsewhere in the world.
Worldwide, you will note RU have its presence in most schools compared to RL. This is a very significant obstacle in the uptake of RL and its acceptance around the world.
Once this school access is improved, the benefits will flow through. Until such access, RL will continue its uphill battle to have a presence on a world wide scale.
I think a point is being missed here in that most schools offer both RU and RL as a sporting option to play whereas most private schools do not offer RL. My public school offered both RL and RU. Mind you I had to sign a special declaration to play RU which I found odd at the time and mentioned this to my Dad that night. He questioned me "What kind of a sport makes you do that?"
I know that at the two Catholic Schools that I went to Rugby League was the dominant football code played