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The Joint Venture Is Broken

alien

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Wests' family feud not all black and white

Roy Masters
January 24, 2012




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"I know I speak for a great many others in saying I believe the club belongs to the members; the Ashfield leagues board clearly hold a very different view" ... incumbent Magpies chairman Paul Dillon. Photo: Phil Carrick

The feuding families in the West(s) Side Story will hold rival meetings tonight, with incumbent Magpies chairman Paul Dillon asking ASIC to intervene in a move by the Western Suburbs League Club at Ashfield to appoint four directors to the football club at Campbelltown.
Former Wests player Mick Liubinskas is expected to be elected chairman of the new board at a meeting at Ashfield, while Dillon has called a meeting at Parramatta. Dillon believes the move by Ashfield - the traditional funders of the Magpies - is unconstitutional, and has asked the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, or the NSW Rugby League, to rule on whether he can be replaced.
It is understood the remainder of the Magpies board will attend the Ashfield meeting and appoint Liubinskas, who has the backing of former Wests players.
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The restoration of funding by Ashfield, and a softening of some of its demands, are expected to resolve the feud.
The licensed club cut off monetary support when it believed Dillon was not acting in the interests of Wests Tigers, the NRL club in which the Wests family has a half-stake with Balmain.
The most emotive issue was a plan to merge the two NSW Cup teams run by Wests and Balmain into a single side, to be known as Wests Tigers, and wear the strips of the two foundation clubs on alternate weeks.
Wests supporters argued a single NSW Cup team would create a bottleneck, leaving Campbelltown-based players unwanted by the NRL club with nowhere to play.
The Magpies discovered they had a unexpected ally in their protest, with Balmain stalwarts also opposed to the move.
Balmain diehards, somewhat presumptuously, believed the single team would be called Balmain and wear black and gold exclusively, a perception Wests supporters already have of the Wests Tigers.
The new Magpies board is expected to commit to the wide range of views from supporters in its old and new areas, particularly Campbelltown fans who have called a protest rally. A Save Our Clubs march will start at Campbelltown City Council chambers at 10am on February 5 and proceed down Queen Street to Western Suburbs League Club Campbelltown, where a petition will be presented to the club and the Wests junior league.
Protesters point out the region still has the same number of teams and players as 25 years ago, despite the population trebling.
They argue this neglect is manifested in the region receiving only four Wests Tigers games a year and their junior representative players being forced to train at Concord, the inner-west base of Wests Tigers.
It is expected Liubinskas's board will position itself to respond to these challenges, particularly considering the incoming independent commission might introduce a new structure to provide additional competition opportunities for the Magpies district club in this huge growth corridor in Sydney's south-west.
It is also expected the new board will provide cost-effective, state-of-the-art football and administrative support in the name of the Magpies, rather than Wests Tigers, all the way down to the junior levels, to block the drain of, arguably, the best talent in Australia, to other NRL clubs.
Dillon confirmed in an email that he would be holding a rival meeting, saying: ''As with the referral to ASIC, this is all part of duty of care and other responsibilities of being a director of a company.
''At stake in all of this is the ownership of the WSDRLFC - The Magpies. I know I speak for a great many others in saying I believe the club belongs to the members; the Ashfield leagues board clearly hold a very different view. The AGM is due in a few weeks and the issue(s) rightfully should be put to the members for a vote at such a meeting.''
Whatever the outcome, there is a growing confidence that Wests will continue to survive the carve-ups, the relocations, the joint venture and the protests.
''There's life in the old bird yet,'' one stalwart said.


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...k-and-white-20120123-1qdz7.html#ixzz1kIGcM8iv
 

Tiger05

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Seriously this really sounds bad. It comes across even worse than what I have been stating. It comes across that we now have the old Maggie Morons trying to take over the JV.
 

Ghipo

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not campbelltown race track. WT HQ could have been made next to or part of wests leagues club with the campbelltown wests tigers gearzone supporters shop all part of it (i hear they are moving to macarthur square). wests leagues is next to campbelltown stadium so they could have trained there. then you wouldnt have to hear people complain about our juniors and nsw cup players travelling too far.

maybe this will happen in the future.

camp campbelltown > camp concord

Alien I normally support you but Balmain juniors being forced to travel to Campbelltown. Now Now that is just so so unfair. Lets just trial it for 10 years see how it goes.
 

alien

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Alien I normally support you but Balmain juniors being forced to travel to Campbelltown. Now Now that is just so so unfair. Lets just trial it for 10 years see how it goes.
balmain dont have as many juniors. why are we looking after the minority instead of the majority. why is wests tigers focusing on being an inner west club when most of our juniors and future is in south west sydney
 

Tiger05

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and how could they possibly do that

Like I said before this is really bad. What we have is some morons in the Wests side of the JV who have personal problems in that they are little sooks and expect the best deal in everything.

As you have stated you expect training to be completed where it suits you (Campbelltown) and for more games to be at Campbelltown compared to Balmain. This attitude although childish and immature is one that is being propagated by several members of the Wests side of the JV. I have no doubt that there are not a lot of them they are acting like little spoilt children however these little brats are making a lot of noise and doing their best to bring the JV down.

As I said earlier the rational fair supporters who comprise the vast majority need to stand up to these morons. This to me is pretty disgusting. Spoilt brats with no point whatsoever that have to get there own way and have no interest in the Wests Tigers, the Wests Magpies or the Balmain Tigers. All they are interested in is causing trouble.
 

hybrid_tiger

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The training thing is really trivial. Of course they should train where the NRL team trains, which is Concord.

FFS, it takes me over an hour to get to work every morning, what's the difference for these guys? Trivial, nothing issue.
 

BuffaloRules

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Balmain diehards, somewhat presumptuously, believed the single team would be called Balmain and wear black and gold exclusively, a perception Wests supporters already have of the Wests Tigers.

Love this point...

I wonder if Masters could provide some examples of these "Balmain diehards"??

Masters is a rambling flea who now lives in Melbourne.. I cant believe he still has a gig in a Sydney newspaper commenting about Rugby League...
 

BuffaloRules

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believed the single team would be called Balmain and wear black and gold exclusively, a perception Wests supporters already have of the Wests Tigers.

Also, do any Wests supporters think that the Wests Tigers "wear black and gold exclusively"?
 

Tiger05

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Guys - these so called supporters who from now on should be called the Magpie Morons have absolutely no idea.

Yes - of course they should train with the first grade squad.
Yes - the kids would love to train with the first grade squad.
Yes - the best spot to train is at Concord Oval.
Yes - the Magpie Morons are causing disruptions to the team being as professional as possible.
Yes - the Magpie Morons are trying to negatively impact the kids who want to get the chance to train with first graders and push their careers.
No - the Magpie Morons do not give a flying f**k about anyone but themselves.
 

gallagher

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Also, do any Wests supporters think that the Wests Tigers "wear black and gold exclusively"?
Not this little duck. The only problen I have is the colour of the 'orange' we use atm.
Its funny that former magpies Leeds,Georgalis,Mescia and Skandalis have had jobs with the club. Some might say the magpies side is being favoured.
 

N.C.

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I can understand that if you've never been east of Bexley Road you might easily mistake Moore Park for Rozelle... But seriously...
 

alien

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roosters is not one of the teams that is closer & u know it. however, if the roosters do build a leagues club in narellan which runs a rugby league club in group 6 (i dont know if that would be allowed) then i guess they could persuade some of our juniors to go to the roosters, especially that they have alot of funds
 

Bluebag

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Guys - these so called supporters who from now on should be called the Magpie Morons have absolutely no idea.

Yes - of course they should train with the first grade squad.
Yes - the kids would love to train with the first grade squad.
Yes - the best spot to train is at Concord Oval.
Yes - the Magpie Morons are causing disruptions to the team being as professional as possible.
Yes - the Magpie Morons are trying to negatively impact the kids who want to get the chance to train with first graders and push their careers.
No - the Magpie Morons do not give a flying f**k about anyone but themselves.

The kids do not train with first grade and in fact have little contact with them.
Concord is not near transport and even with a car traffic is a nightmare.
The biggest issue with WT not only withdrawing support of players but also takin the magpies equipment which was theirs and not even strapping or Gatorade. It is a shame the the are will be a nice market for AFL and yes they are out there as I work out there and do school visits and they are always there.
 

unforgiven

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I dont post on here very often but there is some absolute garbage in this thread. I really dont know where some fo you guys got this idea that Wests were being unfairly treated. I still can not see any Balmain bias in decisions the club has made. The Magpies have a 50% representation on the board. They are responsible for these decisions.

The total mismangement of the campbelltown region is the issue here. The region has been missed managed from the time the Magpies moved down there. The magpies board has always been incompetent, even your club legends are saying this. There is no benefit to having 2 state cup teams, none. The state cup team should be called the Wests Tigers, Wests Magpies have a strong representation in that name. Wests make up 50% of the name, They have their precious little magpie on the sleave, no Balmain by the way.

Now they want the combined State cup team to be called the Wests Magpies. Ill do you a deal, Lets call it Balmain Magpies. But alas you guys wont go for that as its not 100% your way.

I for one am glad that you will be no longer supporting the Wests Tigers, Alien, Atleast you wont have to examine every little thing the club does to ensure that the magpies are being treated fairly. We can all move on without you. Goodbye
 

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