The LJC\Stallion Thread

[Te Kaha]

Lol. Seeing as you're doing such a good job , can you amend the thread name to Repression of rugby league: examples & discussion.?

No.. it is an accurate title.

 

[batley]

I see you have stopped with your claims about the stadiums now that you realise how wrong you are.

Instead referencing a newspaper that went out of circulation almost 3 decades ago.

I know i'm

I see you have stopped with your claims about the stadiums now that you realise how wrong you are.

Instead referencing a newspaper that went out of circulation almost 3 decades ago.

The only reason I stopped in regard to the stadiums was because I was correct. Plus the fact it's impossible to discus things with someone who is as thick as a brickwall

 

[Stallion]

So I call league Rugby or sometimes league I use them both pretty interchangeably.
I call union, union never Rugby. Am I a bigot? There’s no equality I can’t stand union and I come from a fairly anti union area and family.

Are you going to answer my question about association football?

As you already know I'm aware of local nuances and cultural significant naming like yourself. In Newcastle NSW ASSOCIATION football is usually called soccer. Rugby league is mostly called footy. Rugby union used to be always called union. Aust rules football is nowadays mostly called AFL. In the past decade union has tried to usurp 'rugby' as its own and has even tried to capture the 'footy' term like AFL has tried. The addressing of a code is important, and in the context of a rugby league website, surely 'rugby league" at least deserves to be called rugby league or 'footy' as that is what most contributors would be familiar with and accept. It's clear the term 'league ' is a second/derogatory choice term and is really disrespectful in the context of this being a rugby league site. Appropriate naming for the appropriate context. That's what is being discussed here. Hope you see the point.

 

[Te Kaha]

I know i'm
The only reason I stopped in regard to the stadiums was because I was correct. Plus the fact it's impossible to discus things with someone who is as thick as a brickwall

Rubbish you were. You didn't know about the agreement between the CRL and CRU. You didn't know about the Upgrade in Wellington. Things that are common knowledge to people who actually do follow League in NZ.

 

[Pommy]

As you already know I'm aware of local nuances and cultural significant naming like yourself. In Newcastle NSW ASSOCIATION football is usually called soccer. Rugby league is mostly called footy. Rugby union used to be always called union. Aust rules football is nowadays mostly called AFL. In the past decade union has tried to usurp 'rugby' as its own and has even tried to capture the 'footy' term like AFL has tried. The addressing of a code is important, and in the context of a rugby league website, surely 'rugby league" at least deserves to be called rugby league or 'footy' as that is what most contributors would be familiar with and accept. It's clear the term 'league ' is a second/derogatory choice term and is really disrespectful in the context of this being a rugby league site. Appropriate naming for the appropriate context. That's what is being discussed here. Hope you see the point.

What does it matter what a load of tragics call it on a league site?

 

[Stallion]

No.. it is an accurate title.

You are the LIAR Te Haka. Not me! Another NZ based contributor is questioning some of the 'information' you have provided on the NZ stadium scenario. Who are we to believe? Someone who doesn't respond to real examples of rugby league being repressed and calls the code disparigingly 'league' or a guy who's been passively viewing this discourse and has found enough of your falsehoods to actually provide genuine comment and information. I believe the guy that's been watching the thread discourse and has finally responded in the name of accuracy and fairness.

 

[Stallion]

Rubbish you were. You didn't know about the agreement between the CRL and CRU. You didn't know about the Upgrade in Wellington. Things that are common knowledge to people who actually do follow League in NZ.

Seriously Te Haka. Let's get it right . You are not a supporter of rugby league. You are a impediment to the code. Your type is assisting in rugby union's aim of holding rugby league back. Let's be clear on that.

 

[Stallion]

What does it matter what a load of tragics call it on a league site?

It matters a great deal. If you don't even address the code you purport to follow in a respectfull and dignified manner(within its own website!) then its(the code) already subconsciously seen as 2nd rate. That's unnacceptable!

 

[Pommy]

It matters a great deal. If you don't even address the code you purport to follow in a respectfull and dignified manner(within its own website!) then its(the code) already subconsciously seen as 2nd rate. That's unnacceptable!

How much meth have you had today?

 

[Stallion]

How much meth have you had today?

Ok so if you aren't addressed property in a public place and called "dickhead" instead of "Pommy" or whatever you should be referred to as. Im certain you would not like it! This is simlar in showing respect for the code of rugby league in a public forum! In fact moreso on a rugby league website! I note that News Ltd whom has questionable influence and associations with rugby league do not call the rugby league channel FOX RUGBYLEAGUE. This in itself is concering and ultimately disrespectful to the code. Coincidentally this company has had a big part in dismantling rugby league in Australia as far back as the pre superleague war days. (This company financially backed the breakaway competition which was leading to no good for the most popular domestic rugby(both codes)competition in the world). They have their fingerprints all over the minimising and constraining of this great code in rugby league! Its big picture stuff but matters big time. The name is very important for universal acceptance of this fantastic football code.

 

[Stallion]

No.. it is an accurate title.

No it's not accurate. You are very irresponsible abd unfair for a moderator on a rugby league website. I've mentioned the stuuf you are doing to other sports mates of mine and they shake theur head in disbelief at your behaviour in the position you hold as a 'moderator '.

 

[Pommy]

Ok so if you aren't addressed property in a public place and called "dickhead" instead of "Pommy" or whatever you should be referred to as. Im certain you would not like it! This is simlar in showing respect for the code of rugby league in a public forum! In fact moreso on a rugby league website! I note that News Ltd whom has questionable influence and associations with rugby league do not call the rugby league channel FOX RUGBYLEAGUE. This in itself is concering and ultimately disrespectful to the code. Coincidentally this company has had a big part in dismantling rugby league in Australia as far back as the pre superleague war days. (This company financially backed the breakaway competition which was leading to no good for the most popular domestic rugby(both codes)competition in the world). They have their fingerprints all over the minimising and constraining of this great code in rugby league! Its big picture stuff but matters big time. The name is very important for universal acceptance of this fantastic football code.

You have already said you understand due to cultural/regional variations the sport is not called rugby league universally. Calling it by the colloquial name is not showing it disrespect. I have lived in the 2 biggest rugby league heartlands and I very rarely hear the game called by it’s full name, why should it be any different online?
You don’t get anybody calling football, association football and it’s the biggest sport in the world.

 

[Stallion]

You have already said you understand due to cultural/regional variations the sport is not called rugby league universally. Calling it by the colloquial name is not showing it disrespect. I have lived in the 2 biggest rugby league heartlands and I very rarely hear the game called by it’s full name, why should it be any different online?
You don’t get anybody calling football, association football and it’s the biggest sport in the world.

No I did not state that. Their exists cultural references everywhere. However if as a sport we are not going to respect the actual name of this code it will send a message of confusion and lack of credibility . It's ok for sports not fighting for their existence like soccer and union. They have establishment backing. With a code such as union doing its best to limit/stop rugby league ,it's a different kettle of fish! It's not like for like in this instance. It's rugby union seeking universal acceptance of the name 'rugby' when they absolutely know their is another (more worthy code in my books) rugby league in existence. It's very significant and important. In fact rugby union are using naming as one of their tacts in detrimentally affecting rugby league's recognition in international.sports bodies. These union dudes are very highly educated/powerful and will use all devices to inhibit rugby league's progress/existence. This should be clearly understood and factored into such a discourse.

 

[Stallion]

You have already said you understand due to cultural/regional variations the sport is not called rugby league universally. Calling it by the colloquial name is not showing it disrespect. I have lived in the 2 biggest rugby league heartlands and I very rarely hear the game called by it’s full name, why should it be any different online?
You don’t get anybody calling football, association football and it’s the biggest sport in the world.

And 'on line' is very much a different medium to local conversation. It's on a far greater public domain. The universal acceptance of a sport hinges on its name and on a rugby league website whereby 'league' is clearly a derogative term then this should not occur. The bigots on a rugby union website can go for broke and call rugby league all.sorts of names I suspect. The point is if we don't show the comensurate respect in addressing the code we purport to support on a rugby league website then their is loss of dignity, credibility and increased vulnerability for the code in future discourse. The medium is the important factor in this regard. Hope you can see this.

 

[Pommy]

No I did not state that. Their exists cultural references everywhere. However if as a sport we are not going to respect the actual name of this code it will send a message of confusion and lack of credibility . It's ok for sports not fighting for their existence like soccer and union. They have establishment backing. With a code such as union doing its best to limit/stop rugby league ,it's a different kettle of fish! It's not like for like in this instance. It's rugby union seeking universal acceptance of the name 'rugby' when they absolutely know their is another (more worthy code in my books) rugby league in existence. It's very significant and important. In fact rugby union are using naming as one of their tacts in detrimentally affecting rugby league's recognition in international.sports bodies. These union dudes are very highly educated/powerful and will use all devices to inhibit rugby league's progress/existence. This should be clearly understood and factored into such a discourse.

Bigot!!!!!! You have to use the name equally and fairly.

Do you understand what joined up thinking is?

 

[Pommy]

And 'on line' is very much a different medium to local conversation. It's on a far greater public domain. The universal acceptance of a sport hinges on its name and on a rugby league website whereby 'league' is clearly a derogative term then this should not occur. The bigots on a rugby union website can go for broke and call rugby league all.sorts of names I suspect. The point is if we don't show the comensurate respect in addressing the code we purport to support on a rugby league website then their is loss of dignity, credibility and increased vulnerability for the code in future discourse. The medium is the important factor in this regard. Hope you can see this.

Fine that’s what you think but almost everyone else seems to disagree, how many people on this forum are using the term rugby league in normal posting?

 

[Stallion]

Fine that’s what you think but almost everyone else seems to disagree, how many people on this forum are using the term rugby league in normal posting?

Bit out reach from you Pommy. For someone whom communicates in brail! Alot of people have commented in my favour on this site. I would know of maybe 7 or 8 (you uncluded) on this site that are not supportive but in the main I've been well supported. Plenty of 'likes" and I make sense mostly unless I've typed in a wrong letter in a word.

 

[Pommy]

Bit out reach from you Pommy. For someone whom communicates in brail! Alot of people have commented in my favour on this site. I would know of maybe 7 or 8 (you uncluded) on this site that are not supportive but in the main I've been well supported. Plenty of 'likes" and I make sense mostly unless I've typed in a wrong letter in a word.

Again avoiding the point, how many people on this site call the sport by its actual name?
Not even you are doing so, you have decided to not include the football in rugby league football.

 

[Stallion]

Fine that’s what you think but almost everyone else seems to disagree, how many people on this forum are using the term rugby league in normal posting?

RL , footy has been used. And the non genuine ignorant ones have used 'league'. As soon as I see that description I know the contributer is not true and respectful RL advocate. When I see "rugby" I do reason when referred to as Rugby league I work out that the writer is from Northern England. (Which is fine) The position of a moderator on a rugby league website shoukd entail some protocol and the irreverent labelling of rugby league as 'league' is not appropriate on such a site! However if discussing rugby in general using both league and union is appropriate. But when one gets exclusively called 'rugby' then that in most discourses on a rugby league site is not appropriate.(vice versa applies) And that's what's happening with a moderator of all people on this RL site!

 

[Stallion]

Again avoiding the point, how many people on this site call the sport by its actual name?
Not even you are doing so, you have decided to not include the football in rugby league football.

One is derogative 'league' and others are not so. Only in direct discourse including both rugby versions is it reasonable. That is using league and union to differentiate. Not using the term 'rugby' for one and 'league ' for the other. Especially on a RL website.