The Pride thread 🌈

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Unsurprising given they are the majority. And if you're talking about relative numbers then it also makes sense, since heterosexual perverts have greater access to children than LGBTQ+ perverts. But that is one very small category of crime you are now talking about, with your source being very biased.

Given the primary data is virtually nonexistent (when do they record the sexual orientation of merkins convicted of crime?) I would say whatever supporting data you present is badly corrupted by the type of junk science used to push political agendas. Pretty much anything in the .org domain is bullshit.

You’ve criticised my proposed methodology before even receiving it.

Thats just ridiculous.

As is your unsupported malicious proposition that more gays have mental health issues issues ergo they are more likely to commit crimes. Where is your evidence buster?

1 in 77 people are convicted criminals.

(boscar)

over 4 in 100 people identify as gay.

What percentage of the population is gay? (The number is higher than you think!)

What percentage of the world population is gay and do you know how many gay Australians there are? Here are the LGBTQ statistics you need to know.

www.nowtolove.com.au

Do the maths.

The kiddy fiddler study was current and government sanctioned. It’s official and formal.

The hard evidence is that hetero people are far more likely to molest children than gays. That’s not in issue, not up for debate

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This is so bad in logic and bad in fact, I’m not even going to try.

The logic is fine. You are just stumped.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Its an invented concept that isnt grounded in biology.

I'm also happy to play along but find the whole thing ridiculous and weird that someone can make up their gender and then get funny with someone who doesn't want to play along.

As someone who prides themselves on smugly dismissing poorly elucidated ideas I'm surprised you don't accept that another person might decide the whole thing is bullshit.

It's like being dragged into their kink. Leave it in the bedroom ffs. I don't want to be involved.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

@the phantom menace, I was willing to give people the benefit, but the tone and arguments used, they seem to support your broad assessment.

The personal abuse you seemed to have received doesn’t help either.

It’s my belief, you’ve had the better of your critics.

 

[the phantom menace]

I reply to everyone who spouts their unconsidered opinions as fact. If you weren't such a narcissist you'd realise that.

Yes, I usually skim over your "contributions" to the forum, unless they're replying to posts I've made (and hence in my notifications to clear) so totally unaware.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Particularly leagueunlimited.org

It's up there with leagueunlimited.ru

 

[Gary Gutful]

@the phantom menace, I was willing to give people the benefit, but the tone and arguments used, they seem to support your broad assessment.

The personal abuse you seemed to have received doesn’t help either.

You’ve had the better of your critics.

Siding with a three times banned notorious shit stirrer?

I think I worked out how you ended up supporting the Tigers…

#PoorJudgement

 

[hindy111]

This debate is getting boring.
I worked today and also got 2 x bottles of free milk. And some cream. I've been drinking black tea for weeks and it's annoying so now I get milk in my tea again which I am happy about.
I can't bring myself to buy milk when I know if I visit this factory it's free.

 

[hindy111]

Should I share a personal story involving me in Kings cross and a women I met and a bottle of Amil nitrate?

 

[hindy111]

I was about 30 yld and drinking at kings Cross hotel. Having a great time. Then this weird girl started talking to me. A real odd bot and strange looking. Invites me to her place so I figured I may as well go. Then told me to sniff this bottle and next thing I was flat on my back and she fingers my anus.
I completely forgot about this event until today and reading this thread.
Strange experience

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You’ve criticised my proposed methodology before even receiving it.

You're claiming you have reliable figures on the sexual orientation of criminals. Utter bullshit. I've been charged before and nobody asked about my sexuality. Does it only occur when it gets to court? Or when there's a conviction?

Thats just ridiculous.

It is. You've swallowed the politicisation of social science without question, to the point where you've given such bullshit sources as stoptheabuse.org and nowtolove.com.au as reliable sources. How f**king embarassing. And now you expect me to play along, as though it's some kind of academic debate? You are incapable of being rational on this.

As is your unsupported malicious proposition that more gays have mental health issues issues ergo they are more likely to commit crimes. Where is your evidence buster?

It's no more malicious than your claim that heterosexuals are more likely to commit crime. I'll concede it's possible but how could we possibly know? BeCaUsE sCiEnCe?!?

1 in 77 people are convicted criminals.

(boscar)

over 4 in 100 people identify as gay.

What percentage of the population is gay? (The number is higher than you think!)

What percentage of the world population is gay and do you know how many gay Australians there are? Here are the LGBTQ statistics you need to know.

www.nowtolove.com.au

Do the maths.

The f**k merkin. John Venn would be rolling in his grave.

The kiddy fiddler study was current and government sanctioned. It’s official and formal.

The hard evidence is that hetero people are far more likely to molest children than gays. That’s not in issue, not up for debate

Like I said, there are significantly more heterosexuals, so of course they (as a group) are more likely to do anything, good or bad. Silly me assumed you were talking about the likelihood of any given individual committing crime.

 

[hindy111]

You're claiming you have reliable figures on the sexual orientation of criminals. Utter bullshit. I've been charged before and nobody asked about my sexuality. Does it only occur when it gets to court? Or when there's a conviction?

It is. You've swallowed the politicisation of social science without question, to the point where you've given such bullshit sources as stoptheabuse.org and nowtolove.com.au as reliable sources. How f**king embarassing. And now you expect me to play along, as though it's some kind of academic debate? You are incapable of being rational on this.

It's no more malicious than your claim that heterosexuals are more likely to commit crime. I'll concede it's possible but how could we possibly know? BeCaUsE sCiEnCe?!?

The f**k merkin. John Venn would be rolling in his grave.

Like I said, there are significantly more heterosexuals, so of course they (as a group) are more likely to do anything, good or bad. Silly me assumed you were talking about the likelihood of any given individual committing crime.

What did you get charged for? I've been in a paddy wagon once as well. Well twice actually.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

@the phantom menace, I was willing to give people the benefit, but the tone and arguments used, they seem to support your broad assessment.

The personal abuse you seemed to have received doesn’t help either.

It’s my belief, you’ve had the better of your critics.

Ah yes here we go. It's the brave vs the bigots. Take it to DMs ffs.

 

[the phantom menace]

Two points though:

1. Just because someone gets offended it doesn’t mean that what was said was offensive. Many people are easily triggered.

True. Some people here have been easily triggered by discussion of Mardi Gras and World Pride and related things.

2. It’s also entirely true that there are many instances where people get offended on behalf of someone else but unnecessarily so because the intended recipient is not offended.

Sometimes yes. Many, I'm not so sure. Some ideas have proven offensive (in the modern world) themselves, without needing to be offended on behalf of someone.

By all means, we should challenge any overt homophobic views. But equally, it’s not a simple issue and not every utterance on the topic that misaligns with someone else’s views is an example of homophobia.

I would rather challenge the substance of the statement first, but sadly calling someone a ‘homophobe’ is an easy go to for many people who’d be better off thinking before applying that label.

Examples of homophobia are (should be) pretty clear. Conversely, not every view stated with a prefix "I'm not a homophobe but..." is necessarily not homophobic either. Agree the statement should be challenged first, but when the dumb pricks don't realise their biases / check their privilege given the chance, then to me some labelling is not uncalled for.

 

[IFR33K]

I was about 30 yld and drinking at kings Cross hotel. Having a great time. Then this weird girl started talking to me. A real odd bot and strange looking. Invites me to her place so I figured I may as well go. Then told me to sniff this bottle and next thing I was flat on my back and she fingers my anus.
I completely forgot about this event until today and reading this thread.
Strange experience

watch out mate, u used weird and strange to describe a girl. U may upset the sensitive posse

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Should I share a personal story involving me in Kings cross and a women I met and a bottle of Amil nitrate?

This is the pride thread ffs. If she wasn't a transwoman we don't want to hear about it.

 

[the phantom menace]

Now you're just showing your lack of understanding. I never said the word causation here, I said correlation. And if you think that means correlation is meaningless then it explains why you think I'm the dumbest merkin on here. You sad peanut.

That was the point genius... you're attempting (badly) to make a correlation between three things, and then challenging people to disprove you, and then claiming it as proof of something else.

And then doubling down in later replies - you must be either bored or triggered to be doing your own politicisation of social science (lol) before accusing others of doing that... haven't sen you trolling this hard for ages.

 

[Gary Gutful]

John Venn would be rolling in his grave.

…and possibly third of someone else’s.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well mate, 'the Christians' is in the same category of useless (other than for pushing agendas) generalisation as 'the Jews'.

No worries champ, the category of that term was implied by the nature of the linked story, and the inherent disunity.

Why tolerate things you think are harmful? Why respect things you think don't deserve respect? Merkins might be wrong about whether something is actually harmful but that isn't the point. Risk averse people want proof that there is no risk, they aren't going to wait and see. And you yourself have shown you aren't respectful of them, so why should they be any different?

So you're advocacting the crime that was committed (covering a property's chosen artwork with grey paint, and recorded hate speech), just because some intolerant bigot had to see the scary rainbow colours...?

I don't think that world view holds up to much scrutiny. And again you're trolling hard by attempting (and failing) to equate two unequal things to support your chosen point for the day.

 

[the phantom menace]

It's like being dragged into their kink. Leave it in the bedroom ffs. I don't want to be involved.

Gender is not sexual, or bedroom-related.