The Pride thread 🌈

[the phantom menace]

Ah yes here we go. It's the brave vs the bigots. Take it to DMs ffs.

Point to where the scary rainbow colours touched you...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What did you get charged for? I've been in a paddy wagon once as well. Well twice actually.

I committed the crime of sodomy on New Years Eve 1993, in Hobart. I got off on a plea deal though, when I informed on my co-accused.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

True. Some people here have been easily triggered by discussion of Mardi Gras and World Pride and related things.

I certainly have.

 

[hindy111]

This is the pride thread ffs. If she wasn't a transwoman we don't want to hear about it.

She was kind of going bald.

 

[hindy111]

I committed the crime of sodomy on New Years Eve 1993, in Hobart. I got off on a plea deal though, when I informed on my co-accused.

I just didn't pull over. I drove for 15mins cause I forgot my licence and pretended I didn't noticed them. merkins where pissed off

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That was the point genius... you're attempting (badly) to make a correlation between three things

No, there is literally a correlation. There's no attempt involved.

and then challenging people to disprove you, and then claiming it as proof of something else.

How do you get that? It's as simple as A correlates with B, and B correlates with C. Ergo, A correlates with C. It is pure logic, and causation need not come into it. In fact causation (when applied to human behaviour) quickly moves away from science and into philosophy, law and politics.

For example, we don't know why men earn more than women but are also more likely to be homeless, or imprisoned, or have poor mental or physical health. But these correlations are fact, regardless of anyone's (highly political) opinions on the causes.

And then doubling down in later replies - you must be either bored or triggered to be doing your own politicisation of social science (lol) before accusing others of doing that... haven't sen you trolling this hard for ages.

Well you're compelled to call out bigotry, I am likewise compelled to call out idiocy when I see it. I feel it's far more dangerous when vindictive dopes think the facts support their shit ideas, than when other merkins just have unpleasant opinions.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So you're advocacting the crime that was committed (covering a property's chosen artwork with grey paint, and recorded hate speech), just because some intolerant bigot had to see the scary rainbow colours...?

Who's advocating? I think it's shit that merkins defaced the artwork at the church. I don't know why you'd assume I was in favour other than that you are narrow-minded and judgemental. You have a shallow, surface-level understanding of anyone who disagrees with you, because putting them in the STUPID/EVIL box makes you feel better about your own inadequacies.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Gender is not sexual, or bedroom-related.

Without sexuality there is no purpose to gender. Literally zero.

 

[the phantom menace]

No, there is literally a correlation. There's no attempt involved.

A meaningless correlation only by implication of two other correlations.

How do you get that? It's as simple as A correlates with B, and B correlates with C. Ergo, A correlates with C. It is pure logic, and causation need not come into it. In fact causation (when applied to human behaviour) quickly moves away from science and into philosophy, law and politics.

The ergo correlation itself is therefore meaningless, but I agree that any further attempts to draw anything from such a correlation moves quickly away from science and into agendas.

Well you're compelled to call out bigotry, I am likewise compelled to call out idiocy when I see it. I feel it's far more dangerous when vindictive dopes think the facts support their shit ideas, than when other merkins just have unpleasant opinions.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

She was kind of going bald.

Would you say her baldness occurred in a clinically male pattern?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A meaningless correlation only by implication of two other correlations.

The ergo correlation itself is therefore meaningless, but I agree that any further attempts to draw anything from such a correlation moves quickly away from science and into agendas.

Well I wasn't the one who claimed that heterosexuals are probably more likely to commit crimes. I at least gave evidence why that might not be the case, while conceding it could be true. Regardless of lack of evidence.

 

[the phantom menace]

Who's advocating? I think it's shit that merkins defaced the artwork at the church. I don't know why you'd assume I was in favour other than that you are narrow-minded and judgemental.

Because your reply to which side of the (internal christian) argument in th elinked article/event was the more tolerant one was literally "Why tolerate things you think are harmful? Why respect things you think don't deserve respect?"

If that doesn't indicate support for less tolerant side's actions in throwing grey paint, then I don't know what your waffle in response was attempting to indicate. Stop flip-flopping and say what you actually believe or mean, merkin!

 

[the phantom menace]

Without sexuality there is no purpose to gender. Literally zero.

I disagree. Gender as a concept can pick up where someone doesn't feel/identify as the biological box they've been living in based on their genitals, and allow that person some control over their life, perhaps for the first time.

A person's gender is different to a person's sexual persuasion... perhaps that's a bit complex (or triggering for some to understand.

 

[the phantom menace]

Would you say her baldness occurred in a clinically male pattern?

Would you say it mattered? And if so, why?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Because your reply to which side of the (internal christian) argument in th elinked article/event was the more tolerant one was literally "Why tolerate things you think are harmful? Why respect things you think don't deserve respect?"

If that doesn't indicate support for less tolerant side's actions in throwing grey paint, then I don't know what your waffle in response was attempting to indicate. Stop flip-flopping and say what you actually believe or mean, merkin!

No it's just indicating I disagree that respect and tolerance are somehow superior virtues. Plenty of evil can be done in the name of respect and tolerance. The abundance of either doesn't imply a superior moral position.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Would you say it mattered? And if so, why?

f**k off merkin. hindyeleven is sharing a story and I need more details to get off.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I disagree. Gender as a concept can pick up where someone doesn't feel/identify as the biological box they've been living in based on their genitals, and allow that person some control over their life, perhaps for the first time.

A person's gender is different to a person's sexual persuasion... perhaps that's a bit complex (or triggering for some to understand.

Sure, but without sexuality what is the point of gender? Why is a woman any different to a man otherwise? As if there's some essentialist quality of men/women that transcends their sex organs. It's a fairy story that doesn't hold up to the facts, yet suddenly your rational judgement goes out the f**king window.

 

[the phantom menace]

No it's just indicating I disagree that respect and tolerance are somehow superior virtues. Plenty of evil can be done in the name of respect and tolerance. The abundance of either doesn't imply a superior moral position.

Wow. Ok, that provides some context...

What types of evil exactly do you think can be done through the virtues of respect and tolerance?

And do you then believe that the "answer" is a lack of respect and tolerance (which again would provide some context to all of your reactive ranting on here)?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes, I usually skim over your "contributions" to the forum, unless they're replying to posts I've made (and hence in my notifications to clear) so totally unaware.

Do you really? Yet a significant number of reactions to my posts are from you, when they aren't replies to your posts. You try far too hard to pretend you don't care. You'd be less cringe if you were at least honest.

 

[the phantom menace]

Sure, but without sexuality what is the point of gender? Why is a woman any different to a man otherwise? As if there's some essentialist quality of men/women that transcends their sex organs. It's a fairy story that doesn't hold up to the facts, yet suddenly your rational judgement goes out the f**king window.

Again gender does not equal (insert the maths symbol here) genetics or biology.

Are you blissfully unaware of how the sexes are societally constructed and influenced etc? Back to some sociology 101 for you.