What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

The Pride thread 🌈

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
62,867
*Edit*

Little did the cops know, (and neither did I) that one of my mates had a small plastic bag of the green stuff in his pocket.
We got to Moore Park, smoked a few joints under a Mortan Bay Fig beside Kippax Lake and giggled like school girls for a couple of hours before we then joined the queue.
Lucky they didn't bring the sniffer dogs with them that night. :)

My one and only ever time in my life I partook in illicit drugs.
Yes, I am a straighty 180.

I can't say why I ended up in a wagon the 2nd time. It is quite a story but
 

Gary Gutful

Post Whore
Messages
52,964
Yes, I'm happy to accept that. Here's soem meaning to the term if you or others are still searching for it: "Gender is part of a person's social and personal identity. It refers to each person's deeply felt internal and individual identity, and the way a person presents and is recognised within the community." (Source: https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-pr...ernment-guidelines-recognition-sex-and-gender)
Thats a waffly meaningless definition. Interesting also that you didnt bold the red bit. Isn't that what I've been talking about FFS! How are people supposed to recognise this stuff if it isn't intrinsically linked with biology? Do you not see that obvious logic flaw.

After the original post and my reply, which I've also replied to.
It was before your reply.

I'll agree your example 2 has consequences. But the others I think are cases of (dare I say it) moral panic?
I'm not panicking. I said it wasn't the biggest issue in world. I think there are legitimate consequences. Happy for you to consider them very low risks. I'd call them medium and worthy of discussion.

Yeah, respecting accidental bigotry and its harms isn't really part of my philosophy.

Still waiting for people to tell me where those scary rainbow colours touched them... because it's pretty obvious over the decades where the lack of respect and tolerance around gender and sexual diversity touches people that might be experiencing or effected by that.
You can keep trying to suggest that people raising legitimate points and trying to have a sensible conversation are intolerant or scared but it just makes you look like a dick.

I find it ironic that you are trying to school people on what tolerance is. Maybe you can come up with a better definition of that than your gender one.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
62,867
I think its a little funny women in Ukraine are picking up machine guns to defend their country but we are fighting about rainbows and gay people marching.
 
Messages
11,786
Thats a waffly meaningless definition. Interesting also that you didnt bold the red bit. Isn't that what I've been talking about FFS! How are people supposed to recognise this stuff if it isn't intrinsically linked with biology? Do you not see that obvious logic flaw.
Bolding was as per the website. I'm very willing to recognise people's experiences, and if more people in the community were less uptight, then there wouldn't be this fixation with the historical biology of sexes - or any logic flaw in appreciating gender.
It was before your reply.
Doesn't mean it was seen while in the act of typing a reply to the previous post. Oh look, while typing this one a green bar appears saying messages have been posted since I last loaded the page (but doesn't automatically show it...).
I'm not panicking. I said it wasn't the biggest issue in world. I think there are legitimate consequences. Happy for you to consider them very low risks. I'd call them medium and worthy of discussion.
I'd call them pissy (less than very low), and fodder for simple-minded pearl clutchers, but by now I think you get my drift on how Pride in any of this stuff is ok.
You can keep trying to suggest that people raising legitimate points and trying to have a sensible conversation are intolerant or scared but it just makes you look like a dick.

I find it ironic that you are trying to school people on what tolerance is. Maybe you can come up with a better definition of that than your gender one.
As said previously, I'm not trying to convert anyone, or "school" anyone on tolerance. I am intolerant of (even acidental) bigotry regarding race, sex, and gender, and sexual orientation. Through in disability too.

If you want definitions for gender or anything else, go and google your own. Otherwise you're coming across as triggered and reactionary as Pou does.
 
Messages
17,120
Its just a discussion but a sign that we are lucky to live with the freedoms that we do.

That’s bullshit.

The croc would have been better off under the Ruskies.

A3E358A4-77F1-4A8B-8617-9B11320DF151.jpeg

and pous idea of freedom is to tell you that you are wrong before even listening to you.

You didn’t study politics did you Gary?
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
62,867
Its just a discussion but a sign that we are lucky to live with the freedoms that we do.

Very lucky. Many people love to feel important or to have a purpose. Feel like they stand for something and made a difference. To be able to just be is the key. Born with nothing die with nothing. Dust to dust.
Well as I've told everyone before but they think I am a loon you end up being dissolved by the mycelium network anyhows and feeding the trees. We are all one. All connected. Just enjoy the ride. That's all it is.

Why merkins are so serious.
 
Messages
17,120
Wow i haven't seen a hiding like this since Rodney King, Guts has given Bart Phantom Menace ally guy an absolute caning. But he keeps coming back for more respect.

On the contrary, Menace finished Gary off at about 7pm.

The rest was the Menace just with his hands in Gary’s mouth trying to pull out his Gold teeth.

Gary and Pou think when girls are born they take a liking to Barbie toys, can cook, want to play netball and they like the colour pink. Lol.
 

hineyrulz

Post Whore
Messages
153,688
On the contrary, Menace finished Gary off at about 7pm.

The rest was the Menace just with his hands in Gary’s mouth trying to pull out his Gold teeth.

Gary and Pou think when girls are born they take a liking to Barbie toys, can cook and they like the colour pink. Lol.
Yeah nah!! Bart has copped an absolute rogering in here today.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
62,867
On the contrary, Menace finished Gary off at about 7pm.

The rest was the Menace just with his hands in Gary’s mouth trying to pull out his Gold teeth.

Gary and Pou think when girls are born they take a liking to Barbie toys and the colour pink. Lol.

I played with barbie dolls with my sister and cousins. I reckon nobody cared then. I also played with cars.
People would most likely make a big deal about it nowdays if I boy played with Barbies.
 
Messages
17,120
I played with barbie dolls with my sister and cousins. I reckon nobody cared then. I also played with cars.
People would most likely make a big deal about it nowdays if I boy played with Barbies.

Some people would freak if the boy played with cars!

I propose an experiment;

Maybe a study of 100 boys and 100 girls aged 1 yr 6 months

Place a Tonka truck 5 ft to the left and barbie 5 ft to the right of the kid.

See which toy the rugrat naturally crawls towards.

If it’s all mixed up, Menace wins and young Gary can change the shitty nappies.
 

Gary Gutful

Post Whore
Messages
52,964
Bolding was as per the website. I'm very willing to recognise people's experiences, and if more people in the community were less uptight, then there wouldn't be this fixation with the historical biology of sexes - or any logic flaw in appreciating gender.
I'm empathic to people's experiences as well. I don't think anyone on here isn't....except for El Diablo.

I'm happy to accept your explanation when it comes to interactions with people close to us. But it falls over when it comes to encountering people you've never met before which happens on a daily basis.

If gender isn't defined by biology then in that situation it is impossible to know how someone "is recognised in the community" without taking a guess based on their apparent biology.

If a man wears a dress and looks like a female or a female is trying to look like a man then you've probably got a good chance of getting it right. But if we deviate from that and make it something more cerebral and less defined then I think its uneccesarily confusing. There is already alot of space to play within the spectrum of butch male ----> feminine woman. Anything beyond that seems self-indulgent for mine. It's also retrogressive and creates division where it isn't needed.

Doesn't mean it was seen while in the act of typing a reply to the previous post. Oh look, while typing this one a green bar appears saying messages have been posted since I last loaded the page (but doesn't automatically show it...).
Just lift your f**ken game FFS.

I'd call them pissy (less than very low), and fodder for simple-minded pearl clutchers, but by now I think you get my drift on how Pride in any of this stuff is ok.
I think thats a naive and reactionary comment, but I'm happy to agree to disagree with you on this.

As said previously, I'm not trying to convert anyone, or "school" anyone on tolerance. I am intolerant of (even acidental) bigotry regarding race, sex, and gender, and sexual orientation. Through in disability too.

If you want definitions for gender or anything else, go and google your own. Otherwise you're coming across as triggered and reactionary as Pou does.
If you are going to have a discussion about what gender means then you should have a least thought it through and be able to describe what you think it is rather than just parrot some flawed definition with more holes in it than Hindy111's Spider Man undies.

All words have broad meanings and all concepts have paramaters in which they can be defined. Your copied definition of gender is unlike any other defined word in the english language.

What I'm gathering is that gender = whatever the f**k anyone wants it to be if it makes them feel good about themselves and anyone who disagrees is supposedly intolerant.

You've goosed yourself on this one and your reaction to being found out as having

+ No foundation behind your thinking; and
+ No clarity or understanding of what gender actually means.

Has resulted in you being triggered and you are now lashing out.

I award you an A for effort, but sadly an F for delivery. You are lucky though because I still love you.
 

Latest posts

Top