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I assume that it is the NRL calling it yes, but then the NRL are falsely advertising that a season ticket to the Parramatta Eels is membership aren't they? Surley the Fitzy should step in and right this wrong shouldn't he? he is the CEO isn't he?
 

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It is only the NRL that is calling it a membership yes?

No. All the below that I opened are marketed as memberships. Probably more as I didn't open them all.

Broncos - http://www.broncos.com.au/index.php?page_id=3449

Bulldogs - http://www.bulldogs.com.au/membership/brochure/

Canberra - http://emarket-secure.com/raiders/order/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=3

Souths - http://www.rabbitohs.com.au/Membership/Season-2009.html

Warriors - https://join.warriors.co.nz/
 
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I assume that it is the NRL calling it yes, but then the NRL are falsely advertising that a season ticket to the Parramatta Eels is membership aren't they? Surley the Fitzy should step in and right this wrong shouldn't he? he is the CEO isn't he?

But Surely it is the NRL that are falesly adverstising not the Club.
 
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No, apparantly 10 other clubs do as well, but hey, we're Parra.

Suity


Sorry Guys I was referring to what the NRL call Parramatta's offering. It is only the NRL calling Parramatta's offering a membership, indirectly.
 

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But Surely it is the NRL that are falesly adverstising not the Club.

It is considering the club refuses to offer membership as part of the package.
Mate, we are talking semantics here.
The fact is, Parra seem to fall way behind many other clubs when it comes to packages and benefits offered - hence why I thought your original idea to put a report to them regarding this was inspired.

Suity
 

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But Surely it is the NRL that are falesly adverstising not the Club.

and shouldn't our club be concerned about that?


fmd MITS - its one thing to play devils advocate, but fmd please admit that our club is doing some confusing sh*t in all this and stop arguing for the f'n sake of it :crazy:
 

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and shouldn't our club be concerned about that?


fmd MITS - its one thing to play devils advocate, but fmd please admit that our club is doing some confusing sh*t in all this and stop arguing for the f'n sake of it :crazy:

Seriously, MITS would be a shoe in for a Club Promotions Liason Officer. :lol:
He sprouts more propaganda than the Soviets during the Cold War. :lol:

Suity
 
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But Surely it is the NRL that are falesly adverstising not the Club.
Yes, but when the NRL came to parra and asked for membership details or a link to the membership website is this what Parra gave them.?

I know MITS you love the club and are friendly with directors on the board etc but sometimes mate you just have to take off the rose coloured glasses and admit that there is a lot wrong with the process that involves membership and marketing in our club.
 
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Seriously, MITS would be a shoe in for a Club Promotions Liason Officer. :lol:
He sprouts more propaganda than the Soviets during the Cold War. :lol:

Suity

It walks, talks and looks like a duck but that is where the similarities end.....
 
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It is considering the club refuses to offer membership as part of the package.
Mate, we are talking semantics here.
The fact is, Parra seem to fall way behind many other clubs when it comes to packages and benefits offered - hence why I thought your original idea to put a report to them regarding this was inspired.

Suity

The Report was for the extra circular benefits of season ticket holders / blue and gold army, in relation to player / supporter relations. I do not recall in the report if there was any comparison made on "Membership" off a football club at any time.

My analysis of the data was that on the merchandise and physical offerings and Match attendance offerings we were quite competitive with other Sydney clubs. For the extras (Open training, Stadium Tours, post match functions, So on and So forth) we lagged behind sadly, and that was what we had to fix.

This also included other types of supporters clubs that offered a different range of merchandise and event offerings. (Shopping Trips for a Female based club and the like).

Not once did we mention the need for STH's or B&G army members to be members of the PDRLC.

I highly doubt we would gain massive amounts of people joining our club if they got the vote. Or even if it was an option, because of the general apathy of the Parramatta fans.
 

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The Report was for the extra circular benefits of season ticket holders / blue and gold army, in relation to player / supporter relations. I do not recall in the report if there was any comparison made on "Membership" off a football club at any time.

My analysis of the data was that on the merchandise and physical offerings and Match attendance offerings we were quite competitive with other Sydney clubs. For the extras (Open training, Stadium Tours, post match functions, So on and So forth) we lagged behind sadly, and that was what we had to fix.

This also included other types of supporters clubs that offered a different range of merchandise and event offerings. (Shopping Trips for a Female based club and the like).


Not once did we mention the need for STH's or B&G army members to be members of the PDRLC.

I highly doubt we would gain massive amounts of people joining our club if they got the vote. Or even if it was an option, because of the general apathy of the Parramatta fans.

I'm going to take a phrase and emoticon out of Hellsy's book.

...........whatever. :roll:

Defend the club and your boardroom mates as much as you like MITS. The fact is........

and shouldn't our club be concerned about that?


fmd MITS - its one thing to play devils advocate, but fmd please admit that our club is doing some confusing sh*t in all this and stop arguing for the f'n sake of it :crazy:

Yes, but when the NRL came to parra and asked for membership details or a link to the membership website is this what Parra gave them.?

I know MITS you love the club and are friendly with directors on the board etc but sometimes mate you just have to take off the rose coloured glasses and admit that there is a lot wrong with the process that involves membership and marketing in our club.


Suity
 
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I'm going to take a phrase and emoticon out of Hellsy's book.

...........whatever. :roll:

Defend the club and your boardroom mates as much as you like MITS. The fact is........

Suity

Sorry Suity but all of those comments are a complete cop out.

We all know the club is confusing. What you all don't know is why, I have tried to explain it, but you want the club back the way it was. Okay then I suggest you vote for Robert Forsmbee in the election as he wants the same thing.
 

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"I highly doubt we would gain massive amounts of people joining our club if they got the vote. Or even if it was an option, because of the general apathy of the Parramatta fans. "__________________

ANd they have to live local to exercise that vote in practise
 
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Sorry Suity but all of those comments are a complete cop out.

We all know the club is confusing. What you all don't know is why, I have tried to explain it, but you want the club back the way it was. Okay then I suggest you vote for Robert Forsmbee in the election as he wants the same thing.

Those comments aren't a cop out - that is offensive to the opinions of those who made them.
Understand, that's the way people feel. If the club and board can't get a grip on that, they'll go down.

Furthermore, you haven't tried to explain it. All you do is try and defend it.

Suity
 

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After reading all this and believing parra have an agenda,by the way they run membership and thier constitution..i really thinks its so wrong to have to be a member for 3 years before u can vote, actually its bullsh*t...i have worked in the club industry and played footy in a few,and anyone who joins a club can (and every 1 i have been involved with does) and should be able to vote for board positions the moment they join.Thats how it should be,fitzy runs it like this so he feels safe and cant be beaten..thats the clubs fault for letting him dictate to them.
 

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After reading all this and believing parra have an agenda,by the way they run membership and thier constitution..i really thinks its so wrong to have to be a member for 3 years before u can vote, actually its bullsh*t...i have worked in the club industry and played footy in a few,and anyone who joins a club can (and every 1 i have been involved with does) and should be able to vote for board positions the moment they join.Thats how it should be,fitzy runs it like this so he feels safe and cant be beaten..thats the clubs fault for letting him dictate to them.

Another opinion MITS of the way people feel, or as you put it - a cop out.

Instead of trying to defend the club as you do, suggest to them that they get on here and read these threads before the election.
On the other hand, maybe it's too late to change the opinions of some.

Suity
 
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The club has moved the NRL license to the Leagues Club, hence creating a New Company PNRLC.

PNRLC was created at a time of change in the National First grade competition, around 1999 or 2000.

The Football club was at that time a board that held a 5 - 2 leagues club director vs Football Club director split.

Those 2 directors started asking for more money than the leagues club directors (for want of a better term, i.e. those that were members of each board). believed to be required for the continued operation of the PDRLC in the NRL competition as well as all other competitions.

The recent collapse of the Bears and the poor state of players contracts also caused issues with player retention and a general nervous feeling among players in the NRL competition.

The Parramatta club was also starting to worry about the amount of grant being given as it would start to attract a tax in NSW. Being as the Parramatta DRLC was one of the most heavily subsidized clubs in the NRL. If the amounts continued to increase its grants could be taxed, meaning an extra amount of money would need to be found to pay the government to allow the club to make the transfer. Every dollar after the limit would also include a tax meaning the PDRLC might not be able to react well to sudden increased needs for funding (Super League still fresh in everyones mind).

Parramatta's 5 Leagues club directors the moved to have the NRL transferred to the Parramatta Leagues club in the understanding that the Leagues Club would create a separate company to run the Club. This would mean all funding requirements were guaranteed which appealed to players. Ensured the NRL side and the football club were singing off the same Hymn sheet in regards to requirements and reduced the amount of possible tax the club was exposed to.

At the Parramatta DRLC AGM many questions were raised about this. There was a loud and vocal group that Represented the 2 non leagues club aligned directors, who were from the NPT (New Parramatta Team). Before the Election of directors (which takes placed before the Notice of motions). Tony Zappia, removed himself from the Ballot after discovering he had been placed on the NPT's how to vote ticket, without his permission. Coach Brian Smith, and Fullback Clinton Schifcofske spoke about the stability having a guaranteed contract would have for Parramatta in the player market.

The Members voted, Ovo asked if a show of hands or actual election was required. A show of hands was tried and a majority voted for the motion so no ballot casting was required.

From that time on the PNRLC was created and the PDRLC only dealt with Reserve Grade/ Premier League, Jersey Flegg, SG Ball and Harold Matthews.

The provision is that to play for the PNRLC you must be a member of the PDRLC, and abide by the terms laid out as a member of the PDRLC (can't play for anyone else and the like).

So the side effects are, The NRL club has only 7 members, they are the current directors. The PDRLC does not control the NRL club directly as it is a leagues club asset. PNRLC does all season tickets as it is the main show at the stadium, it then asks the PDRLC to help "fill the card" as it were, in regards to who plays.

You buy your Season ticket from the PNRLC, as well as Blue and Gold Army Membership.

In 2000 or 2001, the PDRLC year book came out, sans the NRL club photos, reports and stats due to the PDRLC not being in control of the side, members were outraged and asked that such information be allowed back into the report, so as to continue to accurately document the activities of the Parramatta Eels in all grades they compete in, from 2001 or 2002 this was re-added.
 
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