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The search for a new coach

Abdullah

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He only have 2 games, abdul.

He another ballhead too...:cool:

...yes, correct ozbash...ballhead and useless...but maybe Mateo want to have players say to coach - "coach ballhead, we bit tired for training today, maybe we can relax and go play x-box" - ballhead iro: " yes boys, can i come and play too?"
 

Rich102

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Signs point to a combination of veteran coach Matt Elliott and rookie David Kidwell at the Warriors next season.
Elliott - the former Bradford, Canberra and Penrith coach - appears a natural fit for the general manager position. At the beginning of the recruitment process the club stipulated it would pursue a figure with considerable NRL experience.
Elliott, sacked by Penrith to make way for Ivan Cleary, is believed to have impressed during the extensive interview process the club has performed in Sydney over recent weeks.
An assistant to Craig Bellamy at the Storm, Kidwell has the advantage of having been immersed in the highly regarded Storm system as both a coach and player.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nrl/news/article.cfm?c_id=270&objectid=10836986
 

Diesel

Referee
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If this is the way they want to go I'd prefer Sheens as Director and Morgan as coach. If the Melbourne set up is so great then what has happened to other assistant coaches from there?
 

hitro

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Matt Elliot would be such an underwhelming appointment. Surely this is not going to happen? Please God
 

SilentOne

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So we lose Cleary who replaces a sacked Matt Elliot and in a round about way he turns up here?

The warriors can go get f**ked if that's the case, anything less than Bellamy and I'll be pissed off.
 

Rich102

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If this is the way they want to go I'd prefer Sheens as Director and Morgan as coach. If the Melbourne set up is so great then what has happened to other assistant coaches from there?

Apparently Morgan has withdrawn. Shame, I thought he may do well.
 
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So we lose Cleary who replaces a sacked Matt Elliot and in a round about way he turns up here?

The warriors can go get f**ked if that's the case, anything less than Bellamy and I'll be pissed off.

Pretty bloody obvious that Bellamy was the clubs #1 pick.... but that doesnt mean we can make him come here if he doesnt want to and why would he? Easier ride in Melbourne, a club that will throw cash at him and a shorter commute to his family in Sydney. If you believe the media then they've also made some astute decisions in being selective on who they interview i.e. deciding that Brian Smith was totally out of the question.

If Kidwell & Elliot (which I still dont believe would happen) are the two best options available then so be it - even though they certainly wouldnt be my preference. I would feel a lot more comfortable with Kidwell if someone of the ilk of Anderson or Folkes was to take up a coaching director position.

Hold off on the lynch mob until we know all the facts.
 

Meth

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I'm over speculation.

I don't care until there is an announcement. Then I'll celebrate or whinge.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I'm over speculation.

I don't care until there is an announcement. Then I'll celebrate or whinge.

Been this way for quite some time now. Everyone bar Jack Gibson, and probably Jack himself, have been linked, probable, possible, pulled out, unwanted etc as far as this job is concerned.
 

Iafeta

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I'm over speculation.

I don't care until there is an announcement. Then I'll celebrate or whinge.

Agreed. Though I must say I would be aghast if Matt Elliott found his way to Auckland. Dude is a nuffy.
 

Micistm

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I'm over speculation.

I don't care until there is an announcement. Then I'll celebrate or whinge.

Yeah, down with that. But the announcement had better be something worth waiting for. The Club has made a complete mess on and off the field this year...I'm still interested in this 'extensive review'...or is that where everyone sits in one room and all blame Bluey to save their own miserable skins?
Lost a lot of respect for this Club right through to a good chunk of the players. They are going to need a ton of good news and good results to get it back
 

ozbash

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Yeah, down with that. But the announcement had better be something worth waiting for. The Club has made a complete mess on and off the field this year...I'm still interested in this 'extensive review'...or is that where everyone sits in one room and all blame Bluey to save their own miserable skins?
Lost a lot of respect for this Club right through to a good chunk of the players. They are going to need a ton of good news and good results to get it back

I think they are still digging the hole, this Eden Park rubbish is doing huge damage..
 

Iafeta

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Maybe in a slightly perverse way the combination may be successful???? As in, David Kidwell has been through the Storm system, has also coached Souths to an NYC Grand Final, and has coached the Junior Kiwis successfully... he always struck me as a leader. I think his short fall is obviously experience. Elliott's been around for 20 odd years since his time at Bradford. He did a pretty reasonable job bringing that club to the top of Super League. Perhaps in a weird way him acting as a mentor to a young bloke like Kidwell would work.

Cons, well, there's a heap of them. Kidwell has no NRL experience. Elliott does, but his record is fairly ordinary at best, (well thats being kind, its straight out diabolical). In a strange way, we'll be picking up the dude who was sacked and replaced by our best coach, which seems to be a poor decision. Another big con is that they said they wanted the best and would do anything for it. What this has inevitably proved is that even stragglers like Sheens who have been sacked don't want to come here. Thats a pretty sad state of affairs. You can extend that onto players. The value of an experienced and proven coach is wanting to come and work with them. Who really wants to work for Elliott? I suppose though, aside from Bellamy and Bennett, the experienced coaches in the NRL struggle to get their teams up for the big prize. Hasler was pretty good from the get-go. Flanagan was a far better bet at Cronulla than Stuart. Maybe Kidwell's inexperience in that sense plays into his favour. Perhaps he has a culture and a structure that fits the organisation well...

Frankly, all I want out of it is a hard nut who is going to flog this mob in the off season, cut out the off field nonsense, tell it how it is, select who deserves to be selected, and doesn't buy into the last two years of we'll let 6 blokes go, and replace them with 2 blokes from NYC type strategy. In key positions we still need good old fashioned Australian experience and skill. Make sure we have enough specialist, full time coaches. Not do favours for mates. We need a full timer who knows how to coach defence, thats not necessarily the bloke who was great at defence himself. The fact we were exposed badly through the same plays in the centres speaks volumes about how poor that structure worked. Time for the Warriors to get hardcore, and bring back the mongrel to Auckland. Hopefully if Kidwell's selected he's the man to provide that. Given his hit on Willie Mason, I have some hope that he is.
 

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