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The search for a new coach

Iafeta

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Oh, and as much as the coaching paradigm is important... I've heard we have very poor gym facilities. Front up with the cash Owen and Eric, if you want the best, you have to give these blokes the chance to be prepared the best. And it needs to be implemented ASAP... not 12 months down the track. Its needed.. NOW. Not only does our roster need it, but future prospects look at things like that... if they don't see an environment that they can get better, then the players we attract are likely to be those that no one else wants. To get the best, we need to be the best in every single way.
 

Skinner

Coach
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Oh, and as much as the coaching paradigm is important... I've heard we have very poor gym facilities. Front up with the cash Owen and Eric, if you want the best, you have to give these blokes the chance to be prepared the best. And it needs to be implemented ASAP... not 12 months down the track. Its needed.. NOW. Not only does our roster need it, but future prospects look at things like that... if they don't see an environment that they can get better, then the players we attract are likely to be those that no one else wants. To get the best, we need to be the best in every single way.

Absolutely, and just to put some perspective on this :

THE Bulldogs football club borrowed $1 million from Canterbury Leagues Club to meet Des Hasler's list of demands upon his arrival at Belmore in the off-season.

After negotiating a contract worth an estimated $750,000 a season - well above what he initially sought to stay at Manly - Hasler demanded the club spend heavily on training facilities.


Canterbury Leagues Club was asked to loan the football club "around $1 million", according to chief executive Todd Greenberg, to meet Hasler's demands.


Hasler had a lecture theatre installed and end-on cameras at the training ground so he could tape and review every training session.


He also wanted an altitude training centre - but this could not be met in the budget - along with an "aquatic centre".


However, he agreed with Greenberg that any prizemoney won would go towards the altitude training centre, which is now in construction after the Bulldogs earned $100,000 prizemoney for winning the minor premiership.


While the aquatic centre has been pushed back to "stage two or three" of the Hasler grand plan, according to Greenberg, plunge pools and ice baths were installed.


"Before Des we were a part-time GPS club," Greenberg said.


"Some players wore it, some players didn't.


"Now it's like putting your boots on. They wear it for every minute they're here because Des likes to track every movement they do."


The Bulldogs knew Hasler would not come cheaply when they began negotiating before last year's finals series.


However, they were swayed to continue pursuing the coach by Greenberg at a board meeting.


"Don't worry if you can afford to do it," he told them. "Worry if you can afford not to do it."


While life is nothing but lemonade for the Bulldogs, it is lemons for the Sea Eagles who crashed out of the finals the week before the grand final and face a drop in revenue after failing to fully capitalise on their premierships successes.


For just an extra $100,000, Hasler was prepared to stay at Manly, but the Sea Eagles did not believe he was worth it.


Now, Hasler's defection to Canterbury has resulted in a $1 million windfall for the Bulldogs which means he has already paid his way - as the club now stands on the verge of its first premiership title in eight years.


Regardless of the result tomorrow, the Bulldogs have projected a positive forecast for next year.


The club's 2013 jersey, already fully sponsored, will be in stores by Christmas.


Crowd attendance has risen by nearly 3000 a game and is expected to climb steeply next season, sponsorship and merchandise sales are also up and receipts this week alone almost enough to cover Hasler's final pricetag.
While Hasler's input has been widely acknowledged, less credit has gone towards the Canterbury board who have cleverly invested in the club's infrastructure.


The Bulldogs received a $9 million government grant to upgrade Belmore Sports Ground and chose to use it towards establishing a world class training centre instead of trying to make Belmore suitable to host NRL games.


Other sides, such as St George Illawarra and Cronulla, poured their government grants into the upgrading of existing grandstands.


"Russell Crowe spent $100,000 on [Souths'] own dressing room at ANZ Stadium; we put that into our training venue where we spend 365 days a year," Greenberg said.


The benefits are obvious. The Bulldogs have adopted the model used in the AFL and the NFL in the US, playing out of big multi-purpose venues while using their suburban home as a training facility.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...pon-joining-club/story-e6frexnr-1226483768642
 

Mike0070

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Maybe in a slightly perverse way the combination may be successful???? As in, David Kidwell has been through the Storm system, has also coached Souths to an NYC Grand Final, and has coached the Junior Kiwis successfully... he always struck me as a leader. I think his short fall is obviously experience. Elliott's been around for 20 odd years since his time at Bradford. He did a pretty reasonable job bringing that club to the top of Super League. Perhaps in a weird way him acting as a mentor to a young bloke like Kidwell would work.

Cons, well, there's a heap of them. Kidwell has no NRL experience. Elliott does, but his record is fairly ordinary at best, (well thats being kind, its straight out diabolical). In a strange way, we'll be picking up the dude who was sacked and replaced by our best coach, which seems to be a poor decision. Another big con is that they said they wanted the best and would do anything for it. What this has inevitably proved is that even stragglers like Sheens who have been sacked don't want to come here. Thats a pretty sad state of affairs. You can extend that onto players. The value of an experienced and proven coach is wanting to come and work with them. Who really wants to work for Elliott? I suppose though, aside from Bellamy and Bennett, the experienced coaches in the NRL struggle to get their teams up for the big prize. Hasler was pretty good from the get-go. Flanagan was a far better bet at Cronulla than Stuart. Maybe Kidwell's inexperience in that sense plays into his favour. Perhaps he has a culture and a structure that fits the organisation well...

Frankly, all I want out of it is a hard nut who is going to flog this mob in the off season, cut out the off field nonsense, tell it how it is, select who deserves to be selected, and doesn't buy into the last two years of we'll let 6 blokes go, and replace them with 2 blokes from NYC type strategy. In key positions we still need good old fashioned Australian experience and skill. Make sure we have enough specialist, full time coaches. Not do favours for mates. We need a full timer who knows how to coach defence, thats not necessarily the bloke who was great at defence himself. The fact we were exposed badly through the same plays in the centres speaks volumes about how poor that structure worked. Time for the Warriors to get hardcore, and bring back the mongrel to Auckland. Hopefully if Kidwell's selected he's the man to provide that. Given his hit on Willie Mason, I have some hope that he is.
Right on the money
 
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The Bulldogs received a $9 million government grant to upgrade Belmore Sports Ground and chose to use it towards establishing a world class training centre instead of trying to make Belmore suitable to host NRL games.

Sounds dodgy to apply for a grant to do one thing and do another!

Yeah, need a grant for my uni fee's, but spend it on some mean rims for my car!!!!

How did they get away with that???

Send the article off to Eric and Owen
 

Akkerz

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Sure do need a Leagues Club . All the promises made pre 1995 sound as hollow as the crap we have been hearing more recently.
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
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2013 is a pivotal year. No expense needs to be spared and we need results. Not a premiership, but we need to start the year well and be in the eight. If we don't, we're going to lose a lot of players who are off contract at the end of 2013. Mateo will be one of those. We're also going to struggle to attract anyone to come across the Tasman. We've already seen that the coaching gig over here isn't that attractive to the big names, no matter what the price.
 

playdaball

Bench
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Whilst it would have been good to get a Bellamy, Bennett, Hasler etc I'm not too gutted with the Kidwell / Elliot combo.

A few pointers though:

- need other support staff. They missed having a John Hart type mentor figure this year. Support staff need to teach the likes of Hurell how to read defences nd how to tackle (stand up Dean Bell)
- need more back up players as last year's small squad was a shocker
- Get a good fitness coach
- Perhaps even time to secure one more half decent signing? Reading the Sydney papers clubs always seem to struggle with the cap or some player's personality (i.e. Jennings, Grant, McKendry or Coote at Penrith)
- need a real good PR campaign to get punters (especially season ticket holders) back through the gates. Toward the end of this season a heap of loyal season ticket holders choose to stay away from Mt Smart
 

Aragorn

First Grade
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Dont worry everyone. Stay cool.

The owners know what they are doing.

Afterall, its their goal to take the clubs to heights never seen before in Australiasia.... or maybe they made a mistake and meant depths never seen before in Australiasia....
 
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Hope Owen is on the phone at the end of the next 40 mins leaving a congrats or commiseration voice message. Hopefully congrats mission accomplished your next mission if you choose to accept it!
 

Iafeta

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Hope Owen is on the phone at the end of the next 40 mins leaving a congrats or commiseration voice message. Hopefully congrats mission accomplished your next mission if you choose to accept it!

If that happened ... I would deadset explode over all of your faces.
 
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interesting article and positive for us

THE future of Storm super coach Craig Bellamy is in an almost identical position to his grand-final rival Des Hasler a year ago.

This time last year, Hasler had 12 months to go on his contract at Manly. Right now Bellamy has 12 months to go on his contract with Storm.

This time last year, Canterbury were delaying a decision on their next coach until after Manly played the grand final. Right now, the New Zealand Warriors are delaying a decision on their next coach until after Storm play the grand final.

Last year, Canterbury used Ricky Stuart's name as a smokescreen to hide their interest in Hasler. Now the Warriors are using Tim Sheens as a decoy to hide their interest in Bellamy.

Talks about Bellamy's future will hot up after the grand final.

The Warriors have been in regular contact with Bellamy's agent John Fordham but have requested strict confidentiality.

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Bellamy asked Fordham recently to put all talks on hold. "At Craig's request, no negotiations will take place until after the game," Fordham told me yesterday. "We'll get chatting with any interested parties over the next week or so."

Interestingly, Fordham was spotted having a beer at the Lord Dudley Hotel in Paddington yesterday with Warriors CEO Wayne Scurrah and football manager Dean Bell.

Whatever happens, Bellamy will no doubt join Wayne Bennett as the game's next $1 million-a-season coach.

He is on the record as saying he would never want to coach against his champion skipper Cameron Smith.

Storm owners News Limited are desperate to keep him, knowing a future sale of the club would be affected if he leaves.
 

Iafeta

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interesting article and positive for us

THE future of Storm super coach Craig Bellamy is in an almost identical position to his grand-final rival Des Hasler a year ago.

This time last year, Hasler had 12 months to go on his contract at Manly. Right now Bellamy has 12 months to go on his contract with Storm.

This time last year, Canterbury were delaying a decision on their next coach until after Manly played the grand final. Right now, the New Zealand Warriors are delaying a decision on their next coach until after Storm play the grand final.

Last year, Canterbury used Ricky Stuart's name as a smokescreen to hide their interest in Hasler. Now the Warriors are using Tim Sheens as a decoy to hide their interest in Bellamy.

Talks about Bellamy's future will hot up after the grand final.

The Warriors have been in regular contact with Bellamy's agent John Fordham but have requested strict confidentiality.

Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.

RECOMMENDED COVERAGE

Sam is off the scales

Stuart - Why the Storm will win

Gallen - Why the Dogs will win
End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.

Bellamy asked Fordham recently to put all talks on hold. "At Craig's request, no negotiations will take place until after the game," Fordham told me yesterday. "We'll get chatting with any interested parties over the next week or so."

Interestingly, Fordham was spotted having a beer at the Lord Dudley Hotel in Paddington yesterday with Warriors CEO Wayne Scurrah and football manager Dean Bell.

Whatever happens, Bellamy will no doubt join Wayne Bennett as the game's next $1 million-a-season coach.

He is on the record as saying he would never want to coach against his champion skipper Cameron Smith.

Storm owners News Limited are desperate to keep him, knowing a future sale of the club would be affected if he leaves.

Reading that gives me a hard on.
 

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