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Tim Sheens relieved of coaching duties

bottle

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Sheens' pockets will be the big benificiary of his perceived failures. Life's a funny thing.
 

adamkungl

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When players are writing articles openly criticising management, you know you're clubs f**ked. This will get uglier before it gets better imo, not over yet by a long shot
 

bottle

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If there wasn't a 'crisis' to keep us tuned in and hyped up over the off season, then there would only be the cricket.
 

clutch

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When players are writing articles openly criticising management, you know you're clubs f**ked. This will get uglier before it gets better imo, not over yet by a long shot

how much longer can the JV continue in most folks' opinion?

Balmain struggling with their financial commitments and no doubt tension would be high on both sides of the boardroom.

I can't see Western Suburbs contining to subsidise (if they are) the JV, or continually wait on Balmain's funding forever. It really is an inefficient way to operate a business.

Do the Magpies have the financial resources to operate a license on their own?

Would the NRL even consider awarding the license elsewhere if the JV were to dissolve?
 

Iafeta

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If Sheens is smart (and if the Warriors approach him), he'd tell the Warriors to just wait for a week or so.... big payout + new income :D.

Wests sound like they are in a bit of crisis, even if the player clearout is to bring Jennings in - Benji's article makes his dissatisfaction with the process quite clear.

I doubt he's coming to the Warriors (thank God I guess). He's apparently reluctant to go to Auckland. What a shame.
 

axl rose

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Would the NRL even consider awarding the license elsewhere if the JV were to dissolve?

:shock: christ..Tigers sack slow old Heighno and average Boe and we are already out of the comp. Its going to be a long off season.
 

Canard

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Sheens is truly the biggest merkin in rugby league
Colin Love & Laurie daley dont even come close

I HATE the guy, he is the worst coach my side ever had and lasted 5 years! coaching us into the ground.

But you can't begrudge any human being having a big fat contract and sticking to it.

Surely the blame must go towards the Cowboys and then West Tigers admin for signing a guy like him to such a contract.
 

clutch

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:shock: christ..Tigers sack slow old Heighno and average Boe and we are already out of the comp. Its going to be a long off season.

well, does anyone know how the WT JV is operating?

as far as I'm aware, it wasn't a SGI type buyout of ILL by STG.

The two sides are meant to be contributing to it. Western Suburbs seem be doing it financially. What are Balmain bringing to the table? Surely, the 'Tigers' brand isn't that valuable that Balmain can just rely on that and tow along while Western Suburbs fund, wait, fund, wait, etc.

I'm not saying the JV is going to finish up now, but realistically, how long does it have if it plods along like this for the next few years? The boardroom is factioned and one side is struggling to honour their financial commitments.
 
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BM1979

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When a coach says John Morris can be like Cooper Cronk that's when you sack them.

If I was the Tigers I would love to have him back at the moment, at least you know he would give 100% every game , not like the rest of the pea hearts barring a couple
 

BigRedV

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:shock: christ..Tigers sack slow old Heighno and average Boe and we are already out of the comp. Its going to be a long off season.

won't last long. Isn't usually November when the tele starts telling us all how the tigers and souths are once again the hot favourites :)

In all seriousness though how could he hang around when it's obvious everyone wants him out. I think they're long overdue as well. I still think there will also be more to come after sheens.
 

some11

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-years-in-charge/story-e6frexs9-1226480601339

TIM Sheens has quit as Wests Tigers coach following a revolt from his players.

He reached a settlement with the club yesterday to walk away after 10 years at the helm.

Sheens told Tigers players and officials yesterday afternoon he was no longer going to be involved at the club, and speculation immediately turned to him possibly switching to the New Zealand Warriors.

It is understood Sheens reached a compromise payout agreement regarding the final two years of his contract.

A Tigers board meeting last night to decide Sheens' future was cancelled and the club is believed to be holding off on a formal announcement to allow Sheens to sort out a deal with the Warriors.

Under the terms of Sheens' contract, he was to be paid the full amount of his $450,000-a-year deal if he was sacked. But the club baulked at a parting payment of $900,000.

While Sheens told several players and officials of the news yesterday, it's understood that he chose not to tell club captain Robbie Farah and star Benji Marshall.

Sheens is also thought to have told his longtime colleague Brian Hyder that the football manager too won't be at the Tigers next season.

In recent days the pressure to oust Sheens became apparent as leading players openly expressed displeasure over the departures of club favourites Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to the Sharks.

Sheens and the Tigers came to an agreement over the payout terms, while a new deal with New Zealand would likely cover the shortfall if it eventuated.

Sheens is keen to retain the Kangaroos job, presenting the curious situation where he could have to coach against a Kiwi side packed with his Warriors players should he take the Auckland job.

Tim Sheens - Tigers


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Source: The Daily Telegraph



Candidates for the Tigers job include Melbourne assistant coach Kevin Walters and Manly and NSW assistant coach Matt Parish.

Sheens, who guided the joint-venture club to the 2005 premiership, is understood to have spoken to Warriors executives yesterday about a possible deal.

Warriors chairman Bill Wavish is expected to fly to London within days to discuss candidates for the coaching gig with club owners Eric Watson and Owen Glenn.

While the Tigers failed to make the top eight this year, the real problems began when Ryan and Heighington confirmed last week they were defecting to Cronulla.

Marshall was furious, particularly as he has a close relationship with both players.

He made his feelings known in an explosive confrontation with club chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

With popular prop Bryce Gibbs having departed last year, also to the Sharks, some of the remaining players felt the club was being ripped apart because of its inability to retain long-serving stars.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Coach Tim Sheens quits Wests Tigers after 10 years in charge




TIM Sheens has quit as Wests Tigers coach following a revolt from his players.

He reached a settlement with the club yesterday to walk away after 10 years at the helm.
Sheens told Tigers players and officials yesterday afternoon he was no longer going to be involved at the club, and speculation immediately turned to him possibly switching to the New Zealand Warriors.
It is understood Sheens reached a compromise payout agreement regarding the final two years of his contract.
A Tigers board meeting last night to decide Sheens' future was cancelled and the club is believed to be holding off on a formal announcement to allow Sheens to sort out a deal with the Warriors.
Under the terms of Sheens' contract, he was to be paid the full amount of his $450,000-a-year deal if he was sacked. But the club baulked at a parting payment of $900,000.
Source

Essentially the same story with a different headline.

However, over at the SMH, they have a similar story along with this speculation:

  • 1:15AM Tuesday Sep 25, 2012



Purse strings could tie Sheens to Tigers

Date September 25, 2012 Brad Walter

SALARY cap problems and a shortage of money to pay out coach Tim Sheens have left Wests Tigers' preparations for 2013 in limbo.
A review of the club's 2012 performance is expected to recommend that the Tigers part ways with Sheens but the joint venture cannot afford to pay him $900,000 for the remaining two years of his contract.
In addition, the Tigers would have to find an estimated $250,000 for a new coach next season if they were to appoint a replacement untried at NRL level such as Matt Parish, Steve Georgallis or Peter Gentle.
An emergency board meeting set down for last night to discuss Sheens's future was cancelled but directors have been in regular contact since they decided last Thursday night to conduct a review of the Tigers' miserable season.
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Since missing out on a place in the finals by two points, long-standing relationships at the Tigers have begun to unravel, and Sheens is believed to have lost the support of star players Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah.
While it has been suggested that relations between Sheens - the Australian coach - and Farah have not been the same since last year's Four Nations in England, Marshall had been a vocal supporter.
Just two weeks ago, the star playmaker wrote a column in The Sun-Herald declaring that he thought Sheens was still the best coach in the game and had the respect of the players ''in spades''.
However, the shock departures of the popular Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington to Cronulla and news that centre Blake Ayshford had also been told he was free to find another club appears to have changed that.
The Herald revealed last week that Farah would consider a move to Parramatta when his contract expires next season, while Marshall wrote in his column last Sunday that he was struggling to come to terms with the decision to allow Ryan and Heighington to leave.
Heighington was under contract but was seeking a two-year extension, and when the Sharks offered him a three-year deal, the Tigers agreed to release him.
After being offered a release a year earlier, the Central Coast-born England second-rower clearly didn't fit into Sheens's long-term plans.
Ryan had agreed to terms on a new three-year deal with the Tigers 10 weeks earlier. However, no deal was signed, and the Herald was told Ryan became frustrated at delays as he was trying to get a home loan.
When he discovered Heighington was going to Cronulla he decided to join him.
Tigers management has been criticised for not formalising the deal with Ryan but the Herald has been told that the club was not in a position to lodge a contract until it had resolved salary cap issues.
Under NRL rules, all contracts must be lodged with salary cap auditor Ian Schubert within two weeks of being signed, and he has reportedly refused to register a new deal for Manly's Brett Stewart for similar reasons.
Sea Eagles prop Brent Kite has been linked with the Tigers but the Herald understands club management disagrees with Sheens over signing another player over 30 after recruiting Braith Anasta from the Roosters.
The Tigers boast two of the best young props in the game in Aaron Woods and Matt Groat. The club won this year's under-18 SG Ball competition and has qualified for the grand finals of the under-20 Toyota Cup and NSW Cup, the latter through feeder team Balmain-Ryde.
Source

Also, Brent Kite. FML....
 
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Vic Mackey

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The two papers will two very different exclusives

Will be interesting to see who does have the real 'inside info'

No doubts whoever is right will use the bragging rights quiet heavily
 
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