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Todd Greenberg has got to go!

Are you happy with Greenberg's performance as CEO?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 5.9%
  • No

    Votes: 86 85.1%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 9 8.9%

  • Total voters
    101

Hello, I'm The Doctor

First Grade
Messages
9,124
The clubs love him which is not exactly a good sign. I'd heard great things about him but having since heard him speak, he comes across as callous and a bit reckless. Comes off as doing anything to sell a product for a quick buck...

Since the clubs have whore out every part of the identity, he would be a perfect fit as their rep...
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
Messages
94,107
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.a...k/news-story/a11fc5ff4380958455305db7484ae598

Nine blames NRL as it tries to win back female viewers, with a potential cost to the TV network

Holly Byrnes, National TV editor, News Corp Australia Network
in 2 hours


Exclusive: Channel 9 has blamed the NRL’s disastrous handling of the code’s ‘summer of shame’ for “trashing” its attempts to lure back more female viewers — already deserting the network over axed Today co-host Karl Stefanovic.

A four-week, on-air campaign, set to an Andra Day pop anthem ‘Rise Up’, had been designed to broaden league’s appeal already suffering after last season’s horror headlines, which began last January when Brisbane Broncos player Matt Lodge — disgraced over a violent home invasion in New York — was welcomed back into the game.

Network insiders have confirmed the “heartfelt and emotional” promotional push — which ran during the Australian Open and episodes of the female-skewed reality series, Married At First Sight — had “been trashed” in the mud now sticking to league after a series of disgusting off-field scandals — including Jarryd Hayne’s arrest over allegations of a brutal sex attack, Ben Barba’s domestic violence-related dumping and Jack De Belin’s court appearance on rape charges.

As one executive bemoaned: “it’s very hard to reset the expectations of rugby league when all this is going on.”

Ironically, Nine is set to launch its next NRL ad on-air from tomorrow — using a Panic At The Disco’s hit, ‘High Hopes’.

While NRL boss Todd Greenberg was finally pushed last week to call out the latest off-season as a “trainwreck,” the broadcaster is furious at the financial risks they now face from an audience and advertiser backlash — after paying a record $925 million for the free-to-air rights.

One Nine boss said they “have no sympathy” for the game’s governance, which has lurched from one disaster to another, mocking former Queensland premier and ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie’s calls last week for yet another review into player conduct.

The governing body had to get consistent with punishments and “stick to it,” and more controversially, suggested players be offered an “amnesty” if they had sex tapes or other socially-unacceptable skeletons likely to further damage the game.

While it is not the TV industry’s responsibility to clean up the game’s act, the Nine executive said drastic measures and a “culture over talent” approach was the only way forward.

“The game needs to draw a line in the sand and say, ‘from now on, it’s not just about illegal behaviour that can bring a police charge, it’s about anything that can bring the game into disrepute.”

But sports marketing experts have warned the game and its TV partners will almost certainly pay a hefty price for its men behaving badly.

Ben Parsons, of Ministry of Sport marketing agency, told Fox Sports online that NRL administrators had failed fans and advertisers and blackened its own brand.

“No one’s actually showing (the players) what good brand is, the NRL are hopeless,” Parsons said, adding “I put them in my top five worst administrators for brand and reputation management for individual athletes.”

PR and crisis management specialist, Max Markson said clubs, some already grasping for revenue to stay afloat, would also suffer.

“It will affect every club in the NRL,” Markson said.

“It’s ongoing. It’s like Chinese water torture — drip, drip, drip, drip. It continues to erode the brand of the NRL. From a long-term perspective of a company, they’ll think ‘Do I want to get involved in the NRL? No, I’d rather get behind a sport that’s clean’.”
 

Spot On

Coach
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13,902
Shall be interesting to watch if the TV rights deal stagnates or drops next time round due to the lack of LEADERSHIP shown under Greenburger.

Ch 9 already angling for it from the sound of that article. Can't blame them.

The RLPA might have to cop some changes to the funding model as they are 'Partners in the game' now. You can't continue to have the hand out for money that might not be there next time round.

Time Greenburger starts to punish any and all players who bring the game into disrepute. It is also time the RLPA grows up and does something to help address the behavioural issues of some of its members.
 

Spot On

Coach
Messages
13,902
Yes Diablo. We know. Not the point. No one is disputing that.

Surely you know negotiations for the next deal will begin well before that and while the game is continually shooting itself in the foot with a lack of leadership and direction and players are keeping up the alcohol fuelled indescretions, the upper hand is being given to those interested in paying for the broadcast rights. And you wouldn't want to be paying a premium for them unless drastic, positive change occurs very, very soon. That's a no brainer atm.

Another article this morn claims over 10 million in new corporate sponsorship $$$ may have been lost over this off season alone due to player behaviour. And that came from the South Sydney CEO.

If the players are truly partners in the game, then they should wear some of the loses, where they occur, with their 'share' of total revenue deal.

This is where Greenburger can do something to take control instead of pleading with deadshits to get off the grog and grow up. That's not going to happen - and has been proven well beyond doubt don't you think?
 
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mongoose

Coach
Messages
11,817
Shall be interesting to watch if the TV rights deal stagnates or drops next time round due to the lack of LEADERSHIP shown under Greenburger.

Ch 9 already angling for it from the sound of that article. Can't blame them.

The RLPA might have to cop some changes to the funding model as they are 'Partners in the game' now. You can't continue to have the hand out for money that might not be there next time round.

Time Greenburger starts to punish any and all players who bring the game into disrepute. It is also time the RLPA grows up and does something to help address the behavioural issues of some of its members.

I want more consistent punishments for off field offenses but just because Channel 9 or News says the game has been brought into disrepute doesn't make it so. Still need to presume innocence until proven guilty for the cases like Shaun Kenny Dowall, Brett Stewart
 

Eion

First Grade
Messages
8,034
The 9 execs make some valid points. I’d just rather hear them from reps of a company that didn’t bring us morally corrupt garbage like Married At First Sight.

Ratings is all they have ever really given a shite about and that won’t change.
 

Cactus

Juniors
Messages
761
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.a...k/news-story/a11fc5ff4380958455305db7484ae598

Nine blames NRL as it tries to win back female viewers, with a potential cost to the TV network

Holly Byrnes, National TV editor, News Corp Australia Network
in 2 hours


Exclusive: Channel 9 has blamed the NRL’s disastrous handling of the code’s ‘summer of shame’ for “trashing” its attempts to lure back more female viewers — already deserting the network over axed Today co-host Karl Stefanovic.

A four-week, on-air campaign, set to an Andra Day pop anthem ‘Rise Up’, had been designed to broaden league’s appeal already suffering after last season’s horror headlines, which began last January when Brisbane Broncos player Matt Lodge — disgraced over a violent home invasion in New York — was welcomed back into the game.

Network insiders have confirmed the “heartfelt and emotional” promotional push — which ran during the Australian Open and episodes of the female-skewed reality series, Married At First Sight — had “been trashed” in the mud now sticking to league after a series of disgusting off-field scandals — including Jarryd Hayne’s arrest over allegations of a brutal sex attack, Ben Barba’s domestic violence-related dumping and Jack De Belin’s court appearance on rape charges.

As one executive bemoaned: “it’s very hard to reset the expectations of rugby league when all this is going on.”

Ironically, Nine is set to launch its next NRL ad on-air from tomorrow — using a Panic At The Disco’s hit, ‘High Hopes’.

While NRL boss Todd Greenberg was finally pushed last week to call out the latest off-season as a “trainwreck,” the broadcaster is furious at the financial risks they now face from an audience and advertiser backlash — after paying a record $925 million for the free-to-air rights.

One Nine boss said they “have no sympathy” for the game’s governance, which has lurched from one disaster to another, mocking former Queensland premier and ARL Commission chairman Peter Beattie’s calls last week for yet another review into player conduct.

The governing body had to get consistent with punishments and “stick to it,” and more controversially, suggested players be offered an “amnesty” if they had sex tapes or other socially-unacceptable skeletons likely to further damage the game.

While it is not the TV industry’s responsibility to clean up the game’s act, the Nine executive said drastic measures and a “culture over talent” approach was the only way forward.

“The game needs to draw a line in the sand and say, ‘from now on, it’s not just about illegal behaviour that can bring a police charge, it’s about anything that can bring the game into disrepute.”

But sports marketing experts have warned the game and its TV partners will almost certainly pay a hefty price for its men behaving badly.

Ben Parsons, of Ministry of Sport marketing agency, told Fox Sports online that NRL administrators had failed fans and advertisers and blackened its own brand.

“No one’s actually showing (the players) what good brand is, the NRL are hopeless,” Parsons said, adding “I put them in my top five worst administrators for brand and reputation management for individual athletes.”

PR and crisis management specialist, Max Markson said clubs, some already grasping for revenue to stay afloat, would also suffer.

“It will affect every club in the NRL,” Markson said.

“It’s ongoing. It’s like Chinese water torture — drip, drip, drip, drip. It continues to erode the brand of the NRL. From a long-term perspective of a company, they’ll think ‘Do I want to get involved in the NRL? No, I’d rather get behind a sport that’s clean’.”


Allow me to condense & interpret the credibility of that article for you all:


THE PREMISE
  • That the efforts of Nines to draw back female viewership lost because they dislike Karl Stefanovic has been somehow damaged by the sport of Rugby League and administration of the NRL……sure, seems credible, lol.
THE AGENDA
  • Story written by minion of Rupert who has publicly stated he wants to promote another Australian sport in preference to RL
  • Story written by the parent company of Fox (ie Rupert) who wants to pay less for broadcast rights
  • Story written by Gold Coast Bulletin – much cred there lol
IS THE STORY CONTENT CREDIBLE
  • “Network Insiders”
  • “One un-named 9 Executive”
  • “One un-named 9 Boss”
  • Ben Parsons from Ministry of Sport interviewd by Fox Sports (who want to pay less)
  • Max Markson. hahahahahahahahahahahaah
 

simmo05

Bench
Messages
4,136
The coin wont drop. Fox needs the nrl and so does nein. Also, nein has done more to turn viewers off than anyone. My wife refuses to watch if johns and gould are commentating. Which is cool with me while i get on the piss and yell at the tv and dont have to hear her shit, but how many others switch off because of them two??
 

Tiger5150

Bench
Messages
3,881
I'm literally debating whether or not a board would be able to install a board member as CEO. That's all.

Whether Todd stays or goes is irrelevant and I actually couldn't care either way. The next CEO will, in time (or immediately) suffer the same fate - hatred from fans and demands to go.

Just yanking ya chain mate.

However.....if the new guy, you know, actually did something and did a good job, he might be spared some criticism.
 

Diesel

Referee
Messages
23,777
How ironic of 9 to complain about the NRL and it’s image. Anytime there’s a smallest hint of a rumour, it’s the leading story.

Suck shit 9.

How about promoting the game by KO at the advertised time, or covering more grass root games. I’m sure as part of the previous deal there was a component of “x” hours of RL per day that never happened.
 

Vee

First Grade
Messages
5,639
How ironic of 9 to complain about the NRL and it’s image. Anytime there’s a smallest hint of a rumour, it’s the leading story.

Suck shit 9.

How about promoting the game by KO at the advertised time, or ...
...making the game the centrepiece instead of your on-air personalities.

Or not promoting the rival code on your station.

I'm sure there are other examples.
 

Last Week

Bench
Messages
3,726
Let's wait and see if there's actually any significant drop in ratings before we lose our shit.

Further, innocent until proven guilty.

The game should be supportive of their players. If sponsors, media and 'fans' can't understand that, and just want to stick to blind outrage, f**k em. They were never partners/supporters of the game in the first place and are only in it for themselves.

This is a controversial idea, but the NRL/ARLC need to pump up their professionalism by about 300%. When that happens, they absolutely should welcome corporates/media partners/sponsors to the table when it comes to the games image. Give and take. Build this relationship up.

It can't be just about money any more. The game is rich enough. And the NRL doesn't have the reach in order to influence its supporters. It needs more partners in the game.
 

Exsilium

Coach
Messages
10,347
We should just boycott televised games and go to them instead.

Won’t fix shit but the less we allow the media to control the state of play, the better this game will be.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
Staff member
Messages
100,990
Let's wait and see if there's actually any significant drop in ratings before we lose our shit.
468k nationally on FTA with another 84k Fox. Was directly up against a BBL Semi Final (and A-League but meh).

I think for a pre-season game with little impact they'd be quite happy with that.
 

myrrh ken

First Grade
Messages
9,817
Still waiting for greenberg cowboys and nrl to announce the punishment of bolton.

Doing nothing would mean nrl condones groping women.

Waiting to announce it before the season would suggest they are sweeping it under the carpet.
 

Diesel

Referee
Messages
23,777
Still waiting for greenberg cowboys and nrl to announce the punishment of bolton.

Doing nothing would mean nrl condones groping women.

Waiting to announce it before the season would suggest they are sweeping it under the carpet.
That happened before Barba, he got his eyeballing at the time to the media scrum so Todd’s conviently forgotten
 

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