Trade Ivan to Penrith for 2019

[Pilot house]

Yes, you have to create the demand for the brand.

I’d be issuing discount cards for major retailers with standard memberships. Cut some deals.

Give the public cash.

Present yourself as anti- progressive and working class conservative. Trump people.

You want folk to become members whether they attend or are interested in games or not.

You have to broaden the appeal I guess.

If my tigers membership was going to get me 4 cents off a litre at bp or whatever, I’d join up in seconds. I’d be happy to buy into tigers, even if I support Souths.

 

[Vic Mackey]

I'm being serious here:

Until W/T have one home ground they will struggle especially with facilities and resources. 3 or 4 home grounds is just plain crazy.

Looking as an outsider Campbelltown should be the place.

I’m being serious here

F*%k off

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Interesting words. You always know when someone has lost a discussion when name calling is the first port of call.

 

[bjm8]

I think we need to get behind and team up with the SW Sydney/Macarthur bid for the A-League, games being played at Cambo 12 months of the year will be more likely to attract funding than Leichhardt or Brookvale, for example.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Yes, you have to create the demand for the brand.

I’d be issuing discount cards for major retailers with standard memberships. Cut some deals.

Give the public cash.

Present yourself as anti- progressive and working class conservative. Trump people.

You want folk to become members whether they attend or are interested in games or not.

You have to broaden the appeal I guess.

If my tigers membership was going to get me 4 cents off a litre at bp or whatever, I’d join up in seconds. I’d be happy to buy into tigers, even if I support Souths.

I think your on the money here.

Originally Balmain and Wests were working class areas. Now most of those folks wouldn't know one end of a footy from the other.

Campbelltown would be the easiest place to begin their 're-moulding'

 

[Tiger05]

If the Tigers laid their roots at Campbelltown, the five your old boy of today will be the man with the kids in 20 years time and he will be a Tiger for life. Investing financially and emotionally.

It's a no brainer to me.

The issue is your last statement. I don't think it is a no brainer. If your belief that there is a booming population in Campbelltown that will support the Tigers was true then I'd agree with you but I'm now not convinced that is the case. I used to be convinced that was the case but I'm not sure now.

I have several work friends who live in Leichardt/Balmain area and in the Liverpool/Campbelltown area that are Tigers fans. The ones in Leichardt/Balmain have way more supporters and they attend games.

That doesn't include booming inner-city areas like Ashfield and even Lidcombe and Sydney Olympic Park.

I'm not sold on the demographics being so good at Campbelltown.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

If your prepared to play the long game. (the generational game) it will work.

Get out into the schooks and also the junior leage clubs.

It might take 10 years but it will happen.

 

[Western Stand]

You mentioned demographics, this is where I believe their problem starts, I have an old mate in real estate based at Camden, he has told me many a time that you see more South Sydney jerseys out there but not as many as Manchester City, Manchester United, Chelsea & Liverpool. What they have in all of the new suburbs out there is young people moving from the eastern suburbs, inner west, Canterbury district and the Shire because land and house packages are cheaper. What these people are are supporters of Cronulla, St George, Souths, Canterbury and the Tigers.

This was Penrith in the early 80's. Penrith supporters in Penrith were rare breeds. The glamour teams of the time were Parramatta, Canterbury, Balmain, Easts and Souths.

This is why you need a long term strategy. I don't mean 5-10 years, I mean 25-50 years. The future and sustainability of your club lays with the people that are too young to support the club financially at the moment. Kids are impressionable and if they see something they can align themselves to, they will ultimately be the advocates for future generations.

Penrith is only now starting to bare the fruits of a long term existence. Our club is 50 years old and it has taken that long for people to lose their allegiances to St George or Balmain or Parramatta. The kids who live around Penrith are finally supporting Penrith because their Mum or Dad did. The outside influence has slowly dried up and like I did, the local kids feel that this is their team.

We had 3 sell outs this year and over 20,000 members. The club has adopted the western plains as theirs and the kids beyond the mountains are starting to feel like they are part of something. Once again, this is thinking way past what you and I are likely to see.

The Tigers have exactly the same opportunity.

 

[Western Stand]

The issue is your last statement. I don't think it is a no brainer. If your belief that there is a booming population in Campbelltown that will support the Tigers was true then I'd agree with you but I'm now not convinced that is the case. I used to be convinced that was the case but I'm not sure now.

I have several work friends who live in Leichardt/Balmain area and in the Liverpool/Campbelltown area that are Tigers fans. The ones in Leichardt/Balmain have way more supporters and they attend games.

That doesn't include booming inner-city areas like Ashfield and even Lidcombe and Sydney Olympic Park.

I'm not sold on the demographics being so good at Campbelltown.

It is going to take 10, 20, 30 years but ultimately it will work if laid out properly. Take a game or two to Leichhardt for sure but have one base.

And why not make that base the largest growing region in Australia? This is why it is a no brainer to me.

One question for you season ticket holders - does it annoy you that you don't get to sit in the same seat at every home game? Being pushed around to ground after ground takes away from the tribalism as far as I am concerned.

 

[Western Stand]

If the 10 year old that lives at Harrington Park can go 10 minutes up the road and watch the Tigers every 2nd or 3rd week, that will build the loyalty. What is the point in seeing your heroes play once every 6-8 weeks. That doesn't breed familiarity.

 

[Western Stand]

Anyway, good luck to you Tiger fans. I hope you land Bennett and you make the finals next year.

 

[super_coach]

Iam happy to make the new Parra stadium home, with a special event game at LO, a special event game at Cambo and our token Tamworth game. I think all teams should be allocated a regional centre and have to play one game there a year.

Anyway back to Clearygate, one thing is for certain, he can’t coach at the Tigers now in 2019. The damage has been done and we have to move on. Yes I am terribly disappointed in Cleary but what can you do.

 

[Tigerm]

If we start winning they will come, winning solves all in sport.

 

[Perth Tiger]

I'm not in Sydney so don't really care where they are based, but it seems ridiculous to be trying to limit ourselves to a small geographically region, particularly one that has not shown much desire for the Tigers to abandon its other areas. It smacks of small time thinking for a small time club.

We should be thinking larger, Suburban teams will always be the weak team in the NRL with brief periods of success depending on their juniors.

If we want to compete with the big boys we need to try and engage any fans where ever they are and to do that if/when we go down the path of a single stadium it will need to be one of the large central ones with WSS or whatever happens with ANZ.

 

[Trollhammaren]

Personally, I don't think we should focus solely on an area (SW Sydney) where we can hardly attract 10K fans to a game out there; and it appears there are just as many fans of other Sydney clubs in the area anyway.

We have die-hard fans all over the city, state, and country. If we can make the new Western Sydney stadium a fortress, with the odd games at Leichhardt and Campbelltown, get results on the field, and we will attract fans.

Oh, in regards to the thread topic:

* F*** Ivan and f*** Penrith.

 

[simmo1]

We should be playing minimum 6-8 games out of the new WSS. It will likely be the premium NRL venue in Sydney, and fans will want to attend games played there.

 

[Pilot house]

We should be playing minimum 6-8 games out of the new WSS. It will likely be the premium NRL venue in Sydney, and fans will want to attend games played there.

I hope so, but the traffic will be shocking.

It’s grid locked now, I see it about every day.

 

[simmo1]

And I'm not sure why we'd care what Penrith fans think is our best growth strategy is. We already have a larger supporter base.

 

[simmo1]

I hope so, but the traffic will be shocking.

It’s grid locked now, I see it about every day.

Traffic is bad everywhere in Sydney. Getting out of Leichhardt and Campbelltown is often a shit fight too.

 

[Das Hassler]

If the 10 year old that lives at Harrington Park can go 10 minutes up the road and watch the Tigers every 2nd or 3rd week, that will build the loyalty. What is the point in seeing your heroes play once every 6-8 weeks. That doesn't breed familiarity.

A larger view presents a different picture....firstly....after 19 years of at times very painful existence WT has the largest supporter base of ALL the Sydney based clubs...Panthers ( after 50 + years included). ..now that's not such a big a deal untill you consider it agsinst the backdrop of how our society in regards business..entertainment and transportation is changing. You're offering a viewpoint that a business should only concentrate on it's local area to survive longterm in a changing world. If that was the one size fits all way to go then rhe Beatles wouldn't have needed to play outside of Liverpool ....If WT can continue to grow as the team in Sydney to follow because kids ( from wherever) like who and what they are then they will support them no matter whete they're from...i supported ( lived for) Balmain as a kid living 15 minutes from Penrith for just that reason. "Tigers" is an iconic sporting name ..logo and identity across Australia and the U.S. ( in fact the world) and is most probably the most commonly used name in Australian regional Rugby League ....Magpies would be right up there as well. Just as bands tour to build and support their fan base WT should continue to capitalise on and grow the large supporter base we have outside of our traditional areas. Can any Panthers or Roosters fan explain how WT can get more to a home game played at Tamworth or in NZ than those two very rich teams COMBINED can muster for a knockout semi played here in Sydney?
Panthers were 24 hours away from being wound up by creditors and were only saved by a last minute loan from James Packer so the methodically honed 50 year building is a little illusionary....as with other clubs your money comes from the pockies....your mini Las Vegas generates more than most BUT..just as everything else is changing so will the pokie laws one day. ..you wont have them as they are forever or perhaps even for much longer as the rich / poor divide and it's social consequences becomes increasingly politically uncomfortable. WT should look to the future as having rhe widest most diverse supporter base where we can take games and fill grounds where no one else can as successfully....our perceived handicap should be our strength...imagine having 10,000 plus supporters in all the major cities and all regional areas plus continue to grow the supporter base we have all across Sydney . I believe that's where our future is. ..we dont NEED to anchor ourselves within 10 minutes of mum and dad's place...the 50 year old hardware store serving the local community is dying off in all it's guises. Grow or be left behind but re adjust the thinking of what " grow" means in a changing sporting demographic"

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