Transfer Rumours

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Atleast Sneijder is worth it

 

[CC_Eagle]

Foxsports are reporting Wesley Sniejder to Citeh for some ridiculous amount of money, forty something million

What a waste of talent.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

So it's finally settled http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...r-for-spain-star/story-e6frf4a3-1226113355827

Cesc Fabregas set to join Barcelona FC as Arsenal accept $A50.46 million offer for Spain star

• AAP
• August 11, 2011 8:25PM

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is set to join Barcelona FC after the Gunners accepted a 36 million euros ($A50.46 million) offer for the Spain midfielder, British press reported on Thursday.

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Multiple reports said the saga of Fabregas' return to his boyhood club was likely to be settled before the start of the Barclays Premier League campaign as Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger attempts to draw a line under the affair.
Fabregas's likely departure ends years of speculation surrounding the 24-year-old World Cup winner, who had made no secret of his desire to one day return to the Nou Camp.
Several outlets reported that Fabregas would forfeit five million euros ($A7 million) in compensation he is contractually entitled to because of Arsenal's decision to sell him to Barcelona.

Barcelona had tabled a bid for Fabregas last summer only to have it rejected by Arsenal, who insisted the player was not for sale.
However, Arsenal's hardline stance did not deter Barcelona, who duly resumed their pursuit of the player this year.
Wenger had initially insisted he expected Fabregas to stay but has become increasingly resigned to losing the player.
The Frenchman urged Fabregas to show commitment in July to avoid destabilising Arsenal's pre-season.
"If Fabregas is committed to this club and wants to stay, no money will get him out of here," Wenger said before the Emirates Cup.
"We are not in a position where we need to sell our players. We are not looking after money.
"He cares about this club and that's why I hope he can keep him."

Sanchez now Fabregas.... seriously how the f**k are teams supposed to beat them?

 

[WireMan]

So it's finally settled http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...r-for-spain-star/story-e6frf4a3-1226113355827



Sanchez now Fabregas.... seriously how the f**k are teams supposed to beat them?

How do they afford them. Financial fair play anyone?

We have just had to buy bonds from the spanish government to stop the country going under.
Maybe Barca should of bought them instead.

 

[Tommy Smith]

The best team in the world by a mile just got a hell of a lot better over the summer.

Fabregas warming the bench. Now that's strength!

It seems as though everyone wants to play for either Real or Barca these days. They're like a vacuum soaking up all the elite talent in the world...with money they dont have.

It's not sustainable.

 

[Tommy Smith]

But for now, how's this for a team:

-----------------Valdes----------------

Alves------Puyol---------Pique---Abidal

-----------Busquets---Xavi (Fabregas)---

--Sanchez (Pedro)--Messi-----Iniesta----

-----------------Villa-------------------

Wow.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Ridiculous.

It'll be interesting to see what Wenger does now.... spend some money ya kent

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

The best team in the world by a mile just got a hell of a lot better over the summer.

Fabregas warming the bench. Now that's strength!

It seems as though everyone wants to play for either Real or Barca these days. They're like a vacuum soaking up all the elite talent in the world...with money they dont have.

It's not sustainable.

It's ridiculous, total bullshit. Everybody in the world supposedly grows up dreaming of playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid, Mario Götze the latest to claim this (Barcelona)

Meanwhile, the other 2/3 of footballers playing in Spain barely get paid

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/11082011/58/la-liga-footballers-vote-strike-spain.html

Both of them will get away with flaunting FFP aswell. Both are hundreds of millions of Euros in to debt and both are regularly topping the European transfer list, Real Madrid make 55% of the €1.1bn of La Liga transfers from the last 7 or 8 years.

Chel$ki and Man City can be added to the list. First year of FFP will be interesting because if these team aren't banned from Europe then it will fail but we know they won't be banned from Europe because interest in the CL will be minimal in Asia and the Middle East.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Yeah it's a massive concern.

How exactly does the Fifa Fairplay work?

Hopefully it can stop Real Madrid and Barcelona basically fielding two World XIs which appears to be where we are heading.

 

[Ridders]

Am I the only one that thinks that €36 Mill for a player of Fabregas' quality (and age) is a bit of a bargain?

I mean Liverpool paid about that much for Andy Carroll. Chelsea paid about 50 mill pounds on Torres. Not that long ago Real spent €65 mill on Kaka. €36 Mill would be close to what City spent on Tevez and just recently spent on Aguero.

If the fee reported above is accurate then, given how Barca have bungled transfers in recent times (i.e. Ibrahimovich, Chygrynskiy), it's a nice bit of business for them.

 

[Twizzle]

It's ridiculous, total bullshit. Everybody in the world supposedly grows up dreaming of playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid, Mario Götze the latest to claim this (Barcelona)

Meanwhile, the other 2/3 of footballers playing in Spain barely get paid

http://eurosport.yahoo.com/11082011/58/la-liga-footballers-vote-strike-spain.html

Both of them will get away with flaunting FFP aswell. Both are hundreds of millions of Euros in to debt and both are regularly topping the European transfer list, Real Madrid make 55% of the €1.1bn of La Liga transfers from the last 7 or 8 years.

Chel$ki and Man City can be added to the list. First year of FFP will be interesting because if these team aren't banned from Europe then it will fail but we know they won't be banned from Europe because interest in the CL will be minimal in Asia and the Middle East.

I wonder how it will be policed and what tactics the big and powerful clubs will use to challenge it.

I read an article a month or so back how the UAE wanted to sponsor Citeh for €400 million. Its owned by the family that own the club so they are effectively sponsoring themselves.

 

[aqua_duck]

Yeah it's a massive concern.

How exactly does the Fifa Fairplay work?

Hopefully it can stop Real Madrid and Barcelona basically fielding two World XIs which appears to be where we are heading.

Well in defence of Barca, Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Fabregas, Pedro, Iniesta, and Messi were all products of the youth academy, even if you take out all the big money buys we'd still field a world class XI.

 

[aqua_duck]

Am I the only one that thinks that €36 Mill for a player of Fabregas' quality (and age) is a bit of a bargain?

I mean Liverpool paid about that much for Andy Carroll. Chelsea paid about 50 mill pounds on Torres. Not that long ago Real spent €65 mill on Kaka. €36 Mill would be close to what City spent on Tevez and just recently spent on Aguero.

If the fee reported above is accurate then, given how Barca have bungled transfers in recent times (i.e. Ibrahimovich, Chygrynskiy), it's a nice bit of business for them.

It's a good deal, especially in the current climate. I mean when you consider in the past 18 months, Torres for £50m, Carroll for £35m, Pastore for €42m, Coentrao for €30m, Downing for £20m, and Aguero for £38 m, it's somewhat of a bargain IMO, considering his age, his record and his experience, however I'm not sure we really needed him when we've got Thiago Alcantara, a bloke who's good enough to break into the Spanish national team already warming the bench.

I still hope we can buy a decent centre back.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Am I the only one that thinks that €36 Mill for a player of Fabregas' quality (and age) is a bit of a bargain?

I mean Liverpool paid about that much for Andy Carroll. Chelsea paid about 50 mill pounds on Torres. Not that long ago Real spent €65 mill on Kaka. €36 Mill would be close to what City spent on Tevez and just recently spent on Aguero.

If the fee reported above is accurate then, given how Barca have bungled transfers in recent times (i.e. Ibrahimovich, Chygrynskiy), it's a nice bit of business for them.

It's an absolute steal. If Henderson is worth 20m, then Fabregas is worth 60m.

Especially considering that Cesc still has another 4-5 years on his contract. I'll be very disappointed if it's anything less than 40m.

40m will (hopefully) allow the purchase of Mata, Cahill and possibly another midfielder. Which overall would drastically improve the squad.

It's ridiculous, total bullshit. Everybody in the world supposedly grows up dreaming of playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid, Mario Götze the latest to claim this (Barcelona)

Götze has said that already? FFS. ](*,)

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

I wonder how it will be policed and what tactics the big and powerful clubs will use to challenge it.

I read an article a month or so back how the UAE wanted to sponsor Citeh for €400 million. Its owned by the family that own the club so they are effectively sponsoring themselves.

The stadium sponsorship is crooked, you're right they're basically sponsoring themselves when it it supposed to come from outside parties and the outrageous sponsorship deal will even out City's books.

Well in defence of Barca, Valdes, Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Fabregas, Pedro, Iniesta, and Messi were all products of the youth academy, even if you take out all the big money buys we'd still field a world class XI.

That's not the point though. Barca are something like €700m in debt, their wage bill would be enormous, they barely make money but can find €60m for transfers?

 

[WireMan]

The stadium sponsorship is crooked, you're right they're basically sponsoring themselves when it it supposed to come from outside parties and the outrageous sponsorship deal will even out City's books.

Will be interesting to see what happens with that. If City do that and are allowed in to Champs league then thats the FFP rules scrapped.

That's not the point though. Barca are something like €700m in debt, their wage bill would be enormous, they barely make money but can find €60m for transfers?

Barca has the biggest wage bill in football. They cannot afford it and keep relying on bank loans to bail them out. Thats why they have a shirt sponsor now.
It will be interesting what happens next time, now the banks are struggling and unemployment is going through the roof. At some point people are going to say enough is enough. Make the players pay there taxes (very generous tax breaks if your a foreign footballer) and stop giving them money. The spanish government may be unwilling to say that, but it may not be upto them.


As for that team, i like Pedro so the team posted is no better than it was. They have brought a reserve and a possible improvement. Barca are more likely to drop Villa than Pedro.

Funny how people dream of playing for these clubs. I bet Affelay dreams of playing for Barca. But he is not going to get a game for them.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Will be interesting to see what happens with that. If City do that and are allowed in to Champs league then thats the FFP rules scrapped.

We will see how serious UEFA are when it comes to the FFP. It hasn't even started and it's make or break for their idea.

One thing I will be interested to see is whether UEFA also keep their eye on the Red Bull teams in Salzburg and Leipzig.

Barca has the biggest wage bill in football. They cannot afford it and keep relying on bank loans to bail them out. Thats why they have a shirt sponsor now.
It will be interesting what happens next time, now the banks are struggling and unemployment is going through the roof. At some point people are going to say enough is enough. Make the players pay there taxes (very generous tax breaks if your a foreign footballer) and stop giving them money. The spanish government may be unwilling to say that, but it may not be upto them.

The money has to come from somewhere and the tax breaks the foreigners get has to be a priority option, then we'll see how many of these players dream to play for Real or Barca.

Those two clubs get the bulk of the TV rights and still can't balance their finances properly but it leaves the other teams struggling. At some point UEFA have to place a transfer embargo on these teams. It's ridiculous that a team with no money is signing €60m bench warmers. The Spanish clubs and players should go on strike against Barca and Real. Imagine a season where every team refused to play them?

I read 10 years ago that Real had to sell a lot of their training facilities to finance the Zidane deal but then the local municipalities sold it back to them at a knock down price, it's a joke and the entire Spanish set up is crooked.

I'm interested to see what UEFA do but I'm not confident they'll come down hard on either of them.

 

[boxhead]

It is a sad state of affairs and even I think that something needs to be done about it. The change needs to be gradual though, I think action needs to be taken immediately but if a lot of the world's football fans don't want to be alienated, and the clubs actually allowed to survive, it could take a few years.

As much as it pains me to say it though, if it does become necessary, I would see some of those suggestions put into effect.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

It's not a sad state of affairs it's a case of gross inflation.

13 of the 25 highest transfer fees of all time have happened in the last 3 years. Real Madrid had 4 of those in the same transfer window.

 

[boxhead]

It's not a sad state of affairs it's a case of gross inflation.

13 of the 25 highest transfer fees of all time have happened in the last 3 years. Real Madrid had 4 of those in the same transfer window.

I thin it is a sad state of affairs in general that clubs spend massive amounts of money which they don't really have to basically stockpile the best talent in the world. Real and now City are the biggest examples of this. Players like Canales, Adebayor should all play regular first eleven football. The financial situation for the other clubs in Spain, regarding the tv rights and money is also evidence that the FFP needs to come into effect soon and actually be enforced. Nasri going to City will be an example of this, not to mention Aguero as well. And Real are no better for spending ridiculous money on bench warmers - although Sahin should start with Alonso. But then that situation escalates when Gago, Diarra, Khedira and so on are sitting around. I just don't like the way it is, I think it is sad when Cesc Fabregas, one of the best players in the world, is going to be sitting on the bench for most games.