WA BEARS

[MugaB]

Where’s the Bears talent?

Good question... feeding the roosters i suppose... either way they are playing at a level just below nrl standard, to suggest perth can do that right now would be laughable

 

[Perth Red]

Good question... feeding the roosters i suppose... either way they are playing at a level just below nrl standard, to suggest perth can do that right now would be laughable

How many of the Bears NSW cup team are from NS area, and how many are Roosters contracted? All Bears does for us is allow us to sign players to try out/develop at those levels without having to move West. A positive for sure but something we could just as easily get with a partnership with other 2nd tier clubs, without taking on the identity of the club.

 

[Smug Panther]

I can't see I single downside to the Perth Bears as long as all home games are in Perth (Apart from this whinging pommy merkin getting a side).

 

[Perth Red]

I can't see I single downside to the Perth Bears as long as all home games are in Perth (Apart from this whinging pommy merkin getting a side).

Thats because you're an idiot who doesnt have a clue about perth lol

 

[MugaB]

contracted to the Roosters lol.
For years all Ive been hearing is that no one plays RL in NS anymore. Now suddenly they are some sort of Penrith powerhouse of jnr talent? Please.

I don't think anyone thinks that... Penrith are so far ahead in terms of juniors its made the government have to spend on COE for the other teams.... which is a waste of time if you aren't hiring the right staff to manage those coes...
Back to perth tho... the arlc are going to want to see the talent there... they wont hand out a license to a dot on a map, you need to be able to give the competition something back, not just take

 

[Smug Panther]

Thats because you're an idiot who doesnt have a clue about perth lol

Small country town with overpriced beer. I've been there mate

 

[Perth Red]

I don't think anyone thinks that... Penrith are so far ahead in terms of juniors its made the government have to spend on COE for the other teams.... which is a waste of time if you aren't hiring the right staff to manage those coes...
Back to perth tho... the arlc are going to want to see the talent there... they wont hand out a license to a dot on a map, you need to be able to give the competition something back, not just take

Which isnt a problem if we have an in principal agreement with a QRL or NSW cup club or two in the bid. Bears arent the only side in the 2nd tier we could partner with lol.
I think what NRL will be more interested in (or at least they certainly should be!) is which bid can show how it will be investing in WA pathways so we get new talent from a new market into the game. WA gives that potential given we have talent playing and we are producing NRL players already. We produce current talent on less than $1mill a year NRLWA funding for the whole state and every grassroots program. Imagine what we could deliver investing $2mill just in elite programs!

There's an argument that Bears are much better served as Roosters feeder region than moving into a different market.

 

[MugaB]

I can't see I single downside to the Perth Bears as long as all home games are in Perth (Apart from this whinging pommy merkin getting a side).

Thats what i keep saying... its amazing how stubborn PR is regarding the possibility of these bears leaving town... they haven't even been there yet... complex?

 

[Vee]

Sorry for having an opinion and actually being positive about an WA Bears team. I believe it could and would work and not everybody is out to destroy others.
I’m glad I’m not related to you, geez imagine when your parents die, could/would your siblings trust you.

TBF, it is based on what the Bears have said all along.

 

[MugaB]

Which isnt a problem if we have an in principal agreement with a QRL or NSW cup club or two in the bid. Bears arent the only side in the 2nd tier we could partner with lol.
I think what NRL will be more interested in (or at least they certainly should be!) is which bid can show how it will be investing in WA pathways so we get new talent from a new market into the game. WA gives that potential given we have talent playing and we are producing NRL players already.

All good, but ARLC likes the bears brand too... just not their location

What you are suggesting can happen in png, nz or sa aswell... they don't want to pay for it

 

[Wb1234]

You’ll be giving WC kids an option to take up RL. Build it and they will come.

Whose paying for it ?

The afl have built it in Sydney and qld

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and they haven’t come

and the storm are hardly generating many juniors either

 

[Perth Red]

All good, but ARLC likes the bears brand too... just not their location

true and thats a big concern with Vlandys in charge of the decision, they'll choose whats best through a Sydney lens once again rather than what's actually best for the sport.

 

[Perth Red]

Thats what i keep saying... its amazing how stubborn PR is regarding the possibility of these bears leaving town... they haven't even been there yet... complex?

Hang on you've been equally critical of the Bears non-negotiables lol.
You know full well I'm not totally against a WA Bears club, but that it has to be under the right conditions, and at the moment the Bears conditions are not right or even close to it.

 

[MugaB]

true and thats a big concern with Vlandys in charge of the decision, they'll choose whats best through a Sydney lens once again rather than what's actually best for the sport.

Its not about sydney... its about not creating handouts, if perth created its own club ran it its own way, pathways etc (akin to a club like redcliffe, easts, penrith) they would certainly be interested in giving out a license... but your not.. and just whinge about national presence, lack of funding, wheres my team... yadda yadda yadda
Build it already... this awaiting a handout sounds like AFL...

 

[MugaB]

Hang on you've been equally critical of the Bears non-negotiables lol.
You know full well I'm not totally against a WA Bears club, but that it has to be under the right conditions, and at the moment the Bears conditions are not right or even close to it.

Im not critical, just my personal opinion is that perth deserves minimum 10-12 games a season, nso isn't fit for NRL games, but SFS is litterally over the bridge.. im not pushing my view to the point where it should all blow up if they dont follow my lead or thought process..
Either way bears should have the license

 

[Perth Red]

Its not about sydney... its about not creating handouts, if perth created its own club ran it its own way, pathways etc (akin to a club like redcliffe, easts, penrith) they would certainly be interested in giving out a license... but your not.. and just whinge about national presence, lack of funding, yadda yadda yadda

you do understand that they only can do because they have pokies dont you? That isnt an option here and sports clubs have to be funded other ways. To even have had an SG ball running for so long is a big deal for us given how underfunded RL is here. And yes it is the ARLC job, its in their constitution, to grow the game at all levels across Australia.

Lets be honest NRl cant invest in growth like AFL because it has been terrible at increasing its revenue in the same way as them. $2billion revenue difference in ten years. Just let that sink in and ponder on how different the RL landscape would be with an avg $200mill a year to spend.
Now consider that in a couple of years that gap will be $400million plus A YEAR.
NRl management failure since it became independent is why we cant invest large sums in grassroots nationally and why we cant invest in launching a WA club the right way and why a risk averse skint NRL will probably make a sht choice like the Bears for club 18.

 

[siv]

I agree the Blacktown partnership is a waste of time. Gosford/the CC is a small market compared to the North Shore. A combined North Shore and Northern Beaches team that’s done right would be far richer and stronger than trying to do a split Northern Beaches/Central Coast arrangement.

Leave Manly on the peninsula

CC Bears will address North Shore & CC

 

[westerntiger]

Any Perth team should be called ‘Perth’ not west coast, western, California or anything else

 

[Colk]

Small country town with overpriced beer. I've been there mate

Beer is pretty much overpriced everywhere. It’s nearly $10 a schooner where I live. Perth is ridiculous though

 

[Perth Red]

Beer is pretty much overpriced everywhere. It’s nearly $10 a schooner where I live. Perth is ridiculous though

My local: Happy hour $6 a pint with a view to die for. We are very blessed.