WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

Still in Sydney as opposed to Western Australia

Yep and like I said not at their home ground

I can imagine bears vs panthers getting 10k bears fans making the trek out west

 

[Canard]

Yeh and still they want to play home games at nso

the away games aren’t going to be played there

Being able to see your team play in Sydney for the first time in 25 years would be a great outcome for a diehard fan surely?

Adding more games to an already congested Sydney market and playing them at a run down suburban oval in front of small crowds, doesn't make any sense, other than appealing to nostalgia

 

[MugaB]

Yep and like I said not at their home ground

I can imagine bears vs panthers getting 10k bears fans making the trek out west

Well its no different than panthers vs cowboys
Any objections from the cowboys for not getting any nso games???

Not sure why you think they deserve any games at nso... they are vying for 18th licence to be the perth team

 

[MugaB]

Being able to see your team play in Sydney for the first time in 25 years would be a great outcome for a diehard fan surely?

Adding more games to an already congested Sydney market and playing them at a run down suburban oval in front of small crowds, doesn't make any sense, other than appealing to nostalgia

Its why i said play them annually there as trials

 

[Wb1234]

Being able to see your team play in Sydney for the first time in 25 years would be a great outcome for a diehard fan surely?

Adding more games to an already congested Sydney market and playing them at a run down suburban oval in front of small crowds, doesn't make any sense, other than appealing to nostalgia

Yep it sure would

having 2 games at year at your spiritual base would be even more amazing

side benefit would be getting loads more fans from the north shore following league

but yeh let’s just ignore what is amongst the richest areas in Australia

then wonder why we have poor corporate support

 

[Wb1234]

Well its no different than panthers vs cowboys
Any objections from the cowboys for not getting any nso games???

Not sure why you think they deserve any games at nso... they are vying for 18th licence to be the perth team

No they are applying as a bears franchise and part of that is going to be some home games at nso

that’s just a given

if you don’t like it email vlandys and tell him not to do it I’m sure he will listen to you and others on here saying this

 

[Wb1234]

I’m sure bears vs manly and bears vs Chooks wouldve otherwise got massive crowds in Perth instead of nso

(or nz2 whoever gets it)

how will the people of Perth cope not getting to see manly at home

 

[Canard]

Yep it sure would

having 2 games at year at your spiritual base would be even more amazing

side benefit would be getting loads more fans from the north shore following league

but yeh let’s just ignore what is amongst the richest areas in Australia

then wonder why we have poor corporate support

Since 1957 North Sydney average crowd was 7800

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /North Sydney

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

That doesn't make a compelling case for re-admittance.

Squeezing another team and extra games into an already saturated market, doesn't strike me as a way to increase corporate support either.

 

[reanimate]

No they are applying as a bears franchise and part of that is going to be some home games at nso

that’s just a given

if you don’t like it email vlandys and tell him not to do it I’m sure he will listen to you and others on here saying this

Why is it a given? The Swans didn’t play home games in Melbourne after signing up to move. If the Bears are signing up to be our Perth team, they have to be our Perth team.

I’m sure bears vs manly and bears vs Chooks wouldve otherwise got massive crowds in Perth instead of nso

(or nz2 whoever gets it)

how will the people of Perth cope not getting to see manly at home

That’s the logic that will be used to white ant the WA Bears. People will cherry pick games where Perth is playing in the rain at home with a small crowd while it’s sunny in Sydney and start whining that the Bears could be playing at a packed NSO in the sunshine.

 

[Colk]

Yep it sure would

having 2 games at year at your spiritual base would be even more amazing

side benefit would be getting loads more fans from the north shore following league

but yeh let’s just ignore what is amongst the richest areas in Australia

then wonder why we have poor corporate support

Would you hold the same opinion of this proposal if they became the second NZ team or it was as an additional Qld side instead of Perth

If these games at NSO were away games sure it is workable but playing home games in Sydney as a Perth/WA side or a NZ side etc makes no sense at all

 

[Perth Red]

'THE' FIFO Bears. No thanks

 

[Wb1234]

Why is it a given? The Swans didn’t play home games in Melbourne after signing up to move. If the Bears are signing up to be our Perth team, they have to be our Perth team.

That’s the logic that will be used to white ant the WA Bears. People will cherry pick games where Perth is playing in the rain at home with a small crowd while it’s sunny in Sydney and start whining that the Bears could be playing at a packed NSO in the sunshine.

It’s a shame your concern for Perth being white anted doesn’t apply to the bears

 

[Wb1234]

Would you hold the same opinion of this proposal if they became the second NZ team or it was as an additional Qld side instead of Perth

If these games at NSO were away games sure it is workable but playing home games in Sydney as a Perth/WA side or a NZ side etc makes no sense at all

I would if it was nz

maybe even qld too

I’m actually worried it’s going to be four games at nso when one or two is plenty

 

[Wb1234]

Nice try but I think GWS is a joke of a model. Why would we want to follow that?

If we are going to follow a model of theirs I would be copying the Swans (btw that is not what the Bears are suggesting)

So gws is a joke ?

lmao but Gillion backs them with ever increasing funds

 

[Wb1234]

Since 1957 North Sydney average crowd was 7800

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /North Sydney

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

That doesn't make a compelling case for re-admittance.

Squeezing another team and extra games into an already saturated market, doesn't strike me as a way to increase corporate support either.

Looking at Sydney crowds pre 90s isn’t very helpful

they’ve grown hugely since the nrl started

 

[King-Gutho94]

Looking back during and after the Super League War, what should've happened:

*Parramatta and Balmain merge
*Canterbury and Wests merge
*Norths or Manly relocate to Central Coast
*Norths or Manly stay in Sydney and represent the whole of north sydney which includes the lower north shore and nothern beaches.

At the moment, the Wests Tigers are living a nomadic life, while Manly are only a representing a certain area. Central Coast has no team. And on a rugby league website, League Unlimited, there is a thread called "WA Bears"

Things could have been different.

Balamin was discussed as a merger with parramatta but they would have been the weaker side of the merger in the late 90s.

So it never got off the ground.

They grabbed wests instead so they had the power. Ironically now Wests have the power.

 

[Colk]

I would if it was nz

maybe even qld too

I’m actually worried it’s going to be four games at nso when one or two is plenty

One would be max (gritted teeth). Any further games should be away. I’m hoping that sanity prevails though

 

[Colk]

So gws is a joke ?

lmao but Gillion backs them with ever increasing funds

Good on them. They have the money to do that.

Nevertheless that is not what is happening here. The Bears proposal is akin to the Swans or Lions taking games away from Sydney or Brisbane to gratify 50 or 60 year old South Melbourne or Fitzroy supporters.

 

[MugaB]

One would be max (gritted teeth). Any further games should be away. I’m hoping that sanity prevails though

Pvl = whatever suits rugba lieg
Sanity = has got nothin to do with it

 

[Canard]

Looking at Sydney crowds pre 90s isn’t very helpful

they’ve grown hugely since the nrl started

North Sydney's crowds were never anything but very mediocre though, right up until the end of their existence.