WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

Who cares, theyve both one a GF each... parra hasn't one since '86, warriors and titans have never... are we picking and choosing success or are you just stubborn coz you dont want to adopt an existing clubs brand

Feed em buddy feed em

 

[Perth Red]

I think national reserve grade will be in beforehand. So there would be no north Sydney in reserve grade.

Yes there is that as well. Really all NS or a partnership with other current second grade clubs would offer is Jnr pathways into that Perth reserve grade side. More and more we are seeing a seperation from Jnrs to NRL with kids moving anywhere they can get a shot.

 

[Bukowski]

Probably like anyone who understands Perth he know that a FIFO NS Bears playing in Perth will be a disaster in the making. A West Coast Bears owned by WA and 100% based in WA, now thats a different proposition.

100%.
I'm a Wests fan, I've put up with over 20years of a merger. It doesn't work

 

[Pneuma]

Yeah, no shit. Do we really want three dodgy merged clubs? You can't tell me saints and wests are great clubs/ business models

I can’t even work out what St George’s identity is anymore. They don’t really have a player base in Sydney. It’s in the Illawarra. For a club with a reputedly huge supporter base they play out of a pretty awful ground in Sydney which is rarely three quarters full. As for wests tigers where do you start? How many grounds are they playing out of this year? At least they have huge potential for growth. Apart from moving to the Illawarra permanently I can’t see what St George can do. Maybe play a couple of big games out of the SFS but the rest in the Gong?

 

[Perth Red]

There both basket cases. Id be happy with a full relocation . Is an NRL team offering to do that?

No! What Bears are offering is nothing like that. They either need to change their expectations or remain in the wilderness and we will go it alone. Perth will be in with our without Bears eventually. In a country as small as Australia you cant afford to ignore a wealthy 10% of its population and not expose your product to them.

 

[Wb1234]

I can’t even work out what St George’s identity is anymore. They don’t really have a player base in Sydney. It’s in the Illawarra. For a club with a reputedly huge supporter base they play out of a pretty awful ground in Sydney which is rarely three quarters full. As for wests tigers where do you start? How many grounds are they playing out of this year? At least they have huge potential for growth. Apart from moving to the Illawarra permanently I can’t see what St George can do. Maybe play a couple of big games out of the SFS but the rest in the Gong?

9 games gong 3 games sfs

blow up kogarah or sell for development

they have loads of juniors in Illawarra thibk it’s like 3k

 

[Perth Red]

9 games gong 3 games sfs

blow up kogarah or sell for development

they have loads of juniors in Illawarra thibk it’s like 3k

There's not enough corporates in Wollongong and crowds of 11k at 9 games aren't going to pay the bills.

 

[Bukowski]

I can’t even work out what St George’s identity is anymore. They don’t really have a player base in Sydney. It’s in the Illawarra. For a club with a reputedly huge supporter base they play out of a pretty awful ground in Sydney which is rarely three quarters full. As for wests tigers where do you start? How many grounds are they playing out of this year? At least they have huge potential for growth. Apart from moving to the Illawarra permanently I can’t see what St George can do. Maybe play a couple of big games out of the SFS but the rest in the Gong?

They have really killed off their own brands

 

[MugaB]

There is nothing Bears offer in that Dept that a partnership with Newton, Easts Tigers or one of the other NSWRL/QRL cups cant offer.

WA development is a whole different kettle of fish.

Nice strawman argument there.

Again with this strawman argument BS, you got a rose colored pirate patch on, no one is going to team up with perth all the way to the other side of this continent, just to feed you juniors, without geting some ownership, no way will bears or newtown, easts tigers, etc ... now that the arlc are looking at club bids, the 2bd tier clubs know they are in with a chance to be part of a 1st grade competition, fancy a bid team from perth asking for your team for a few years while we get ourselves standing upright... there we go thanks for all that, now we got our own pathway, you may now f**k off back to whence you came from... fk that, if they are risking their cattle and the money theyve put into developing them, theyd want the license and the team, a true partnership, not juniors for hire

 

[Bukowski]

9 games gong 3 games sfs

blow up kogarah or sell for development

they have loads of juniors in Illawarra thibk it’s like 3k

Don't perth have 4k juniors?

 

[MugaB]

I think national reserve grade will be in beforehand. So there would be no north Sydney in reserve grade.

Yeah....nah... pipe dream

 

[Bukowski]

Again with this strawman argument BS, you got a rose colored pirate patch on, no one is going to team up with perth all the way to the other side of this continent, just to feed you juniors, without geting some ownership, no way will bears or newtown, easts tigers, etc ... now that the arlc are looking at club bids, the 2bd tier clubs know they are in with a chance to be part of a 1st grade competition, fancy a bid team from perth asking for your team for a few years while we get ourselves standing upright... there we go thanks for all that, now we got our own pathway, you may now f**k off back to whence you came from... fk that, if they are risking their cattle and the money theyve put into developing them, theyd want the license and the team, a true partnership, not juniors for hire

They'll take the money like they take Melbourne's money. Like norths took Souths and the chooks money, they need it. And if there in no national reserve grade team they will happily take the squad members not playing NRL that week.

 

[MugaB]

Don't perth have 4k juniors?

In a city of over 2 million, vs Wollongongs 300k...
They'd better be fkng good juniors on that ratio

 

[Perth Red]

Again with this strawman argument BS, you got a rose colored pirate patch on, no one is going to team up with perth all the way to the other side of this continent, just to feed you juniors, without geting some ownership, no way will bears or newtown, easts tigers, etc ... now that the arlc are looking at club bids, the 2bd tier clubs know they are in with a chance to be part of a 1st grade competition, fancy a bid team from perth asking for your team for a few years while we get ourselves standing upright... there we go thanks for all that, now we got our own pathway, you may now f**k off back to whence you came from... fk that, if they are risking their cattle and the money theyve put into developing them, theyd want the license and the team, a true partnership, not juniors for hire

lol, when you start comparing Ayres rock to WA then yeh your credibility heads out the window!

Oh you know that for fact? Id think a team up with an NRl club (regardless of location) once many of them lose their current relationships due to reserve grade would be very attractive to keep a second tier club relevant.

Yeh fancy that, its not like any NRL club hasnt had that arrangement with a second tier club before is it? Oh hang on lol
Yeh I can see that the Falcons, for example, are demanding ownership of the Storm. What planet are you on???

 

[MugaB]

They'll take the money like they take Melbourne's money. Like norths took Souths and the chooks money, they need it.

They needed the pathway, money is secondary..
Clubs now can link up with many other clubs, that aren't facing the indian ocean

 

[Pneuma]

9 games gong 3 games sfs

blow up kogarah or sell for development

they have loads of juniors in Illawarra thibk it’s like 3k

Pretty much what you say. Player numbers in the gong and surround region are very high and much more than 3000.

 

[MugaB]

lol, when you start comparing Ayres rock to WA then yeh your credibility heads out the window!

Oh you know that for fact? Id think a team up with an NRl club (regardless of location) once many of them lose their current relationships due to reserve grade would be very attractive to keep a second tier club relevant.

Yeh fancy that, its not like any NRL club hasnt had that arrangement with a second tier club before is it? Oh hang on lol
Yeh I can see that the Falcons, for example, are demanding ownership of the Storm. What planet are you on???

So which came first the bid of the storm to enter the league or the partnership with norths or falcons?

 

[Wb1234]

In a city of over 2 million, vs Wollongongs 300k...
They'd better be fkng good juniors on that ratio

Got a good giggle out of that one

 

[Perth Red]

So which came first the bid of the storm to enter the league or the partnership with norths or falcons?

wtf has that to do with it? No second tier club in a realtionship with an NRL club is demanding ownership lol.
Perth win the bid, and have a pathway structure on the east coast with established second tier club/clubs. Its not rocket science! Why would they you ask? Money and opportunity. With a direct pathway kids want to play for them. Why would they choose perth over another NRL club? Well there isnt enough NRL clubs for them all to have one each. NS are about to lose Roosters. Not seeing anyone rush in to fill that void??

 

[Wb1234]

Pretty much what you say. Player numbers in the gong and surround region are very high and much more than 3000.

Kogarah as a home ground doesn’t mean so much for the dragons

during the halycon days they played most of their home games as the Sunday match of the round at the scg

once clubs see how good the corporate facilities are at allianz I expect more clubs to move home games vs roosters and south’s there

other grounds aren’t in the same league financially