WA BEARS

[Iamback]

lol, when you start comparing Ayres rock to WA then yeh your credibility heads out the window!

Oh you know that for fact? Id think a team up with an NRl club (regardless of location) once many of them lose their current relationships due to reserve grade would be very attractive to keep a second tier club relevant.

Yeh fancy that, its not like any NRL club hasnt had that arrangement with a second tier club before is it? Oh hang on lol
Yeh I can see that the Falcons, for example, are demanding ownership of the Storm. What planet are you on???

When the Storm see sense and run their own NSW Cup team to go with Flegg/SG Ball. Then what for the Falcons?

hence why teams will want to be part of it

 

[Colk]

So which three states have the biggest economy?!

Haha you really are trying your best.

GDP per capita is frankly the best way to determine how strong an economy is and the relative chances/potential of someone investing in that area. There are other factors of course - size of the population, what you are investing in et al. But obviously the higher the disposable income the greater potential of somebody investing in your product.

Below is the list of the top 25 countries by GDP. Now would you say that Mexico and Brazil have a stronger economy than say Switzerland or Ireland. They have a bigger economy sure but do they have a stronger economy because by your rationale you would say they would

The Top 25 Economies in the World

Learn which countries are among the top 25 economies in the world. The United States has had the largest GDP for over a century, but China's has grown rapidly.

www.investopedia.com

Now essentially your argument is that because their gross GDP is less than Qld, NSW or Victoria, despite the fact that their population is half and in NSW’s case approximately one third, that they have a ‘weaker’ economy. In order for WA to have the same nominal GDP as say Queensland or Victoria or even NSW their GDP per capita would have to be twice or in the case of NSW three times more then those other states. That is in no ways realistic is it?

The fact that they have a decent size population which is growing, coupled with the fact that they have the highest GDP per capita in Australia (by a fair distance) suggests to me that it is a good place to invest. Plenty of others share that sentiment. If you don’t, that’s fine but don’t suggest these inane and frankly disingenuous arguments as a reason not to.

 

[Vee]

This is the most pointless & boring line of chat on this forum

That's a pretty high bar, worthy of acclaim.

 

[Iamback]

So which came first the bid of the storm to enter the league or the partnership with norths or falcons?

Storm in their 25 years

Have had their own reserve grade team
Central Coast
Bears
Had a weird setup merger with Sharks in reserve grade
Sunshine Coast and East

 

[Pippen94]

Haha you really are trying your best.

GDP per capita is frankly the best way to determine how strong an economy is and the relative chances/potential of someone investing in that area. There are other factors of course - size of the population, what you are investing in et al. But obviously the higher the disposable income the greater potential of somebody investing in your product.

Below is the list of the top 25 countries by GDP. Now would you say that Mexico and Brazil have a stronger economy than say Switzerland or Ireland. They have a bigger economy sure but do they have a stronger economy because by your rationale you would say they would

The Top 25 Economies in the World

Learn which countries are among the top 25 economies in the world. The United States has had the largest GDP for over a century, but China's has grown rapidly.

www.investopedia.com

Now essentially your argument is that because their gross GDP is less than Qld, NSW or Victoria, despite the fact that their population is half and in NSW’s case approximately one third, that they have a ‘weaker’ economy. In order for WA to have the same nominal GDP as say Queensland or Victoria or even NSW their GDP per capita would have to be twice or in the case of NSW three times more then those other states. That is in no ways realistic is it?

The fact that they have a decent size population which is growing, coupled with the fact that they have the highest GDP per capita in Australia (by a fair distance) suggests to me that it is a good place to invest. Plenty of others share that sentiment. If you don’t, that’s fine but don’t suggest these inane and frankly disingenuous arguments as a reason not to.

So let me answer the question u avoided; the biggest economy's in Australia by state are NSW (by some distance), Victoria & then qld. That's why afl will put third team in qld long before they do want.
Thank u

 

[Iamback]

Pretty much what you say. Player numbers in the gong and surround region are very high and much more than 3000.

This has a pretty good breakdown for all of NSW

NSWRL celebrates birthday with record growth

The NSWRL is pleased to announce record growth for Rugby League across the state in 2021 as the organisation celebrates its 114th birthday today.

www.nswrl.com.au

Crunching the numbers: how NSWRL achieved record growth

- Balmain Junior Rugby League – 2053 participants from 1605 in 2019; Carlingford Cougars fielding an open aged team for first time in 15 years;

- St George Junior Rugby League – 1675 participants from 1255 in 2019 which is their highest male participation in six years;

- Manly Junior Rugby League – 2461 participants from 2080 in 2019;

- North Sydney Junior Rugby league – 1670 participants from 1149 in 2019;

- Parramatta Sunday JRL – 519 participants from 381 in 2019;

- Penrith and District JRL – 8769 participants from 8517 in 2019;

- Group 10 JRL – 2556 participants from 2201 in 2019;

- Group 11 JRL – 2814 participants from 2538 in 2019;

- Canberra Juniors – 4266 participants from 3720 in 2019;

- Central Coast Junior Rugby League – 4804 participants from 4214 in 2019;

- Central Coast Seniors – 1185 participants from 890 in 2019;

- Newcastle Junior Rugby League – 4339 participants from 4133 in 2019;

- Maitland and District Junior Rugby League – 2319 participants from 2266 in 2019;

- East Coast Region (Group 2, Group 3, Hastings League, Northern Rivers, Group 1 and Group 18) recording 10115 participants from 9680 in 2019.

- Newcastle and Hunter Rugby League – 1992 participants from 1896 in 2019:

- Western Riverina – 250 participants from 143 in 2019 with six teams taking part and each town hosting a triple header throughout the season, operating inaugural women’s tackle comp parallel to the League;

- Canowindra Junior Rugby League – 137 participants from 90 in 2019 with the community celebrating their centenary this season.

 

[Colk]

So let me answer the question u avoided; the biggest economy's in Australia by state are NSW (by some distance), Victoria & then qld. That's why afl will put third team in qld long before they do want.
Thank u

I avoided the question because it was a dumb question which is the level of debate I expect from you.

I’m assuming also that you think that Mexico and Brazil are stronger economies than Switzerland and Ireland. Dumb dumb dumb

Also, me fail English. That is unpossible.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

This has a pretty good breakdown for all of NSW

NSWRL celebrates birthday with record growth

The NSWRL is pleased to announce record growth for Rugby League across the state in 2021 as the organisation celebrates its 114th birthday today.

www.nswrl.com.au

Crunching the numbers: how NSWRL achieved record growth

- Balmain Junior Rugby League – 2053 participants from 1605 in 2019; Carlingford Cougars fielding an open aged team for first time in 15 years;

- St George Junior Rugby League – 1675 participants from 1255 in 2019 which is their highest male participation in six years;

- Manly Junior Rugby League – 2461 participants from 2080 in 2019;

- North Sydney Junior Rugby league – 1670 participants from 1149 in 2019;

- Parramatta Sunday JRL – 519 participants from 381 in 2019;

- Penrith and District JRL – 8769 participants from 8517 in 2019;

- Group 10 JRL – 2556 participants from 2201 in 2019;

- Group 11 JRL – 2814 participants from 2538 in 2019;

- Canberra Juniors – 4266 participants from 3720 in 2019;

- Central Coast Junior Rugby League – 4804 participants from 4214 in 2019;

- Central Coast Seniors – 1185 participants from 890 in 2019;

- Newcastle Junior Rugby League – 4339 participants from 4133 in 2019;

- Maitland and District Junior Rugby League – 2319 participants from 2266 in 2019;

- East Coast Region (Group 2, Group 3, Hastings League, Northern Rivers, Group 1 and Group 18) recording 10115 participants from 9680 in 2019.

- Newcastle and Hunter Rugby League – 1992 participants from 1896 in 2019:

- Western Riverina – 250 participants from 143 in 2019 with six teams taking part and each town hosting a triple header throughout the season, operating inaugural women’s tackle comp parallel to the League;

- Canowindra Junior Rugby League – 137 participants from 90 in 2019 with the community celebrating their centenary this season.

Those figures are pretty impressive. I suspect part but certainly not all of the growth can be put down to the growth in the women`s game.
I wonder if we are starting to see the inclusion of Touch and particularly League-Tag in the numbers. Especially since the latter these days seems to be quite closely aligned with existing Rugby League clubs.
Given @Perth Red`s much trumpeted claims about the reductions in grass-roots spending the figures are certainly pretty heartening though.

 

[Wb1234]

This has a pretty good breakdown for all of NSW

NSWRL celebrates birthday with record growth

The NSWRL is pleased to announce record growth for Rugby League across the state in 2021 as the organisation celebrates its 114th birthday today.

www.nswrl.com.au

Crunching the numbers: how NSWRL achieved record growth

- Balmain Junior Rugby League – 2053 participants from 1605 in 2019; Carlingford Cougars fielding an open aged team for first time in 15 years;

- St George Junior Rugby League – 1675 participants from 1255 in 2019 which is their highest male participation in six years;

- Manly Junior Rugby League – 2461 participants from 2080 in 2019;

- North Sydney Junior Rugby league – 1670 participants from 1149 in 2019;

- Parramatta Sunday JRL – 519 participants from 381 in 2019;

- Penrith and District JRL – 8769 participants from 8517 in 2019;

- Group 10 JRL – 2556 participants from 2201 in 2019;

- Group 11 JRL – 2814 participants from 2538 in 2019;

- Canberra Juniors – 4266 participants from 3720 in 2019;

- Central Coast Junior Rugby League – 4804 participants from 4214 in 2019;

- Central Coast Seniors – 1185 participants from 890 in 2019;

- Newcastle Junior Rugby League – 4339 participants from 4133 in 2019;

- Maitland and District Junior Rugby League – 2319 participants from 2266 in 2019;

- East Coast Region (Group 2, Group 3, Hastings League, Northern Rivers, Group 1 and Group 18) recording 10115 participants from 9680 in 2019.

- Newcastle and Hunter Rugby League – 1992 participants from 1896 in 2019:

- Western Riverina – 250 participants from 143 in 2019 with six teams taking part and each town hosting a triple header throughout the season, operating inaugural women’s tackle comp parallel to the League;

- Canowindra Junior Rugby League – 137 participants from 90 in 2019 with the community celebrating their centenary this season.

I’ve been saying for ages we aren’t even close to maximum juniors in our heartlands and nz and png we have barely scratched the surface

 

[Iamback]

Those figures are pretty impressive. I suspect part but certainly not all of the growth can be put down to the growth in the women`s game.
I wonder if we are starting to see the inclusion of Touch and particularly League-Tag in the numbers. Especially since the latter these days seems to be quite closely aligned with existing Rugby League clubs.
Given @Perth Red`s much trumpeted claims about the reductions in grass-roots spending the figures are certainly pretty heartening though.

Having weight instead of Age groups too will see it grow more too

 

[Iamback]

I’ve been saying for ages we aren’t even close to maximum juniors in our heartlands and nz and png we have barely scratched the surface

That is starting to change with NRL Clubs heading into the regions/Pacific for talent

 

[Perth Red]

This has a pretty good breakdown for all of NSW

NSWRL celebrates birthday with record growth

The NSWRL is pleased to announce record growth for Rugby League across the state in 2021 as the organisation celebrates its 114th birthday today.

www.nswrl.com.au

Crunching the numbers: how NSWRL achieved record growth

- Balmain Junior Rugby League – 2053 participants from 1605 in 2019; Carlingford Cougars fielding an open aged team for first time in 15 years;

- St George Junior Rugby League – 1675 participants from 1255 in 2019 which is their highest male participation in six years;

- Manly Junior Rugby League – 2461 participants from 2080 in 2019;

- North Sydney Junior Rugby league – 1670 participants from 1149 in 2019;

- Parramatta Sunday JRL – 519 participants from 381 in 2019;

- Penrith and District JRL – 8769 participants from 8517 in 2019;

- Group 10 JRL – 2556 participants from 2201 in 2019;

- Group 11 JRL – 2814 participants from 2538 in 2019;

- Canberra Juniors – 4266 participants from 3720 in 2019;

- Central Coast Junior Rugby League – 4804 participants from 4214 in 2019;

- Central Coast Seniors – 1185 participants from 890 in 2019;

- Newcastle Junior Rugby League – 4339 participants from 4133 in 2019;

- Maitland and District Junior Rugby League – 2319 participants from 2266 in 2019;

- East Coast Region (Group 2, Group 3, Hastings League, Northern Rivers, Group 1 and Group 18) recording 10115 participants from 9680 in 2019.

- Newcastle and Hunter Rugby League – 1992 participants from 1896 in 2019:

- Western Riverina – 250 participants from 143 in 2019 with six teams taking part and each town hosting a triple header throughout the season, operating inaugural women’s tackle comp parallel to the League;

- Canowindra Junior Rugby League – 137 participants from 90 in 2019 with the community celebrating their centenary this season.

How have they defined "participants" ?

 

[Pneuma]

Those figures are pretty impressive. I suspect part but certainly not all of the growth can be put down to the growth in the women`s game.
I wonder if we are starting to see the inclusion of Touch and particularly League-Tag in the numbers. Especially since the latter these days seems to be quite closely aligned with existing Rugby League clubs.
Given @Perth Red`s much trumpeted claims about the reductions in grass-roots spending the figures are certainly pretty heartening though.

Interesting data. These are players listed as playing with clubs in their tackle and non tackle comps. If you go to the Play Rugby League you can see the lists of competitions and the associated clubs from under 6s to seniors. It does not include touch football or Oztag. It does include league tag. For Cronulla on its site all comps up to under 12s are listed on its page. Over 12 they are on the combined comps page. To find out how many teams play in Cronulla you need to go to each club page at the top of the site enter the individual clubs site and count their teams then add them all together. Takes time. Cronulla had 400 teams last year, and 5500 players. Averages out to about 14 players a team.

 

[mongoose]

surprised how high Manly and Balmain is compared to others... i really dont know how large these catchments are though

 

[Pneuma]

surprised how high Manly and Balmain is compared to others... i really dont know how large these catchments are though

Manly and Balmain include all participants through to Seniors. Some of the others are just juniors or seniors

 

[Pneuma]

Association: Cronulla/Sutherland JRL

Cronulla/Sutherland JRL's Competitions and Clubs

www.playrugbyleague.com

This is the sharks site. You’ll notice the comps included for 2022 up to under 12s and also include senior tag comps. The club sites are at the top. Go to De La Salle and check out the number of teams. Ridiculous. Gymea Gorillas well as others are huge.

 

[Perth Red]

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When the Storm see sense and run their own NSW Cup team to go with Flegg/SG Ball. Then what for the Falcons?

hence why teams will want to be part of it

You think NRLVic are ever going to get funded enough to have enough Jnrs playing the game in Vic for Storm not to need a partnership in another state? You're an optimist for sure.

 

[Pippen94]

I avoided the question because it was a dumb question which is the level of debate I expect from you.

I’m assuming also that you think that Mexico and Brazil are stronger economies than Switzerland and Ireland. Dumb dumb dumb

Also, me fail English. That is unpossible.

Did you look that up in ur latest edition of encyclopedia Britannica?! Such a try hard thinks looking down on wiki makes you look like an intellectual. Dickhead pretends he's using published papers for forum debate.

Yeah, qld has greater population with bigger economy. If wa is such an advantage for afl why don't they have 9 teams there instead of Melbourne?!
I'll answer question you'll avoid; because per capita means shit & Vic the bigger & more lucrative economy.

 

[Iamback]

Manly and Balmain include all participants through to Seniors. Some of the others are just juniors or seniors

Parra is perfect example, Only counts u16's up that play on a Sunday

 

[Wb1234]

Parra is perfect example, Only counts u16's up that play on a Sunday

Lucky it’s not for over 16s cause Mitch wouldn’t get counted