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The Great Dane

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Kind of agree but from a business point of view it might make sense. If nslc is willing to pay for the privilege and it helps drive Sydney memberships to a worthwhile amount then it might make business sense to do it.
Aside from rent, why would they pay for the privilege to have their own team play out of the ground of their choosing? Whom would they even pay? Themselves lol!

You're on another planet if you think there's any reasonable possibility of the Bears forming a joint venture with a Perth based consortium where they aren't either majority stakeholders, or at a stretch, 50/50 split of the club but they hold the license.

Either way, they'd be calling the shots, there'd be nothing stopping them playing as many games as they wish at NSO, and they wouldn't really give two shits about the impact it'd have on Perth or the sport more broadly.

BTW, f**k Sydney memberships. Split home clubs are f**king commercial cancer. You're either a Perth club or a Sydney club, you can't be both at the same time to the best of your ability. In trying you'll only achieve being nothing to everybody, or in the Bears case a Sydney club with a token presence in Perth until they can justify cutting themselves loose of that burden.
 

Perth Red

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Aside from rent, why would they pay for the privilege to have their own team play out of the ground of their choosing? Whom would they even pay? Themselves lol!

You're on another planet if you think there's any reasonable possibility of the Bears forming a joint venture with a Perth based consortium where they aren't either majority stakeholders, or at a stretch, 50/50 split of the club but they hold the license.

Either way, they'd be calling the shots, there'd be nothing stopping them playing as many games as they wish at NSO, and they wouldn't really give two shits about the impact it'd have on Perth or the sport more broadly.

BTW, f**k Sydney memberships. Split home clubs are f**king commercial cancer. You're either a Perth club or a Sydney club, you can't be both at the same time to the best of your ability. In trying you'll only achieve being nothing to everybody, or in the Bears case a Sydney club with a token presence in Perth until they can justify cutting themselves loose of that burden.
That comment was based on the bears being owned by a WA consortium, not by the nsfc. They want a game in Sydney, then like other teams who take games on the road it needs to be paid for.

I dont think they will at all, it’s incredibly unlikely based on what we’ve heard so far from them. They would need to change dramatically to make it happen, maybe as they realise it’s not going to happen otherwise it might, but I doubt it.

that’s why the license and majority ownership must sit with the WA consortium. Not the nsfc. It will be a recipe for disaster if it ends up being owned by NS and why I wouldn’t bother supporting them With any fervour.

Tbf I don’t think we’ve had this scenario before in rl so Bit unfair to predict what may or may not happen. I can see it could work and tbh no business is going to turn away the opportunity for a potential 10k customers. Swans and lions still hold a healthy membership base in melbourne and are no longer seen as a split city club.
 

The Penguin #6.

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BTW, f**k Sydney memberships. Split home clubs are f**king commercial cancer. You're either a Perth club or a Sydney club, you can't be both at the same time to the best of your ability. In trying you'll only achieve being nothing to everybody, or in the Bears case a Sydney club with a token presence in Perth until they can justify cutting themselves loose of that burden.
I`m starting to wonder whether this is at the heart of the problem with our two merged Sydney teams. Even that god-awful Wests Tigers jumper never looks right, just some bastard hybridisation of two once iconic jumpers.
 

Perth Red

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I`m starting to wonder whether this is at the heart of the problem with our two merged Sydney teams. Even that god-awful Wests Tigers jumper never looks right, just some bastard hybridisation of two once iconic jumpers.
A merger is quite a different scenario to a genuine relocation.
 

Canard

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That comment was based on the bears being owned by a WA consortium, not by the nsfc. They want a game in Sydney, then like other teams who take games on the road it needs to be paid for.

I dont think they will at all, it’s incredibly unlikely based on what we’ve heard so far from them. They would need to change dramatically to make it happen, maybe as they realise it’s not going to happen otherwise it might, but I doubt it.

that’s why the license and majority ownership must sit with the WA consortium. Not the nsfc. It will be a recipe for disaster if it ends up being owned by NS and why I wouldn’t bother supporting them With any fervour.

Tbf I don’t think we’ve had this scenario before in rl so Bit unfair to predict what may or may not happen. I can see it could work and tbh no business is going to turn away the opportunity for a potential 10k customers. Swans and lions still hold a healthy membership base in melbourne and are no longer seen as a split city club.

But those teams don't play "home games" in Melbourne, because they realise that there Melb based fans have plenty of opportunity to see them play "away".

Lets be honest, Sydney will rationalise stadia within the next decade anyway, so the concept of a home or away game in Sydney will become meaningless and playing at NSO will be consigned pre-season only.
 

westerntiger

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I`m starting to wonder whether this is at the heart of the problem with our two merged Sydney teams. Even that god-awful Wests Tigers jumper never looks right, just some bastard hybridisation of two once iconic jumpers.
Both merged teams should be forced to pick one home ground in my opinion. The tigers also need to move on from appeasing two separate fan bases that haven't existed in their own right for nearly 25 years.
 

flippikat

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I`m starting to wonder whether this is at the heart of the problem with our two merged Sydney teams. Even that god-awful Wests Tigers jumper never looks right, just some bastard hybridisation of two once iconic jumpers.
The Tigers just haven't forged their own identity because there still seems to be a lot of uncertainty/conflict over what that should be - it doesn't help when the powerful Wests Ashfield faction are keen to emphasize black & white massively over orange in the jerseys and keep as much of the club as possible focused in the already-congested inner-west - two things that make the club blend--in with others instead of carving out it's own distinctive niche.

But I digress....
 

MugaB

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The Tigers just haven't forged their own identity because there still seems to be a lot of uncertainty/conflict over what that should be - it doesn't help when the powerful Wests Ashfield faction are keen to emphasize black & white massively over orange in the jerseys and keep as much of the club as possible focused in the already-congested inner-west - two things that make the club blend--in with others instead of carving out it's own distinctive niche.

But I digress....
They value their history, morso than thier actual branding... yes this year they've gone with the orange moreso, but thats only coz Liechardt are their 1st 2 rounds...
Ashfield and Concord are the Western Suburbs, since 1908, its now more inner west, and moreso now the centre of Sydney, which will change in a decade or so to parramatta the way the sprawl out west is happening, either way the wests tigers believe in the Magpies history morso than they do as being in campbelltown for a few token games..
Thats why the COE was built in concord, if they were to choose a proper stadium to play out of full time, i have no doubt it would be a redeveloped homebush, as its literally next door to their coe and st lukes oval
The magpies traditional oval
 

Perth Red

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But those teams don't play "home games" in Melbourne, because they realise that there Melb based fans have plenty of opportunity to see them play "away".

Lets be honest, Sydney will rationalise stadia within the next decade anyway, so the concept of a home or away game in Sydney will become meaningless and playing at NSO will be consigned pre-season only.
Not if pistol Pete has anything To do with it, tribalism is the thing don’t you know?

yeh it shouldnt be necessary but this is rugba league and we are generally fcking stupid when it comes to this sht. Listen to the nrl shows, you’d think it was the nswrl winfield cup still.
 

MugaB

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Not if pistol Pete has anything To do with it, tribalism is the thing don’t you know?

yeh it shouldnt be necessary but this is rugba league and we are generally fcking stupid when it comes to this sht. Listen to the nrl shows, you’d think it was the nswrl winfield cup still.
When there's still 10 NSW clubs in the comp, then yeah its the winfield cup, you forget you guys outside this comp were invited
 

docbrown

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Again depends on the conditions. I’m in if it’s the wa bears owned by wa. If it’s “the“ bears owned by ns, well makes it easier for me, I’ll just stick with my motorsport and catch the odd nrl game when it doesnt clash with my track time.
I honestly find it funny that you’d bitch endlessly about not having a team for decades and then when one finally comes you’d find another petty reason to bitch about it endlessly. I’m detecting a theme here…
 

docbrown

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Both merged teams should be forced to pick one home ground in my opinion. The tigers also need to move on from appeasing two separate fan bases that haven't existed in their own right for nearly 25 years.
I often wonder if that Oasis development at Liverpool would have helped the Tigers as well as the Bulldogs.
 

Perth Red

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Issue number 1. You’d wait 25+ years for a team and then not watch it for petty reasons.

That is all.
Again. your simplicity fails you. I won’t support a Sydney club playing in perth Beyond occasional interest when a particular game appeals to me.

Ns bears in perth will fail, sooner or later. I want no part in being complicit in that thank you.
Still will give nsw wankers more opportunity to say perth doesn’t work and failed twice lol.
 

docbrown

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Again. your simplicity fails you. I won’t support a Sydney club playing in perth Beyond occasional interest when a particular game appeals to me.

Ns bears in perth will fail, sooner or later. I want no part in being complicit in that thank you.
Still will give nsw wankers more opportunity to say perth doesn’t work and failed twice lol.
You won’t support the WA Bears because all you know how to do is bitch and moan endlessly.

I suspect even if another WA team comes in, you’ll still find a reason to complain endlessly. “The shade of red on the jersey is too bright so I hate them.” “The meat pies at the stadium burn the roof of my mouth so I can’t go the games.”
 

Perth Red

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You won’t support the WA Bears because all you know how to do is bitch and moan endlessly.

I suspect even if another WA team comes in, you’ll still find a reason to complain endlessly. “The shade of red on the jersey is too bright so I hate them.” “The meat pies at the stadium burn the roof of my mouth so I can’t go the games.”
Again your simplicity fails you. I will fully support a WA owned and based wa bears.

suspect what you like, you’re an idiot.
 
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You won’t support the WA Bears because all you know how to do is bitch and moan endlessly.

I suspect even if another WA team comes in, you’ll still find a reason to complain endlessly. “The shade of red on the jersey is too bright so I hate them.” “The meat pies at the stadium burn the roof of my mouth so I can’t go the games.”

This is a baseless personal attack.
 

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