WA BEARS

[Wb1234]

Looking at ns revenue, the fact they are a saturated jnr market for nrl talent and that their answer to the money issue is they have people who want to be owners of the club, not sponsors, im more and more inclined to a WA consortium looking to join forces with east tigers instead.
Easts have more money, stronger jnr base and I suspect wouldnt be hung up on the ownership, game day location and branding like bears are.
a partnership with easts, say 25% club ownership could work much better, firehawks wouldnt work so a new name both groups support would be needed. Orange and black is obviously taken so would need some unique colour scheme developing.

stumbling block is easts are probably feeling theyve got a chance at some point in the future of getting a nrl license so may not want to abandon dream to part own a WA club?

So norths owning it is a Trojan horse to move it back to Sydney but easts owning it they won’t want to do the same thing ?

lmao

 

[Perth Red]

So norths owning it is a Trojan horse to move it back to Sydney but easts owning it they won’t want to do the same thing ?

lmao

Maybe if I was suggesting easts own it, but that’s not what I said, in fact quite the opposite, With a 25%ownership share easts couldn’t move it anywhere.

and that’s the same % ownership share bears should get if we went that way. It’s the only way of safeguarding the license as a WA license.

 

[Wb1234]

Maybe if I was suggesting easts own it, but that’s not what I said, in fact quite the opposite, With a 25%ownership share easts couldn’t move it anywhere.

and that’s the same % ownership share bears should get if we went that way. It’s the only way of safeguarding the license as a WA license.

Well at least that’s consistent

 

[Perth Red]

Seems an inpass really at moment.

bears stated non negotiables
no brand change
no kit colour change
license owned by NS
unspecified number of “home” games to be held in Sydney (this has varied between (1-6)

what should be the WA consortium’s non negotiables

logo and name changed to represent WA/Perth
kit to include yellow/gold
license owned by WA
max 1 home game in Sydney. LC to purchase and have final say on who and what venue, also get sleeve sponsor. $1million a year contribution from the NSLC to the club for those two things.
Club based ft in perth


as you can see there’s quite a chasm between what I suspect both parties want to see. The deal breaker will be the license ownership imo. No way in the world nsfc should own the license.

 

[MugaB]

Seems an inpass really at moment.

bears stated non negotiables
no brand change
no kit colour change
license owned by NS
unspecified number of “home” games to be held in Sydney (this has varied between (1-6)

what should be the WA consortium’s non negotiables

logo and name changed to represent WA/Perth
kit to include yellow/gold
license owned by WA
max 1 home game in Sydney. LC to purchase and have final say on who and what venue, also get sleeve sponsor. $1million a year contribution from the NSLC to the club for those two things.
Club based ft in perth


as you can see there’s quite a chasm between what I suspect both parties want to see. The deal breaker will be the license ownership imo. No way in the world nsfc should own the license.

But they are the carrot, they hold that over the location, they know it, PVL knows it, time for you to realize that Perth isn't the draw card, its a mark, another notch on a belt, its not some expansion that will reap rewards

 

[Perth Red]

Well realistically there’s probably only Wellington and Perth in the running.
So that leaves bears needing to side with one of those bids If they want to get back in. If bears don’t partner with Perth or Wellington then Perth is most likely in.
If bears do partner with perth, perth are def in.

What’d be interesting is if bears partnered with Wellington would it move Wellington ahead of perth? And would Wellington accept an Australian rl club? and how long before the Wellington bears ended up the ns bears again?

bears are not in the driving seat, as much as Moore and Dickson like to think they are.

putting a club in the fourth biggest city in the country with the strongest grassroots outside the heartlands, with a supportive govt willing to invest, a wealthy bid consortium wanting to own it, an active fanbase waiting for a club and an array of wealthy companies based here for sponsorship. Yeh no good reason to admit perth at all lol

 

[docbrown]

The most important question is when the Perth Bears are announced, who will be willing to help Perth Red when he’s put on suicide watch?

 

[Wb1234]

The most important question is when the Perth Bears are announced, who will be willing to help Perth Red when he’s put on suicide watch?

I suspect that will be a very popular ticket

might have to run a lottery to determine the winner

 

[The Great Dane]

Seems an inpass really at moment.

bears stated non negotiables
no brand change
no kit colour change
license owned by NS
unspecified number of “home” games to be held in Sydney (this has varied between (1-6)

what should be the WA consortium’s non negotiables

logo and name changed to represent WA/Perth
kit to include yellow/gold
license owned by WA
max 1 home game in Sydney. LC to purchase and have final say on who and what venue, also get sleeve sponsor. $1million a year contribution from the NSLC to the club for those two things.
Club based ft in perth


as you can see there’s quite a chasm between what I suspect both parties want to see. The deal breaker will be the license ownership imo. No way in the world nsfc should own the license.

Home games being played outside of Perth should not only be a non-negotiable for any potential partners in Perth, but for the WA government as well.

If the Bears want to negotiate with other teams to take their home games against a hypothetical Perth Bears to NSO then so be it (good luck with that BTW), but the NRL needs a side that plays in Perth once a fortnight, not one that splits games with the city that already has the most NRL and RL content in the world.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Well realistically there’s probably only Wellington and Perth in the running.
So that leaves bears needing to side with one of those bids If they want to get back in. If bears don’t partner with Perth or Wellington then Perth is most likely in.
If bears do partner with perth, perth are def in.

What’d be interesting is if bears partnered with Wellington would it move Wellington ahead of perth? And would Wellington accept an Australian rl club? and how long before the Wellington bears ended up the ns bears again?

bears are not in the driving seat, as much as Moore and Dickson like to think they are.

putting a club in the fourth biggest city in the country with the strongest grassroots outside the heartlands, with a supportive govt willing to invest, a wealthy bid consortium wanting to own it, an active fanbase waiting for a club and an array of wealthy companies based here for sponsorship. Yeh no good reason to admit perth at all lol

This has to be their logo if they go with Wellington.

Wellington Bear

The Wellington Bear is the commercial and promotional advertisement mascot for the brand Snacky Cakes, as well as many other items owned by Eric Cartman throughout the series. The Wellington Bear wears a green tank-top with grey pants. The body type is similar to that of Eric Cartman. The game's...

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[MugaB]

This has to be their logo if they go with Wellington.

Wellington Bear

The Wellington Bear is the commercial and promotional advertisement mascot for the brand Snacky Cakes, as well as many other items owned by Eric Cartman throughout the series. The Wellington Bear wears a green tank-top with grey pants. The body type is similar to that of Eric Cartman. The game's...

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Potato

....very unfunny potato, like one's that have heaps of warts on it

 

[flippikat]

Well realistically there’s probably only Wellington and Perth in the running.
So that leaves bears needing to side with one of those bids If they want to get back in. If bears don’t partner with Perth or Wellington then Perth is most likely in.
If bears do partner with perth, perth are def in.

What’d be interesting is if bears partnered with Wellington would it move Wellington ahead of perth? And would Wellington accept an Australian rl club? and how long before the Wellington bears ended up the ns bears again?

bears are not in the driving seat, as much as Moore and Dickson like to think they are.

putting a club in the fourth biggest city in the country with the strongest grassroots outside the heartlands, with a supportive govt willing to invest, a wealthy bid consortium wanting to own it, an active fanbase waiting for a club and an array of wealthy companies based here for sponsorship. Yeh no good reason to admit perth at all lol

The dark horse here is Christchurch IMO.

They have a new covered stadium in the city centre being built (perfect for cold NZ winter games at night, eg 8pm Friday NZ time), a decent population, an established & storied sporting rivalry with Auckland... and they just so happen to have red & black as Provincial colours.

 

[MugaB]

The dark horse here is Christchurch IMO.

They have a new covered stadium in the ciry centre being built (perfect for cold NZ winter games at night, eg 8pm Friday NZ time), a decent population, an established & storied sporting rivalry with Auckland... and they just so happen to have red & black as Provincial colours.

Which i bet, they'll never get to use, only coz the crusaders are that color combo, not that i think they'll challenge it, but its really not a good idea to copy another codes/clubs colors being in the same locale

 

[Wb1234]

Which i bet, they'll never get to use, only coz the crusaders are that color combo, not that i think they'll challenge it, but its really not a good idea to copy another codes/clubs colors being in the same locale

They can use them if the bears join their bid which is what he’s getting at

 

[MugaB]

They can use them if the bears join their bid which is what he’s getting at

Agreed that works, but as a NZ team probably need to add Silver
(just as the WA idea, with adding gold)

 

[flippikat]

They can use them if the bears join their bid which is what he’s getting at

Spot on.

It might need some 3rd colour to distinguish from the Crusaders & appeal beyond Christchurch/Canterbury province.

The Bears themselves added white to their jerseys briefly in the early 1970s, then again in the 1990s.. so there's scope there for a "South Island Bears" to wear Red, Black & Grey (for instance)

 

[Wb1234]

Spot on.

It might need some 3rd colour to distinguish from the Crusaders & appeal beyond Christchurch/Canterbury province.

The Bears themselves added white to their jerseys briefly in the early 1970s, then again in the 1990s.. so there's scope there for a "South Island Bears" to wear Red, Black & Grey (for instance)

I’m sold

that’s a great name

 

[MugaB]

Spot on.

It might need some 3rd colour to distinguish from the Crusaders & appeal beyond Christchurch/Canterbury province.

The Bears themselves added white to their jerseys briefly in the early 1970s, then again in the 1990s.. so there's scope there for a "South Island Bears" to wear Red, Black & Grey (for instance)

 

[Perth Red]

The most important question is when the Perth Bears are announced, who will be willing to help Perth Red when he’s put on suicide watch?

Again depends on the conditions. I’m in if it’s the wa bears owned by wa. If it’s “the“ bears owned by ns, well makes it easier for me, I’ll just stick with my motorsport and catch the odd nrl game when it doesnt clash with my track time.

 

[Perth Red]

Home games being played outside of Perth should not only be a non-negotiable for any potential partners in Perth, but for the WA government as well.

If the Bears want to negotiate with other teams to take their home games against a hypothetical Perth Bears to NSO then so be it (good luck with that BTW), but the NRL needs a side that plays in Perth once a fortnight, not one that splits games with the city that already has the most NRL and RL content in the world.

Kind of agree but from a business point of view it might make sense. If nslc is willing to pay for the privilege and it helps drive Sydney memberships to a worthwhile amount then it might make business sense to do it.