WA BEARS

[AlwaysGreen]

In WA and stuff not shared with you still. Nothing really changes I guess?

What are you on about now?

 

[Gobsmacked]

Who would have thought that the Bears, Government and Cash converters teaming up could cause such controversy?
Should have been seamless.

Actually surprised they bid zero because both the government and cash converters are only interested in taking money.. and the Bears have f**k all...
NRL should have taken the zero. !

On a serious note, those suggesting that the government shouldn't contribute anything... I refer you to the NRL'S tax receipts...

It's more of a rebate .

 

[Perth Red]

I was told by someone involved in this two weeks ago that this was nrl’s plan b. His words to me where ‘we are not in the business of funding or owning sports clubs’.
Unless there has been a change of govt direction since that conversation this won’t happen. Feels very much like nrl is setting this up to blame everyone but themselves for no Perth club happening.

 

[Perth Red]

Just the start of the public backlash that the wa govt would face.
also doesn’t make sense really, why spend $120mill when they could just give the western bears consortium $20mill to pay the license fee and save the tax payer $100mill?

Exclusive: Perth NRL team said to cost taxpayers $120 million

6PR’s Oliver Peterson has revealed that the current Perth NRL proposal requires a $120 million contribution from the WA Government. The ARL Commission wants WA taxpayers to fund the Perth Bears NRL team; however, no agreement has yet been reached between the WA Government and the ARL Commission...

www.6pr.com.au

 

[Gobsmacked]

I was told by someone involved in this two weeks ago that this was nrl’s plan b. His words to me where ‘we are not in the business of funding or owning sports clubs’.
Unless there has been a change of govt direction since that conversation this won’t happen. Feels very much like nrl is setting this up to blame everyone but themselves for no Perth club happening.

Cry me a river

 

[Iamback]

Maybe some members were privately messaged on here a few days ago with a message highlighting something like this was cooking and that it was a few weeks old already…

Correct. All laid out very well

 

[Iamback]

Why so fkwits like you can pick it apart, I got the message last week, and had zero issue with it, you would have cried till the cows come home that govt being involved and that it's the wrong use of tax payers money... well where the cry towards that Tasmanian stadium that's done f**k all hasn't it, might aswell reap the benefits towards NRL then

Same. Got the message, Looks like a reasonable ask. Happy to post it on here when it plays out

 

[Perth Red]

Re state govt funding for clubs, yes tassie is contributing $12mill for 12 years to the running of the devils, however the AFLare contributing $120mil, to jnr funding and $15mill to the stadium. What’s nrl contributing to a Perth club beyond the grant?

 

[Iamback]

Re state govt funding for clubs, yes tassie is contributing $12mill for 12 years to the running of the devils, however the AFLare contributing $120mil, to jnr funding and $15mill to the stadium. What’s nrl contributing to a Perth club beyond the grant?

$50m

$20m in junior development
$30m office space, grounds etc

 

[Iamback]

People really lose their minds with govt money.

Govt money isn't going to pay players or shit like that.

Govt funded almost every Sydney clubs CoE...yet new teams get the same is bad?

 

[Perth Red]

$50m

$20m in junior development
$30m office space, grounds etc

Where have you got that from?

 

[Perth Red]

People really lose their minds with govt money.

Govt money isn't going to pay players or shit like that.

Govt funded almost every Sydney clubs CoE...yet new teams get the same is bad?

That isnt what nrl asked for, that funding was already committed. Allegedly what they’ve asked for is $120mill to pay for the operations of the club. Why a club would need $12mill a year funding I have no idea unless nrl wasn't paying the grant?

 

[AlwaysGreen]

No one is losing their shit about government money.

Except the peanuts. If you dare to have a differing opinion to the peanut gallery you get a f**king lecture about fumbleball or some other shit they pretend they hate as they try to prove themselves the bestest league fans ever!

Peanuts.

 

[Wb1234]

$50m

$20m in junior development
$30m office space, grounds etc

@Perth Red maybe you should listen sometimes

 

[Wb1234]

That isnt what nrl asked for, that funding was already committed. Allegedly what they’ve asked for is $120mill to pay for the operations of the club. Why a club would need $12mill a year funding I have no idea unless nrl wasn't paying the grant?

The govt contribution is to go towards set up costs for the club not for running costs

Maybe it includes buying commercial assets for the club to make money from who knows

The issue is the arl has asked the govt for more money and it looks like themselves will be matching that funding

 

[Vee]

wb wanting to copy super rugby has got to be close to the most embarrassing thing ever posted on this forum.

Never heard of the fecker

 

[Red&BlackBear]

That isnt what nrl asked for, that funding was already committed. Allegedly what they’ve asked for is $120mill to pay for the operations of the club. Why a club would need $12mill a year funding I have no idea unless nrl wasn't paying the grant?

This $120m cash shouldn’t be an addition on top of what is already committed. Simply a diversion from one committed aspect into another potential aspect.

HBF doesn’t need so much cash for a revamp considering it’s almost identical cost to what Panthers are getting and their stadium (Penrith) requires vastly more comprehensive works done on it compared to HBF.

You can do HBFs intended upgrades for $200m leaving that extra $100m freed up. Whoever estimated HBF’s upgrades at $300m has rocks in their head.

That extra $100m can then theoretically be used on setting up an NRL club in WA if WA wants it bad enough.

So in the end the taxpayers wouldn’t be forking out anymore than what was already committed by their state government. This is the narrative that should be used. Simply reporting a number without context and having locals freak out is poor dealings by the local media.

 

[Trifili13]

This $120m cash shouldn’t be an addition on top of what is already committed. Simply a diversion from one committed aspect into another potential aspect.

HBF doesn’t need so much cash for a revamp considering it’s almost identical cost to what Panthers are getting and their stadium (Penrith) requires vastly more comprehensive works done on it compared to HBF.

You can do HBFs intended upgrades for $200m leaving that extra $100m freed up. Whoever estimated HBF’s upgrades at $300m has rocks in their head.

That extra $100m can then theoretically be used on setting up an NRL club in WA if WA wants it bad enough.

So in the end the taxpayers wouldn’t be forking out anymore than what was already committed by their state government. This is the narrative that should be used. Simply reporting a number without context and having locals freak out is poor dealings by the local media.

This $100m that might now be diverted to setting up the club, does that mean that the original bid had a $100m hole in its bid proposal to setting up the club? Or more lavish spending will now be made if $100m more is now available?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

This $100m that might now be diverted to setting up the club, does that mean that the original bid had a $100m hole in its bid proposal to setting up the club? Or more lavish spending will now be made if $100m more is now available?

WA Consortium has no assets or infrastructure and would be reliant on WA Government regardless.

Why would the middle man be required if the outcome is the same without them? The $30m that was alleged raised for the bid was prospective investment anyways - not like it was already sitting in a bank account ready to be rolled out. What if one of those investors takes a hit between now and 2027 then can’t commit to their share of that $30m?

Then the NRL and WA Gov would be chipping in anyways. Why not take that uncertainty and unnecessary risk away and just do it themselves
?

PNG is similar in the fact that the $60m license fee is a diversion from the $600m government commitment. It’s not an extra amount on top of.

 

[Wb1234]

This $120m cash shouldn’t be an addition on top of what is already committed. Simply a diversion from one committed aspect into another potential aspect.

HBF doesn’t need so much cash for a revamp considering it’s almost identical cost to what Panthers are getting and their stadium (Penrith) requires vastly more comprehensive works done on it compared to HBF.

You can do HBFs intended upgrades for $200m leaving that extra $100m freed up. Whoever estimated HBF’s upgrades at $300m has rocks in their head.

That extra $100m can then theoretically be used on setting up an NRL club in WA if WA wants it bad enough.

So in the end the taxpayers wouldn’t be forking out anymore than what was already committed by their state government. This is the narrative that should be used. Simply reporting a number without context and having locals freak out is poor dealings by the local media.

Penrith rebuild is a bit budget though

Hbf park needs two new stands and maybe a roof on the other

The main stand will cost a lot with all the corporate facilities bars restaurants etc