WARL Results/Fixtures 2009

[anonomous009]

Cant wait to see what goes on in the Joondalup/South Perth game.
Should be an absolute cracker but my pick is the Lions convincingly in the end.

 

[Perth Red]

would have def gone to the Joondalup game but for the small game taking place at MES!

 

[black and gold]

would have def gone to the Joondalup game but for the small game taking place at MES!

the 1st grade games kick off at 1.45pm this saturday, so im going to make a day of it

 

[Nuke]

That was the idea of the games all starting early tomorrow.

 

[albert]

Central 28 North Beach 18.

 

[Nuke]

Joondalup vs South Perth at The Arena Joondalup

Ladies: 6-all draw
Ressies: Joondalup scored a last second try under the posts to snatch a 22-18 win.
Firsts: After being behind for the whole game, South Perth score a try in the corner just after the final siren sounds, after a controversial set of 6, to level the game at 20-all. They missed the conversion, so the final score remained at 20-20.

So after 5 rounds, both teams remain undefeated. With Centrals winning, they take top spot on the ladder.

 

[WA Power]

I have only been in WA for just over a year from NSW and travelled to the Arena yesterday to watch Joondalup V South Perth and this was a fantastic game to watch and was surprised that with 13 WA state players in there side South Perth were a very average side. Joondalup dominated all areas and the battle of the forwards was clearly won by Joondalup. I must say the quality of the refereeing was very questionable and I guess this is one area that is really lacking in WA. The touch judge coached the South Perth ladies side, and then referred the reserve grade and then to top it off was linesman in first grade. If this is not a conflict of interest I am not sure what is. How can the WARL allow this to happen, the guy had a shocker in reserve grade and was out of his depth running the line in first grade.
Joondalup are certainty a club heading in the right direction and the clash next week will be a cracker

 

[black and gold]

I have only been in WA for just over a year from NSW and travelled to the Arena yesterday to watch Joondalup V South Perth and this was a fantastic game to watch and was surprised that with 13 WA state players in there side South Perth were a very average side. Joondalup dominated all areas and the battle of the forwards was clearly won by Joondalup. I must say the quality of the refereeing was very questionable and I guess this is one area that is really lacking in WA. The touch judge coached the South Perth ladies side, and then referred the reserve grade and then to top it off was linesman in first grade. If this is not a conflict of interest I am not sure what is. How can the WARL allow this to happen, the guy had a shocker in reserve grade and was out of his depth running the line in first grade.
Joondalup are certainty a club heading in the right direction and the clash next week will be a cracker

mate- south perth had 5 state players out injured and played with only 2 on the bench in the second half because of injury. but in saying that joondalup were the best side by far on the day and deserved to win. i think souths can think themselves lucky getting away with a draw. i was impressed with fauinnuku, number 11 from joondalup and heard the reds are looking at him

 

[joondalup_giant]

saw in 2day's paper rooster's and kalgoorlie drew 36 all and rockingham thrashed willagee 76 to 14 i think

 

[WA Power]

Joondalup were in the same boat on the bench with the hooker only playing 20 mins and No 15 not completeing the match . Not sure what 5 players they had out but the program I brought out yesterday had a lot of State Players in it for South Perth and it is amazing how Joondalup could only get 1 player in the side the Front Rower Searle who made the Australian minor state side to go to Tonga yet can not get a start with the Reds.

 

[b0rt]

mate- south perth had 5 state players out injured and played with only 2 on the bench in the second half because of injury. but in saying that joondalup were the best side by far on the day and deserved to win. i think souths can think themselves lucky getting away with a draw. i was impressed with fauinnuku, number 11 from joondalup and heard the reds are looking at him

when north beach played joondalup they had 3 players out in about 15 minutes and lost another just after halftime. none of them played this week either. tone it down joondalup:sarcasm:

 

[Nuke]

Haha! All circumstancial, I can assure you!

Black&Gold, the Reds may be looking at Fauonuku (first I've heard of it myself), but they won't get him. He's told me he's leaving at the end of the year to live in England.

 

[black and gold]

Haha! All circumstancial, I can assure you!

Black&Gold, the Reds may be looking at Fauonuku (first I've heard of it myself), but they won't get him. He's told me he's leaving at the end of the year to live in England.

dam shame he has the goods

 

[Nuke]

Yes he does.

 

[Nicolas Hart]

That is pretty atrocious to think that such a huge conflict of interest was allowed to occur ??

The league may wish to believe that professionalism will rule - though the reality is much different than the belief.

I wasn't there, I didn't see the standard of refereeing - regardless of how good (or poor) it was - that should never happen.

In my opinion, a coach should not be entitled to referee at all while they remain an active coach. Once they stop coaching, sure, start refereeing - but there is a huge conflict of interest - regardless of which teams are playing - due to rivalries, and personal bias.

I guess, from the WARL point of view, there may not be the depth of referee's in the league over here which is where the problem of conflicts will arise - you need a referee to adjudicate a match. Though certainly, if you cannot afford to prevent active coaches from acting as referees in matches, there is no excuse to allow a coach to referee over their own clubs matches - that, to me, is outrageous.

 

[Nuke]

You would hope there was a better system, but at the moment, the WARL is dead-set struggling for referee's numbers.

 

[Angie]

The coach of the SP Ladies team has never even played a game for Souths, & took up Referreing as a way to stay in the game along with coaching. I suggest that instead of bagging him out that maybe you should be contacting the Ref's association & sticking your own hands up! There is obviously a serious lack of Referres in this state (even the infrastructure to assist them & help them to improve), but they have had a few new recruits this year who obviously lack experience. But then again you could always play in the Ladies comp where the Ref's do not even know the rules & those that are prepared to put their hands up when all clubs are told they have to supply their own Ref's are then taken to Ref Reserve Grade or run lines in 1st's.

 

[WA Power]

Referring in WA has been an issue for a long time and my only concern was that the Referring appeared to be out of his depth and why would you put a person aligned to a club in charge of a game. In most places you have someone from the Referring body to mentor these young guys on game day that does not happen in WA by the look of it. While the game has grown rapidly no a lot appears to have been done on the refereeing front. I am quiet new but only seen 3 referees used in first grade so far. I have spoken to a few club people and the moment you mention referring you get silence and as one guy said to me 2 weeks ago you never complain about the standard of referring over here as no one will listen to you and you will get the same referee again the following week.

If a player does not perform the coach will drop him to another grade, due to the lack of numbers in the referring ranks this does not happen here.

Any way with out they we have no game so I guess we just cope it on the chin and hopefully they are consistent with there interpretation each week;;

 

[black and gold]

The coach of the SP Ladies team has never even played a game for Souths, & took up Referreing as a way to stay in the game along with coaching. I suggest that instead of bagging him out that maybe you should be contacting the Ref's association & sticking your own hands up! There is obviously a serious lack of Referres in this state (even the infrastructure to assist them & help them to improve), but they have had a few new recruits this year who obviously lack experience. But then again you could always play in the Ladies comp where the Ref's do not even know the rules & those that are prepared to put their hands up when all clubs are told they have to supply their own Ref's are then taken to Ref Reserve Grade or run lines in 1st's.

i agree with you.people have to realise without the refs[even though we give them a hard time], we would not have a comp. i wouldnt be a ref if you paid me big bucks, so i say good on them for doing the job whether its bad or good

 

[Nicolas Hart]

i agree with you.people have to realise without the refs[even though we give them a hard time], we would not have a comp. i wouldnt be a ref if you paid me big bucks, so i say good on them for doing the job whether its bad or good

I think we've all openly acknowledge the game needs referee's

It doesn't excuse the fact that there is a lack of integrity within the system, and that this lack of integrity, or perceived injustice (in the case of last weekends matches) should be avoided through proper management of the referee department.

No referee aligned to a club should ever adjudicate a match involving its team. Surely there is enough referee's within the WARL to prevent this from occurring. A stronger marketing campaign to attract referee's might also be useful. Unless individuals in the public seek out the WARL webpage, searching specifically for umpire development (which, from memory, isn't actually a link on the WARL webpage); there's no chance of learning more about it.

The reality is, the developmental structures of rugby league in perth - in both a coaching and referee'ing sense are lackluster.

I recall contacting the WARL over a year ago in relation to going through the coaching structure (Level 1 onwards); only to wait 6 months for a response. They apologised, though, it doesn't change the fact that most people would be disinterested following such a laboured reaction.

I've worked in numerous sporting codes; though primarily within WAFL club administrations - and the sheer focus this code has on publicising its developmental structures in coaching, refereeing, volunteers, and administrators is magnificent. It installs great confidence in those interested, and has VERY readily available information for ALL constituents of the code - be it parents, children, players, or professionals.

It is a serious detrimental aspect of the rugby league code in Perth at the moment.

You may see this as negative - but it isn't - I'm only pointing out the reality of the scenario, and measures which NEED improvement.