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Wayne Bennett and future coach talk

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Buderus and Sandercock to be Stone's assistants in 2015 according to Toohey. Excited about Bedsy getting a chance but Sandercock was a failure at HKR. It is a shame Sandercock couldn't bring Greg Eden with him. That kid can play. Broncos are close to signing him.
 

Spot On

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Buderus and Sandercock to be Stone's assistants in 2015 according to Toohey. Excited about Bedsy getting a chance but Sandercock was a failure at HKR. It is a shame Sandercock couldn't bring Greg Eden with him. That kid can play. Broncos are close to signing him.


Who aren't they close to signing??? They can't sign everyone.
 
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I personally was hoping Noddy would get an assistant spot. He and Bedsy would offer plenty. Sandercock's appointment unnerves me a bit. It is like Stone is again letting sympathy get in the way of good decisions. No wonder Bennett has grave concerns about our privilege above progress culture.
 
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Pomoz

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Its too soon for Buderus, he should spend a few years coaching reggies and u20's to build up his skills. is having a rookie assistant coach helpful for Stone? Popular, but not helpful.
 

perverse

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Didn't take us long to get back to our nepotistic ways, did it?

Sigh... well, the average Knights supporter will probably be pumped about it. All I see is a recipe for a team that doesn't need to perform. As if Stoney or Bedsy are going to drop their mates when they're not performing. What a f**kin' joke.

Sandercock is a total nuffy, too.
 

Pomoz

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Didn't take us long to get back to our nepotistic ways, did it?

Sigh... well, the average Knights supporter will probably be pumped about it. All I see is a recipe for a team that doesn't need to perform. As if Stoney or Bedsy are going to drop their mates when they're not performing. What a f**kin' joke.

Sandercock is a total nuffy, too.
I couldn't have put it better myself. You remember when the Dragons hired Brown as coach and he had only just finished playing. He couldn't win a Premiership with a side that had half the Australian team in it. Gasnier, Cooper, Timmins, Bailey, Barrett, Ryles. Same deal, he was mates with them 12 months ago and now he has to sack/bollock them. It never works.
 

Noname36

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Didn't take us long to get back to our nepotistic ways, did it?

Sigh... well, the average Knights supporter will probably be pumped about it. All I see is a recipe for a team that doesn't need to perform. As if Stoney or Bedsy are going to drop their mates when they're not performing. What a f**kin' joke.

Sandercock is a total nuffy, too.

We've gone exactly back to the same place we were 3 years ago. In fact I say we've gone back even further given we now know Sandercock is a dud and Bedsy only got a role after the first boys club choice in Joey turned us down.
 

Rod

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At the end of the day they're just assistants, plenty of teams have just-retired players in similar roles. Hagan was long retired and was still unable to drop players so there's not necessarily a correlation.

Bedsy would be a bad choice for say a head coach role but perhaps an assistant is a good middle ground. It's not like the players don't respond to him.

If Stone is going to make a real go of it this time the buck stops with him when it comes to team selections.
 

undertaker

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I wonder what happened to all this talk about Marwan Koukash? He was being sprouted in the media a few weeks ago. Haven't heard anything about him for a while. It's a shame, as someone like him definitely has the balls to eliminate the 'old boys club' mentality in our administration.

Until then, it's going to be a while until reach the halcyon days of 1997-2001. The only positive is giving Stone only 2 years. He knows he will have to produce results right from the start of next year.
 
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Noname36

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At the end of the day they're just assistants, plenty of teams have just-retired players in similar roles. Hagan was long retired and was still unable to drop players so there's not necessarily a correlation.

Bedsy would be a bad choice for say a head coach role but perhaps an assistant is a good middle ground. It's not like the players don't respond to him.

If Stone is going to make a real go of it this time the buck stops with him when it comes to team selections.

They're certainly not "just assistants". Gone are the days of the head coach running everything. Successful sides have a whole coaching team around them. And with the amount of assistants that end up progressing into the head coaching role these days it's very realistic that in two years time Bedsy (who was playing with these blokes this time last year!) or Sandernuff (that got sacked because he couldn't coach in an inferior competition) could be our head coach.

The bigger issue though is how they (and Stone, Gidley, Chief, etc) got the positions to begin with. Once again the club is just giving roles to "one of the boys" over those that may actually be better applicants. Does anyone actually think that Sandercock or Bedsy would be better candidates for this role than Daniel Anderson or even Mick Crawley? I don't think so. To be honest I reckon that's why we don't actually interview anyone for positions: if the credentials of blokes we selected actually got put up against others they'd fail miserably. Once again it's who you know not what you know with this club.

I get Stone's reasoning. His mate Sandercock just got sacked and he worked okay with him first time around...but after getting so close last year "okay" isn't enough for me anymore. I want change, not a club that's happy to settle for less than the best as long as their mates are all in a job.
 

Knight Vision

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Its too soon for Buderus, he should spend a few years coaching reggies and u20's to build up his skills. is having a rookie assistant coach helpful for Stone? Popular, but not helpful.

Exactly, Stone is basically a rookie he needs to surround himslef with seriously good help, good tacticians , good game planners, good man managers etc . He doesnt need help that are also on steep learning curves
 

Knight Vision

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They're certainly not "just assistants". Gone are the days of the head coach running everything. Successful sides have a whole coaching team around them. And with the amount of assistants that end up progressing into the head coaching role these days it's very realistic that in two years time Bedsy (who was playing with these blokes this time last year!) or Sandernuff (that got sacked because he couldn't coach in an inferior competition) could be our head coach.

The bigger issue though is how they (and Stone, Gidley, Chief, etc) got the positions to begin with. Once again the club is just giving roles to "one of the boys" over those that may actually be better applicants. Does anyone actually think that Sandercock or Bedsy would be better candidates for this role than Daniel Anderson or even Mick Crawley? I don't think so. To be honest I reckon that's why we don't actually interview anyone for positions: if the credentials of blokes we selected actually got put up against others they'd fail miserably. Once again it's who you know not what you know with this club.

I get Stone's reasoning. His mate Sandercock just got sacked and he worked okay with him first time around...but after getting so close last year "okay" isn't enough for me anymore. I want change, not a club that's happy to settle for less than the best as long as their mates are all in a job.

I would of crawled over broken glass to get Daniel Anderson
 
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Is it confirmed that bedsy is our assistant?

He would be better off being a trainer for a few years.

I guess we will never change, Wayne couldn't do it so I don't know who could. Possibly a Bellamy or a hasler, good luck getting one of those to come here.
 

Rod

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They're certainly not "just assistants". Gone are the days of the head coach running everything. Successful sides have a whole coaching team around them. And with the amount of assistants that end up progressing into the head coaching role these days it's very realistic that in two years time Bedsy (who was playing with these blokes this time last year!) or Sandernuff (that got sacked because he couldn't coach in an inferior competition) could be our head coach.

The bigger issue though is how they (and Stone, Gidley, Chief, etc) got the positions to begin with. Once again the club is just giving roles to "one of the boys" over those that may actually be better applicants. Does anyone actually think that Sandercock or Bedsy would be better candidates for this role than Daniel Anderson or even Mick Crawley? I don't think so. To be honest I reckon that's why we don't actually interview anyone for positions: if the credentials of blokes we selected actually got put up against others they'd fail miserably. Once again it's who you know not what you know with this club.

I get Stone's reasoning. His mate Sandercock just got sacked and he worked okay with him first time around...but after getting so close last year "okay" isn't enough for me anymore. I want change, not a club that's happy to settle for less than the best as long as their mates are all in a job.

I guess it depends if we made an effort to get guys like Anderson or just settled for what's already laying around the joint. It would be stupid I agree if we didn't even put the feelers out as to what else is out there. Anderson as an assistant would have been great and was supposedly keen so if we basically ignored him that's crazy.
 
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This is why I wanted Matterson. In hindsight I think we F##ed up not signing him. He would have not allowed this crap and you get an ambitious coach unaffected by our notorious nepotism based club structure.
 
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Frederick

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This was always going to happen when the NRL extended Midleys contract. Don't know why anyone is surprised, really
 

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