Week 1 Finals: Parra v Penrith GAME DAY THREAD @ Bluebet Stadium 9/9/22

[Poupou Escobar]

Fair point about Russell not having had the chance since ealry in the year. Though he was a first choice winger in Round 1...

He was in the team because Dunster and Sivo were both unavailable. Hardly 'first choice'.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What sort of propensity was shown to do so in his first season to warrant two more years though?

I don't think the merkins responsible for recruitment/retention are the same as the merkin who picks the team and sets the game plan.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They're both playing too many minutes to be effective when it matters late in a game.

Perhaps one of the reasons we've never gone on with the job in the second half against quality opponents.

We scored two tries in the last 15 minutes against both the Storm and the Panthers. But if you're complaining we didn't blow top teams away after getting an early lead, that's why they're top teams. There's no need to impose a narrative.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I was talking about last night.

It's not a big sample though is it? Jake Arthur had one LBA in 20 minutes while Moses and Drown had zero in 140 minutes combined. It is meaningless.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well no, that’s not correct because he hasn’t been in our top 17 for most of this year.

I assume we were trying to encourage him to leave. Then after it was too late for that he got injured.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What flavour of shit are you trying to peddle this time?

If a player misses a tackle, they missed their tackle - their part of/role in the team's overall defensive duties - and obviously would be accountable for continuous improvements in their role.

Oh you're changing your story now? I agree with this new story of yours. Of course players should try not to miss tackles, and try to improve their tackling ability in the future.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yep. $3 underdogs but merkins are saying I told you so. f**ken psychics.

*psychos

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's short for psychologist ffs

 

[Gary Gutful]

So its got nothing to do with gravity?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You're thinking of proctology.

 

[lucablight]

As poor as Waqa was last night, I think it would be unfair on both him and a Sean Russell to make that change. Waqa was ordinary last night for sure, but would you really throw Russell in to a sudden death game when he hasn't played top grade since March? Unfair on both players IMO. Simonsson? Yeah maybe... Flip a coin....

Also - not sure if it was commented last night, but something that stood out to me like dogs nuts during the minute's silence for the queen last night was Nathan Brown standing there with no arm around his teammate either side....spoke volumes to me, looks like he feels like a man who isn't part of this outfit anymore....

I noticed that about Nathan Brown as well. Seemed very strange to me.

 

[Noise]

Look at the sorts of players who make their NRL debuts at the Storm and Chooks. None of them are kids from Bondi or Melbourne.

Didn’t Radley, Smith and Egan and Nat Butcher make their debuts with the Roosters and are all from the Eastern suburbs?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Didn’t Radley, Smith and Egan and Nat Butcher make their debuts with the Roosters and are all from the Eastern suburbs?

I believe Smith / Butchers are from South Sydney Juniors

 

[Bandwagon]

I believe Smith / Butchers are from South Sydney Juniors

It's kinda moot 'cause they ( both Souths and Roosters ) seem to steal so many juniors from each other that you could almost say their catchments are combined / shared, regardless of whose system they come through.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Haha, moot.

 

[TheParraboy]

A good postive about the loss

Potentially an extra game day thread !!

 

[Chipmunk]

We scored two tries in the last 15 minutes against both the Storm and the Panthers. But if you're complaining we didn't blow top teams away after getting an early lead, that's why they're top teams. There's no need to impose a narrative.

Earlier in the year against both those teams 3 interchange forwards were used, with the least minutes played by the third interchange forwards 15 minutes against the Panthers, and against the Storm it was 26 minutes.

Nathan Brown was part of both playing long minutes (66 and 55) and the third interchange forward isn't really being used when it matters.

There needs to be more minutes from a third interchange forward. Nathan Brown seems like the ideal candidate.

 

[the phantom menace]

Oh you're changing your story now? I agree with this new story of yours. Of course players should try not to miss tackles, and try to improve their tackling ability in the future.

What story exactly did I change? The one you tried to put into my mouth to suit your Gumpist posting agendas .

Nothing has changed from the stated facts - Arthur missed a tackle, and the tackle he missed happen to lead to a try. Though you've been busy trying to come up with a story to seemingly argue (for the sake of arguing?) that there was nothing at all wrong with him missing a tackle, and that individual responsibility for missing a tackle is not something that should be focussed on if a try might be scored as a result?

 

[IFR33K]

A good postive about the loss

Potentially an extra game day thread !!

Or an early exit

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What story exactly did I change? The one you tried to put into my mouth to suit your Gumpist posting agendas .

Nothing has changed from the stated facts - Arthur missed a tackle, and the tackle he missed happen to lead to a try. Though you've been busy trying to come up with a story to seemingly argue (for the sake of arguing?) that there was nothing at all wrong with him missing a tackle, and that individual responsibility for missing a tackle is not something that should be focussed on if a try might be scored as a result?

Exactly. Every player misses tackles. If they lead to tries or line breaks that doesn't make them any more of a missed tackle than one that is cleaned up by team mates.