Well done refs!!! (after game one)

[Vee]

I don't get this "must be guaranteed to score a try" business. Nobody is guaranteed to score a try at any time. Anything could happen, including tripping over one's own feet at the last moment, dropping the ball or fumbling the put down.

A player being professionally fouled at a moment where they are in a try scoring position should be the standard for penalty tries being awarded, and that is how I believe the rule is currently written.

So I'm guessing you didn't read the rule posted above .

 

[bileduct]

So I'm guessing you didn't read the rule posted above .

You guessed wrong.

 

[Captain Apollo]

I don't get this "must be guaranteed to score a try" business. Nobody is guaranteed to score a try at any time. Anything could happen, including tripping over one's own feet at the last moment, dropping the ball or fumbling the put down.

A player being professionally fouled at a moment where they are in a try scoring position should be the standard for penalty tries being awarded, and that is how I believe the rule is currently written.

Nowhere in the rules of the game does it say "must be guaranteed to score a try". The rule actually says -

"the Referee may award a penalty try if, in his opinion, a try would have been scored but for the unfair play of the defending team."

It is solely the referee's opinion whether a try would have been scored but for the act of unfair play. If he/she felt it would have been scored, its a penalty try. If it isn't, it would most likely be judged a professional foul and the player would be off to the sin bin.

 

[bileduct]

Nowhere in the rules of the game does it say "must be guaranteed to score a try". The rule actually says -

"the Referee may award a penalty try if, in his opinion, a try would have been scored but for the unfair play of the defending team."

It is solely the referee's opinion whether a try would have been scored but for the act of unfair play. If he/she felt it would have been scored, its a penalty try. If it isn't, it would most likely be judged a professional foul and the player would be off to the sin bin.

Yeah, I am fully aware of what the rule is and how it is written.

That hasn't stopped multiple television commentators and people in this forum claiming that somebody must be "guaranteed" to score a try before a penalty try can be awarded. I've seen excuses such as the ball bouncing in the other direction, and even Dugan fumbling the put down as reasons why a penalty try shouldn't have been given.

Read the second paragraph of my original comment.

 

[TheDMC]

Yeah, I am fully aware of what the rule is and how it is written.

That hasn't stopped multiple television commentators and people in this forum claiming that somebody must be "guaranteed" to score a try before a penalty try can be awarded. I've seen excuses such as the ball bouncing in the other direction, and even Dugan fumbling the put down as reasons why a penalty try shouldn't have been given.

Read the second paragraph of my original comment.

Yep, 'guaranteed' or '100% sure' - says commentators, coaches in press conferences, and many people in this forum.

 

[Vee]

You guessed wrong.

The rule is fine the way it is. The bunker's interpretation and the refs' paraphrasing is the problem in this case.

 

[bileduct]

The rule is fine the way it is. The bunker's interpretation and the refs' paraphrasing is the problem in this case.

You need to read my post more carefully.

 

[snogard6]

A penalty try should be treated the same way as goaltending in basketball.

 

[Vee]

You need to read my post more carefully.

Nup, you need to articulate better.

 

[bileduct]

Nup, you need to articulate better.

If you still didn't get it after rereading my post then you are beyond help.

 

[Vee]

If you still didn't get it after rereading my post then you are beyond help.

Yeah, Okay, you can't communicate your message so it's my fault.

 

[bileduct]

Yeah, Okay, you can't communicate your message so it's my fault.

Yes, your lack of reading comprehension is your fault.

 

[Vee]

Sure Brainiac.

 

[Lebbo73]

My god you are stupid.

And you’re geniused. How’s that NDIS money going for you?

 

[Saxon]

Panthers getting away with murder in the ruck today.

 

[kit66]

Panthers getting away with murder in the ruck today.

So were the Roosters against Manly, although Manly weren't much better. It's not just the wrestle but deliberately just laying there, looking at the ref even or second grabs. It's happening in most games and will only get worse because they know they'll get away with it.
This time last year the refs were blowing a hundred penalties a game because " that's what the fans want" and this year they're just letting hold downs and forward passes go to speed up the game.
They're incapable of getting the balance right and seem only interested in keeping the media / commentators ( particularly ch9 ) happy.

 

[Saxon]

Refs are just taking the piss now.
Lying on, flopping in late and pulling players back down - all are being ignored.

 

[some11]

Unfortunately it's true, they pendulum has swung too far back the other way.

Still, coaches got the memo - if they didn't train for the wrestle then be prepared to lose games. Any coach worth their salt will hold down longer in the opening sets to make it seem as if that is the standard for the game.

 

[Vee]

I’ve had a thousand beers but I saw a couple of great decisions in the main game. That forward pass call was as good as I’ve seen for several years.

The refs have so much more confidence than they used to. Back them up!

 

[Pedge1971]

I think they have been pretty good. Sadly, the decision to keep the game flowing and therefore penalty counts low will gift Melb and the Roosters.

Ffs even my bunch of mongs the Knights lay all across the ruck tonight and got away with plenty. Need to blow a few more of those or it will become farcical.