West Coast Pirates Bid News

[Perth Red]

Haha shut up princess.

 

[Perth Red]

Pirates’ long voyage in search of treasure

WA rugby league faces another frustrating 12-month wait before knowing whether West Coast Pirates will become a reality in the NRL.
Hopes for a WA club have been constantly raised and dashed in the past five years, but talks over a new television deal from 2018 have started and the NRL’s head of strategy Shane Richardson, a strong supporter of having a WA side, will finish his review of the game’s future next year.
If expansion gets the go-ahead, rugby league’s local controlling body, NRLWA, will need 18 months to kick-start the $20 million Pirates franchise launched three years ago.
Unlike two years ago when broadcaster Channel Nine said there was no appetite for more games, broadcasting companies are unlikely to have the controlling hand over the new deal.
NRL head of football Todd Greenberg said the new television deal was only a part of Richardson’s review.
“It’s not just about what we want to see on television, it’s more our decision on what we think is best for the game,” Greenberg said.
“We’re developing our plan for our sport. There are a number of things to look at.
“Shane is doing a very detailed piece of work for the future of the game and that will include expansion.”

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/28372977/pirates-long-voyage-in-search-of-treasure/

 

[alien]

how was he being a f**kwit???

 

[Perth Red]

3 years ago this week the West Coast Pirates bid was launched. Will we finally see a team run out in the NRL in three years time?

Perth's new NRL team will be called West Coast Pirates, if a WA Rugby League bid to enter a team in an expanded competition is successful.
The WARL today launched its new look, with the colours of red, gold and black a salute to history, as they were the original colours of the Western Reds. The Reds fielded a team in the NRL and Super League from 1995 to 1997.
The Pirates' moniker will replace the old Reds' logo, which up until now had been the face of the bid.
The WARL has spent more than three years planning for the anticipated 2015 expansion, focusing on establishing a statewide grassroots connection and then building the model from the ground up.
The WARL has also fielded a side in the under-18 SG Ball national competition for three years, with seven local players joining NRL clubs' Toyota Cup development teams.
"We are excited with the brand and felt it time we opened it up to the community. Even though some people may question the deviation from the established Reds, our research has shown it will be a fantastic new identity for the game," Campbell said.

"The Reds will always be part of our heritage. This launch comes as the second phase of our bid process after launching our Vision 2020 two weeks ago. The next phase is the completion of the actual bid document which is well in hand."
Sackson described the logo as "fresh".
"The brand is fresh, exciting and new to Australian sport and we believe it has a marketing edge that will be enthusiastically embraced by both our stakeholders and those new to the game," he said.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...st-coast-pirates/story-fn2mcuj6-1226410409335

 

[Jamberoo]

Very strange calling the new team West Coast given the AFL club's history in WA. Surely this will dilute the brand.
It would be like calling a new team AFL South Sydney.

 

[Perth Red]

Not really, everyone here will just call them Pirates. Nobody calls Force Western, or Glory Perth.

There is a growing RL presence In SW, Pilbara and Kimberly so the club needed to be called something that doesn't alienate these RL communities outside of Perth. It was either western, WA or west coast. I prefer west coast.

Your analogy doesn't make any sense either. It would be more akin to starting a club in Melbourne and calling them Carlton storm is probably a better example!

 

[LeagueXIII]

I disagree, you think the only people who follow South Sydney live in Redfern, or St.George in Kogarah....Chelsea in London.

It's just marketing crap.

 

[Perth Red]

So you'd have called them Perth pirates?

True but those fans tend to have a historic connection with a historic club. Totally different when your starting a new club. End of day it really doesn't matter, no one is or isn't going to support the club because of its name. And at this point we could have three new names by the time the NRL decides to expand West!

 

[LeagueXIII]

I'd call them Western Reds or Perth Reds git rid of Pirates.

 

[RoosTah]

I like "West Coast Pirates" - it suits the name Pirates better to have a reference to the coast

 

[flippikat]

The Reds nickname has been grown by the Queensland Reds in Super Rugby - it would be nuts to use that for an expansion NRL team, it just muddies the waters too much... even though Perth used it in 1995 - their NRL team needs to stake out a totally unique brand.

Besides, Pirates are cool.

 

[Foreign Legion]

Then what about brisbane bombers and essodon

 

[Perth Red]

I predict we will sell more merch than any team! If they can't make game day and the fan experience awesome with this brand then They should be made to walk the plank!

 

[flippikat]

Then what about brisbane bombers and essodon

Well, by extension of my point - I think that bid is foolish to use a nickname from another sport.

 

[RoosTah]

Well, by extension of my point - I think that bid is foolish to use a nickname from another sport.

Queensland always borrow names though - Broncos, Cowboys, Titans are all cookie cutter lifted from the NFL.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Pirates will be a great moniker.

Plenty you can do with it and wins over the kids.

Only problem is, I can foresee an abortion of a jersey on the cards.

 

[Bronco Rob]

I'd call them Western Reds or Perth Reds git rid of Pirates.

I've mentioned this before in this thread but whether it was intentional or not, the "Pirates" moniker will be popular with the kids and a new code like RL in a reasonably foreign market needs to attract fans at the youth level. This is where the growth will come from, it will take generational change to convert fans to RL and it's when someone is at their youth where they decide which sport to watch sop if we can get them young to follow league by using the Pirates brand then they may stay with the game indefinitely.

 

[RoosTah]

Pirates will be a great moniker.

Plenty you can do with it and wins over the kids.

Only problem is, I can foresee an abortion of a jersey on the cards.

Well the NSWCup one they use is passable:

 

[RoosTah]

I've mentioned this before in this thread but whether it was intentional or not, the "Pirates" moniker will be popular with the kids and a new code like RL in a reasonably foreign market needs to attract fans at the youth level. This is where the growth will come from, it will take generational change to convert fans to RL and it's when someone is at their youth where they decide which sport to watch sop if we can get them young to follow league by using the Pirates brand then they may stay with the game indefinitely.

West Coast Pirates sounds better than "Western Reds" or "Perth Reds" anyway. It also doesn't make much sense for a side that won't even be all red like the Rugby Union "Reds" and it doesn't really mean anything either.

 

[flippikat]

Queensland always borrow names though - Broncos, Cowboys, Titans are all cookie cutter lifted from the NFL.

True, but the NFL also has Steelers and Raiders. Besides which, the NFL teams you mention are not just in a separate sport, they're in a separate country from Australia as well.

Historically both the AFL/VFL & NSWRL/NRL have both had Magpies & Tigers in their competitions. Not so much of an issue when the comps were largely suburban, but not ideal when the top tier goes nationwide.

Now the duplication of the Tigers nickname is something we'll probably manage ok, but there's no point in making more clashes of names.