West Coast Pirates Bid News

[Bukowski]

What the f**k are you on about?

I pointed out that the Wildcats made the finals for 35 years in a row. It's easy for a team to build a supporter base when it's had 35 years of sustained success. Good luck getting a Perth-based NRL club to have that sort of success from day one!

The costs of operating an NRL club are light years ahead of what is needed to be dominant in the NBL. Perth Wildcats have been playing out of great arenas since the 1990s. A Perth-based NRL club will be playing out of a shithole.

And you thought the were called the heat. LOL
You know it all.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why is league having trouble matching the AFL in Qld and NSW? Why do we have a strict budget in the heartland states?
Youoouur deathriding of the code is getting a bit ridiculous and boring.

Because AwFuL generates more revenue from its broadcast rights deal, ticketing, merchandise and membership. The extra revenue is used to develop the game at the grassroots level. Our game cannot compete with that because we don't have the income. We cannot spend what we don't have.

Are you stupid enough to think the ARLC can pluck money out of its arse?

 

[Bukowski]

Because AwFuL generates more revenue from its broadcast rights deal, ticketing, merchandise and membership. The extra revenue is used to develop the game at the grassroots level. Our game cannot compete with that because we don't have the income. We cannot spend what we don't have.

Are you stupid enough to think the ARLC can pluck money out of its arse?

Gee I wonder how the AFL got that income? Did they just stay in Vic and SA? Shore up the heartlands? Yoouur a dumb merkin

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Gee I wonder how the AFL got that income? Did they just stay in Vic and SA? Shore up the heartlands? Yoouur a dumb merkin

They generated the income from having more active fans investing their time and money in the game, you idiot!

If you think the money fell into their lap because they added teams in Brisbane and Sydney then you're as dumb as f**k.

AwFuL games in Melbourne involving local teams average 225k TV viewers. Their attendances as twice the size of the NRL.

This year was the best attended season in NRL/ARL/NSWRL history. AwFuL/VFL have had around 70 seasons that generated higher attendances.

AFL Tables - Crowds 1921-2024

Rugby League Tables / Attendances

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

1.2m people are members of an AwFuL club.

State of the Game 2023: AFL Attendance, Social Media, Support, Participation, Memberships and TV Ratings

After a record breaking season and a huge grand final, its time to wrap up the season with a nice big bow, with new records set in Membership, Attendance and tv ratings. Social Media Collingwood le…

www.footyindustry.com

316k people are members of an NRL club.

State of the Game 2023: NRL & NRLW TV Ratings, Attendances, Social Media, Memberships and Finance

Well after one of the best grand finals seen in many a year, its time to say goodbye to the NRL season and hello to the forthcoming internationals, but first we take a good look at the metrics from…

www.footyindustry.com

For every person that's a member of an NRL club, there are 4 people signed up with an AwFuL club.

Fumbleball can afford to prop up unviable teams like the Giants and Suns because they have a variable funding scheme that takes from the rich and gives to the poor. NRL will never have a system like this because every club has a stake in the ARLC. The rich clubs will vote it down. It's why every club gets the same amount.

North Melbourne will overtake St Kilda as the AFL’s most heavily funded Victorian club this year in the AFL’s latest distribution of variable funding to the 18 clubs.

And the same four power clubs – Collingwood, Richmond, West Coast and Hawthorn – again will not receive any additional dollars this year, besides the base distribution of between $10.5 million to $11 million.

Expansion teams Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney will remain well ahead of the 16 other clubs on the funding ladder, receiving around $25 million each in 2023, or more than $14 million in extra funding.

AFL 2023: Funding for every AFL club revealed

amp.theage.com.au

 

[Bukowski]

They generated the income from having more active fans investing their time and money in the game, you idiot!

If you think the money fell into their lap because they added teams in Brisbane and Sydney then you're as dumb as f**k.

AwFuL games in Melbourne involving local teams average 225k TV viewers. Their attendances as twice the size of the NRL.

This year was the best attended season in NRL/ARL/NSWRL history. AwFuL/VFL have had around 70 seasons that generated higher attendances.

AFL Tables - Crowds 1921-2024

Rugby League Tables / Attendances

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

1.2m people are members of an AwFuL club.

State of the Game 2023: AFL Attendance, Social Media, Support, Participation, Memberships and TV Ratings

After a record breaking season and a huge grand final, its time to wrap up the season with a nice big bow, with new records set in Membership, Attendance and tv ratings. Social Media Collingwood le…

www.footyindustry.com

316k people are members of an NRL club.

State of the Game 2023: NRL & NRLW TV Ratings, Attendances, Social Media, Memberships and Finance

Well after one of the best grand finals seen in many a year, its time to say goodbye to the NRL season and hello to the forthcoming internationals, but first we take a good look at the metrics from…

www.footyindustry.com

For every person that's a member of an NRL club, there are 4 people signed up with an AwFuL club.

Fumbleball can afford to prop up unviable teams like the Giants and Suns because they have a variable funding scheme that takes from the rich and gives to the poor. NRL will never have a system like this because every club has a stake in the ARLC. The rich clubs will vote it down. It's why every club gets the same amount.

North Melbourne will overtake St Kilda as the AFL’s most heavily funded Victorian club this year in the AFL’s latest distribution of variable funding to the 18 clubs.​

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And the same four power clubs – Collingwood, Richmond, West Coast and Hawthorn – again will not receive any additional dollars this year, besides the base distribution of between $10.5 million to $11 million.​

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Expansion teams Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney will remain well ahead of the 16 other clubs on the funding ladder, receiving around $25 million each in 2023, or more than $14 million in extra funding.​

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AFL 2023: Funding for every AFL club revealed

amp.theage.com.au

Ah well, you keep championing AFL. Good for you.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Ah well, you keep championing AFL. Good for you.

You're the dickhead telling us to be more like AwFuL!

I'm telling you that the two games aren't equal. AwFuL have more revenue to spend on vanity projects, such as expanding into RL territory. The last thing we can afford to do is waste resources on wasteland states that don't give a f**k about the game. Rugby union tried to take on RL and AwFuL 25 years ago. They bit off more than they could chew. Now they're f**ked.

 

[MugaB]

It's only Albo's idea that will prevent Perth being no18.

And the lack of talent, effort and pokie dens, all things Easts tigers, Ns Bears and basically any other bid that arises that isn't WA

 

[Canard]

- So $100M spent on taking a two games a year to Vegas is

- Buying a knock shop next door to the Caxo for $25M is

But we are to broke to invest in grassroots footy even in our heartland states?

 

[mongoose]

Because AwFuL generates more revenue from its broadcast rights deal, ticketing, merchandise and membership. The extra revenue is used to develop the game at the grassroots level. Our game cannot compete with that because we don't have the income. We cannot spend what we don't have.

Are you stupid enough to think the ARLC can pluck money out of its arse?

doesn't game day tickets, merch and membership revenue mostly go to the clubs though, not AFL itself?

Their broadcast money is bigger because of a few reasons - they have longer games and more stops for ads and probably because they are just a more professional and independent organisation with wider coverage across the states and territories and the 5 city metros.

 

[Perth Red]

Donkey sure likes to talk up afl and down NRl doesnt he? Always amuses me when so called Rl fans have zero faith in the product and its ability to attract new customers.
As they say with friends like these who needs enemies?

AFL earns more media money and sponsorship $'s because they have created a perception of being the countries national footy code and have a 5 metro reach. But hey there's always Vegas!

 

[Bukowski]

And the lack of talent, effort and pokie dens, all things Easts tigers, Ns Bears and basically any other bid that arises that isn't WA

Talent is debatable. Your having a laugh with effort.
Pokies. You know rugby league survived for decades in QLD before pokies were legal there. The NSWRL even brought the Broncos into the comp before they could have pokies.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

doesn't game day tickets, merch and membership revenue mostly go to the clubs though, not AFL itself?

Their broadcast money is bigger because of a few reasons - they have longer games and more stops for ads and probably because they are just a more professional and independent organisation with wider coverage across the states and territories and the 5 city metros.

Has it ever occurred to you that having a 5 city metro reach isn't the factor you think it is?

If it was then the broadcasters would have pressed the NRL to develop one decades ago. News Ltd shut down teams in Adelaide and Perth. If these areas are so vital then News Ltd would have kept them around.

Media analyst Colin Smith said the NRL should avoid Adelaide and Perth. He recommended a third Brisbane team, a second one in Melbourne and New Zealand. Plus one in PNG. Other than Melbourne 2, it looks like the ARLC are heading in his direction.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Talent is debatable. Your having a laugh with effort.
Pokies. You know rugby league survived for decades in QLD before pokies were legal there. The NSWRL even brought the Broncos into the comp before they could have pokies.

The BRL went bust trying to keep their best players in the 80s you moron!

Goss legalised pokies in 1991. It saved a few BRL clubs from going belly up. Redcliffe were in a dire position by the end of the 80s. Wynnum and Ipswich almost folded in the 90s. It was too late for Valleys, Brothers, Logan and Wests. Souths almost went under in the 00s.

Logan were bankrupted by an exorbitant 15 year lease with the LCC for Meakin Park. Entering A grade the same year the Broncos debited in the NSWRL was a huge mistake. Media coverage of the BRL dried up. Sponsorship revenue and fan support declined. Without pokies there wouldn't be any clubs.

 

[mongoose]

Has it ever occurred to you that having a 5 city metro reach isn't the factor you think it is?

If it was then the broadcasters would have pressed the NRL to develop one decades ago. News Ltd shut down teams in Adelaide and Perth. If these areas are so vital then News Ltd would have kept them around.

Media analyst Colin Smith said the NRL should avoid Adelaide and Perth. He recommended a third Brisbane team, a second one in Melbourne and New Zealand. Plus one in PNG. Other than Melbourne 2, it looks like the ARLC are heading in his direction.

a media analyst recommending a team in PNG lol who pays this clown?

You also need to stop bringing up things that happened during Super League - 25 years ago, it doesn't apply today. News ltd and the ARL killed off QLD clubs too, remember moron? A lot of poor decisions in the late 90s...

 

[Perth Red]

a media analyst recommending a team in PNG lol who pays this clown?

But they'll be so valuable to fox, all those new subscriptions lol
Its looking very likely PNG will be next in as the NRL just cant look that tax payer gift horse in the mouth, I see Abdo was at the Kumuls game yesterday. Best strap in and watch this train crash happen lol

 

[mongoose]

But they'll be so valuable to fox, all those new subscriptions lol
Its looking very likely PNG will be next in as the NRL just cant look that tax payer gift horse in the mouth, I see Abdo was at the Kumuls game yesterday. Best strap in and watch this train crash happen lol

PNG may increase the player pool, give RL some more international competition but media revenue is the last thing it offers.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

a media analyst recommending a team in PNG lol who pays this clown?

Which bid is favoured to get the 18th licence?

You also need to stop bringing up things that happened during Super League - 25 years ago, it doesn't apply today. News ltd and the ARL killed off QLD clubs too, remember moron? A lot of poor decisions in the late 90s...

News Ltd killed off the Crushers and Chargers to protect the Broncos.

It turned out to be a huge mistake. One that they've rectified. They haven't shown any indication that they're willing to bring back a Perth team.

All of these facts get in the way of your delusional vision. It must piss you off to no end.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

PNG may increase the player pool, give RL some more international competition but media revenue is the last thing it offers.

What makes your one and only brain cell think the media will make money from a Perth-based NRL team?

Perth won't be able to host a game on Thursday and Friday. The one timeslot it's apparently good for is limited to PTV. That makes it worthless to FTA.

If it comes down to the bid that provides the most benefit to the Australian broadcasters then there's only one option. Brisbane 3. NZ2 is good for the NZ broadcasters.

 

[mongoose]

Which bid is favoured to get the 18th licence?



News Ltd killed off the Crushers and Chargers to protect the Broncos.

It turned out to be a huge mistake. One that they've rectified. They haven't shown any indication that they're willing to bring back a Perth team.

All of these facts get in the way of your delusional vision. It must piss you off to no end.

hmm took them 25 years to rectify... 25 years of thinking Brisbane can only support 1 team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

hmm took them 25 years to rectify... 25 years of thinking Brisbane can only support 1 team.

Now they want a third Brisbane team.

No interest for one in Perth.

What does that tell you?