Who shot Isaac Luke?

[BunniesMan]

not smart at all, we dont want win at all costs like italian football

The comparisons with diving in soccer are geniused. Soccer players dive from LITERALLY no contact what so ever and nuffy referees award penalties/cards.

In Rugby League if you dive and the video ref has a look at it while you're down, he's not going to give you a penalty if there is nothing there. If Luke doesn't get smacked on the face by an illegal tackle, no penalty and he's told to get up. End of story. Nothing like soccer.

 

[S.S.T.I.D]

Reading the live updates on LU's front page this morning, I was expecting a much, much 'better' dive than this. I was disappointed.

Questionable sportsmanship, but unquestionably a penalty.

Move on

Clearly a lot of the hyperbole in this thread is due to the fact that it was Souths, so I'm not surprised by the reaction on here.

I'm sure, though, that the majority of people who post on here, being rugby league fans, do understand that you can't hit blokes in the head in this sport. If you hit a bloke in the head it is a penalty, whether it is in the 1st minute, 41st minute or 81st minute.

I think a strong argument could be made for the fact that the Cowboys shouldn't have even been in the situation that they found themselves in given that they were playing against a team that had 7 walk up starters unavailable and one bloke with a broken hand from the 50th minute.

 

[M2D2]

He was hit high. People claiming it wasnt penalty worthy are geniused.
He stayed down to assure victory. People claiming he didnt are geniused.
End of thread.

 

[thorson1987]

http://www.nrl.com/luke-in-trouble-from-mum-after-nrl-dive/tabid/10874/newsid/64349/default.aspx

Luke in trouble from mum after NRL dive

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Ben Horne AAP Sat, Aug 20, 2011 - 12:29 PM




Accused of taking a dive in Friday night's controversial NRL thriller, South Sydney hooker Issac Luke says the spray he copped from North Queensland was nothing compared to the dressing down he received from his own mother after the 26-24 win.
At the post-match press conference, Cowboys coach Neil Henry and captain Johnathan Thurston didn't mince words about Luke's reaction to being hit high in golden point extra time, but on the drive home it was mother Sharron who cut the deepest.


"Yeah she said, 'I didn't know you were Russell Crowe's nephew,'" Luke said of being bluntly compared to the Rabbitohs' actor owner, despite nursing a bloodied jaw he initially thought was broken.


Luke said claims by the Cowboys, and his own flesh and blood, that he took a dive were wrong, as he was genuinely stung by James Segeyaro's accidental contact over the top.


However the Kiwi international commendably conceded he might have attempted to get to his feet if the match, and the Rabbitohs' season, wasn't on the line in golden point.


Despite being injured, Luke admitted he stayed down longer than usual at the encouragement of teammates, who could sense they were about to be handed a dramatic win.


"I didn't want to lay down there but a few of the boys were saying stay down but I'm not a big fan of laying down anyway," said an honest Luke at Souths' recovery session on Saturday.


"It was a bit staged that one. My mum and I watched that after and I looked at my mum and I put my head down, and she was just laughing her head off.
"I thought I'd broken my jaw. I'm not a big fan of laying down anyway but I couldn't eat last night. I had to drink soup, my white mouth guard was red with blood. I was going to eat breakfast with my kids but I had to drink."


In the definitive moment of the match, Luke lay motionless on the ground after being accidentally struck by the Cowboys' replacement hooker.


The pause in play allowed video referee Sean Hampstead to view the incident, and he sent the message down that Segeyaro should go on report, meaning a penalty kick was gifted to Souths from right in front, 30 metres out - keeping their season alive.


On the field, a furious Thurston yelled at the referee that the tackle was nothing more than a "f***ing love tap" and Henry described the incident as no worse than numerous other tackles in the course of a match.


Segeyaro, left shattered by conceding the penalty which cost his team the chance to cement a top-four spot, entered Souths' sheds after the match to talk to Luke.
"He blew up at the time but then after I just told him: `You know I wouldn't just stay down there for nothing,'" he said.


"He came and asked while we were in the showers, 'did I get you a good one?' And I said 'yeah.'"


Nathan Merritt (quad) is unlikely to play next week, but John Sutton (hand) is a better chance of taking on Brisbane.

 

[RHCP]

It was an absolute love tap. There's no grey areas with high tackles though, if its in the head its a penalty. Bit unlucky on the Cows part but thats the way it is.

But to go down like that though was entirely unnecessary and embarrassing for mine. His grandmother could probably slap harder, but he acted like Segeyaro was Ali. I like Luke as a player but if one of the Knights did that I'd be filthy.

'It was a bit staged' - 'I thought I broke my jaw '

Can't be both. I know which quote I believe.

 

[BunniesMan]

I thought I'd broken my jaw. I'm not a big fan of laying down anyway but I couldn't eat last night. I had to drink soup, my white mouth guard was red with blood. I was going to eat breakfast with my kids but I had to drink."

http://www.nrl.com/luke-in-trouble-...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

There you go. He didn't dive (if you know what a dive actually is). He got hurt by it. Did he stay down longer than necessary? Maybe. But I support that 110%. All he acheived by staying down was giving it time to go to the ref and have the right decision made. Otherwise we'd have been robbed because the high tackle was missed.

"He blew up at the time but then after I just told him: `You know I wouldn't just stay down there for nothing,'" he said.
"He came and asked while we were in the showers, 'did I get you a good one?' And I said 'yeah.'"

Even Segeyaro knows he got him.

 

[BunniesMan]

Noone should think less of Luke, as a result of his actions the correct decision was made by refs which otherwise wouldn't have been made. It is a GOOD thing.

 

[Parra Pride]

http://www.nrl.com/luke-in-trouble-...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

There you go. He didn't dive (if you know what a dive actually is). He got hurt by it. Did he stay down longer than necessary? Maybe. But I support that 110%. All he acheived by staying down was giving it time to go to the ref and have the right decision made. Otherwise we'd have been robbed because the high tackle was missed.

Even Segeyaro knows he got him.

"It was a bit staged that one.

He can't have it both ways.

 

[thorson1987]

http://www.nrl.com/luke-in-trouble-...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

There you go. He didn't dive (if you know what a dive actually is). He got hurt by it. Did he stay down longer than necessary? Maybe. But I support that 110%. All he acheived by staying down was giving it time to go to the ref and have the right decision made. Otherwise we'd have been robbed because the high tackle was missed.

Even Segeyaro knows he got him.

No one is disputing the fact that it should be a penalty. (provided that the ref, who was right in front of it and had a clear view, had blown it)

The problem is is that in no way was it sufficient to be put on report, therefore the video ref is unable to give the penalty.

 

[thorson1987]

Noone should think less of Luke, as a result of his actions the correct decision was made by refs which otherwise wouldn't have been made. It is a GOOD thing.

your kidding, i can live with the odd mistake by refs, hell they are human.

But when a player intentionally stays down to milk a penalty it doesnt sit well with me, no matter who the player is.

 

[BunniesMan]

No one is disputing the fact that it should be a penalty. (provided that the ref, who was right in front of it and had a clear view, had blown it)

The problem is is that in no way was it sufficient to be put on report, therefore the video ref is unable to give the penalty.

The on report rule is a dumb technicality. If in a break of play the video ref sees something he should be able to whisper a word to the ref for the sake of making the right decision.

But he'll be right at the judiciary, no harm done.

 

[BunniesMan]

your kidding, i can live with the odd mistake by refs, hell they are human.

But when a player intentionally stays down to milk a penalty it doesnt sit well with me, no matter who the player is.

Milk? Like the word dive, that implies getting a penalty where there isn't one. That's what they do in soccer. That's not what happened here. All Luke did was help the referess arrive to the right decision. Otherwise the news this morning (especially if we lost) is how the refs missed a high tackle right infront of the posts, how they were too gutless to make a big call, etc etc etc.

Yes it was self serving, but it was correct. That's what matters. We deserved a penalty there, and as a result we deserved the 26-24 scoreline.

 

[redandgreenduck]

He can't have it both ways.

Why not ...you do;-)

 

[Vic Mackey]

So his team mates were telling him to stay down?

Rabbitohs are admitting they cheat

 

[BunniesMan]

So his team mates were telling him to stay down?

Rabbitohs are admitting they cheat

It's not cheating. It's helping the refs come to the right decision. If there was nothing in the tackle, the video ref wouldnt have given the penalty.

 

[Jason Maher]

And if JT had done the same thing up the other end to win the Cows the game, I wonder how the Souffs fans would have reacted?

 

[jono]

I might get howled down for this suggestion, but maybe they should look at making all penalties in golden point, differential penalties? That way we get rid of Isaac Luke's theatrics, but if a player gets hit in the head, they still get a penalty.

Not howling you down , but what if this happened in the 79th or 80th minute? It's still the same offence and it still wins them the game.
I think that's why their is an inherent flaw in the golden try concept , it can kind of develop into a free-for-all in conceding penalties (albeit non-reportable ones)

 

[Mader45]

The people saying the hit dazed him are missing some pretty obvious evidence.

How often do you get knocked out or dazed but still have the insight to cling tightly to the football just in case a penalty isnt called.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Of course it's a dive. He has to dive in order to insure he gets the penalty.

It's sad but that's the way the game is heading.

 

[morri (cWo)]

one of the most gutless things i've seen on the footy field. Up there with danny williams