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Who will be the Warriors new coach?

Rich102

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I would be really surprised if anyone had been offered the job yet.
Just my opinion.
 

Fufu Andronez

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Here is what I would do. Give the team to Payten for 2021. Because based on my understanding these are the coaches off contract at the end of 2021:
  • Craig Bellamy
  • Craig Fitzgibbon
  • Wayne Bennett
  • Brad Arthur
  • Paul Green
  • Des Hasler
  • Madge Maguire
  • Shane Flanagan
  • John Morris

None of those blokes are breaking contract, and THEY ARE ALL better then the currently available applicants. I'd give the job to Payten for 21 and then target a big fish and Payten can step aside and be an assistant or move on to another head coaching job.

If you want a link to the above google "zero tackle nrl coaches". The link to their site doesnt work here
 

Benek

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Yeah, the timing does seem to make sense to hold off a year of coach selection

However, it doesn't help our player recruitment efforts. Without a good coach, we can't get good players interested in coming, which means we lose another year on building the roster. Which doesn't align with the coaching availability of 2022, since we have a large percentage of our roster off contract after this season. We need that new coach to shape roster and recruitment asap.
 

Fufu Andronez

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Yeah, the timing does seem to make sense to hold off a year of coach selection

However, it doesn't help our player recruitment efforts. Without a good coach, we can't get good players interested in coming, which means we lose another year on building the roster. Which doesn't align with the coaching availability of 2022, since we have a large percentage of our roster off contract after this season. We need that new coach to shape roster and recruitment asap.
I haven't done any research toback this up but I'd also say that the 2022 player market is stronger than the 2021 player market. The only name of note I can think of is Fifita and he ain't coming.

The more I think about it, I'd keep my powder dry and go for one of those big dog coaches for 2022 and let them build the roster.

We aren't fixing this ship in 2021 with any of the names currently available. Player or coach.
 

Penrose_11

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Not a stupid idea. From memory when we signed Kearney we were in similar situation where we supposedly offered Bellemy the world but he was tied up with Storm for the extra year. Deep down none of us will be totally happy unless we get Craig over the line. For me everyone else is only 2nd best.
 

Rich102

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Problem is if we leave the caretaker coach in place for 2021:
We are not attracting top players to the club.
We may lose our preferred coach to another club.
The club are seen to be sitting on their hands.

They got rid of Kearney for a reason; I hope it is a good one.
 

TheDMC

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Can we not throw a massive contract now at some of the big dog coach list to come on board from 2022, when they are available? And Payten keeps the seat warm until then. With a quality coach locked in for 2022, player retention and signing should be okay.
 

Leber

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Can we not throw a massive contract now at some of the big dog coach list to come on board from 2022, when they are available? And Payten keeps the seat warm until then. With a quality coach locked in for 2022, player retention and signing should be okay.

This.

In order to recruit talent, we need a good coach. A rookie coach long term, will not inspire anyone to come to a club that, for a lack of better word, is shithouse.
 

JJ

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Here is what I would do. Give the team to Payten for 2021. Because based on my understanding these are the coaches off contract at the end of 2021:
  • Craig Bellamy
  • Craig Fitzgibbon
  • Wayne Bennett
  • Brad Arthur
  • Paul Green
  • Des Hasler
  • Madge Maguire
  • Shane Flanagan
  • John Morris

None of those blokes are breaking contract, and THEY ARE ALL better then the currently available applicants. I'd give the job to Payten for 21 and then target a big fish and Payten can step aside and be an assistant or move on to another head coaching job.

If you want a link to the above google "zero tackle nrl coaches". The link to their site doesnt work here
We'd end up with Morris. Who's he better than?
 

Penrose Warrior

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Can we not throw a massive contract now at some of the big dog coach list to come on board from 2022, when they are available? And Payten keeps the seat warm until then. With a quality coach locked in for 2022, player retention and signing should be okay.

100%.

This is what (apparently, so the rumours go - I remember one learned member insisting it was true) should have happened with Bellamy for 2014 after Bluey went. As a fan I would be completely on board with that.

It would have to be Maguire or Bellamy, I can't see many of the others coming. Maybe Green.
 

Tongue

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100%.

This is what (apparently, so the rumours go - I remember one learned member insisting it was true) should have happened with Bellamy for 2014 after Bluey went. As a fan I would be completely on board with that.

It would have to be Maguire or Bellamy, I can't see many of the others coming. Maybe Green.

Its Maguire for me. Theres a distinct lack of talk about him to make me think hes the real target. Silence is deafening.
 

Rich102

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Warriors owner Mark Robinson has opened up on the controversial decision to sack former coach Stephen Kearney, saying he needs "someone with some personality" at the helm of the club.

Kearney's dismissal last month came somewhat out of the blue given the challenging circumstances facing the Warriors this season, and the influential role he played in their relocation to Australia due to the coronavirus pandemic.

But on the field, the Kiwi side's wildly fluctuating form remained a major concern and Robinson, whose company Autex Industries took full control of the Warriors late last year, told 1 NEWS that Kearney was not the right fit for the club.

"[It was] just the wrong personality for the people that we have, the club that we've got and where I wanna go," he said.

"I need someone with some personality."


Assistant coach Todd Payten has replaced Kearney in an interim basis, with no timeline set to find a permanent head coach.

However, the Warriors are aiming high, with Robinson revealing an approach was made to Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy, which was rejected.
The Gold Coast-based businessman also addressed the makeup of the playing roster for next year, confirming a Stuff report that off-contract duo Blake Green and Gerard Beale will not be re-signed.

Both players are managed by deregistered agent Isaac Moses, whose influence at the club has come under question given Kearney and two other players are also on his books.


"[Blake] Green and [Gerard] Beale and a few of them are going, and we're gonna be really, really cautious of how we approach any other players," Robsinson told 1 NEWS.

The Warriors continue their campaign against fellow NRL battlers Brisbane on Saturday.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/leagu...rriors-owner-on-why-stephen-kearney-had-to-go
 

JJ

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yeah, he didn't inspire much confidence...

I have no insights into Kearney's personality, it's the fact that he was a rubbish head coach that's the issue... if we go my media interviews, Kearney's personality in those seems little different to Bennett, Hasler, Bellamy etc... not everyone comes off like Phil Gould, but that doesn't mean they can't coach..

But there we go, he wants personality... that might mean Matt Elliott is on his was back, lol
 

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