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Why Queensland have won eight straight

Knightmare

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You're delusional.

Your response says more about your inability to understand a logical argument and the obvious chip on your shoulder than anything else...
 

Joker's Wild

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Ha ... so you're crediting Gus for inspiring Queensland to eight series wins. That'll do me. Typical NSW - now you're saying that a NSW coach is responsible for Queensland winning eight straight (oh sorry I already said that).

Proves my point entirely.

lol this is pretty much what you implied before you hypocrite
 

some11

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To answer the OP, QLD put the ball over the tryline and through the goalposts more times than NSW.
 

Knightmare

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:lol:

You have no rebuttal of his logical argument so you post a photo of a crying baby as a response. You should write for The Courier Mail...
 
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:lol:

You have no rebuttal of his logical argument so you post a photo of a crying baby as a response. You should write for The Courier Mail...

Originally Posted by Nuffy
Part 1 re GI


Of greater significance is the fact that the NSWRL decided not to push the point on Inglis' eligibility after their Queensland counterparts convinced them that the future of Origin was at stake.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...712-2pvx3.html

Thats after 2 mins of searching.



This is Proof of something? Anything at all?

Hardly.....

Let's examine the crucial paragraphs of that article:




"Why did the NSWRL eventually let the matter go and allow Inglis to play for another state? There's a belief from Blues officials that Storm founder - and proud Queenslander - John Ribot had been in the young player's ear. In the years since Inglis made his debut in 2006, and after the Andrew Johns racism scandal in 2010, the player himself has said Queensland's predilection for indigenous players made him warm to the Maroons jumper. Of greater significance is the fact that the NSWRL decided not to push the point on Inglis' eligibility after their Queensland counterparts convinced them that the future of Origin was at stake."


The last sentence is interesting. An assertion is made, but there are no names attached to the participants of this exchange. If the said 'convincing' of the NSWRL by 'their QLD counterparts' actually occurred, then we should have the date, the place and the names of all those involved on both sides specified. Without that detail it is an assertion which appears to be quite vague. The rest of the article goes into painstaking detail about every aspect of Inglis' life in Bowraville, minutely tracing GI's friends, relatives, associates and his local Rugby League involvement. However, when we get to the accusation that the QRL 'convinced' the NSWRL suddenly the article veers away from fine verifiable detail to a vague assertion.



The next paragraph in that article:



"Those familiar with the situation say some of the Maroons heaviest hitters highlighted the fact NSW was beginning establishing a dynasty, having won three consecutive series with a fourth in 2006 looking most likely. At the time, the decision to release Inglis to Queensland was part of the big picture. As it stands, the Maroons are contemplating eight series wins in a row - with Inglis their most consistent performer."



Here again the previously rigorous investigation of Inglis' background degenerates into vague unverifiable assertions which cannot be regarded as references let alone proof.

'Those familiar with the situation'.

Who are the un-named participants? The situation is alleged to have occured. So tell us; How did it occur? What was the time-frame? Who are those familar with the situation? Who were "the Maroons heaviest hitters"? Why aren't the individuals involved given a chance to speak for themselves and detail what took place? This assertion's allegation strikes at the core of the one of the most contentious selections in recent Australian Rugby League history and involves the game's showpiece- State Of Origin - yet now the painstaking expose of Inglis' NSW roots suddenly deserts the 'dog after the bone'/ 'let's find the individuals who can tell us' approach and serves up nothing that can be investigated or verified.


Proof? Proof of nothing whatsoever.
 

Big Pete

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There are various reasons why the Maroons are enjoying this dynasty. Dazzat touched on a few examples and he'd agree that there are various.

Game II 2006 was the defining moment.

Mal gave Darren Lockyer, Petero Civoniceiva and Steve Price at ultimatum - sink or swim. Go out there and lead the team like Mal believe they could or make way for the future. What followed was one of the most emphatic wins in Origin history. Not only did Lockyer play well, he was rewarded with Man of the Match honours and would later be recognised as the player of the series.

Gus was merely one voice. There was plenty of criticism from media personalities and ex-players but Lockyer answered them with one of the best seasons a player has ever had.

It's a testament to his character.

However, Lockyer was just one story in this dynasty.

If I was to select one reason why this Queensland outfit has been able to best their southern brethren for 8 years it's that Mal has cultivated a culture and belief that cannot be matched.

New South Wales have the culture but until they find the belief and can deal the killer blow, the shield will remain at the spiritual home of Origin.
 

Knightmare

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I think they have had the belief this year and last year Pete. Just not the player/s. And a little extra luck in their direction. This years' decider, both teams were pretty evenly matched during the game and it was only the fact they were slightly behind at the 80th minute that worked against NSW. For the second occasion in this series, Qld chanced their hand much less in attack than what we'd grown accustomed to...
 
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Big Pete

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No, I know they were. Wasn't what I was responding to but it does outline a difference between the two states.

This NSW squad think they can win the series.

Queensland know they can.
 

Knightmare

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Oh right. Well I don't agree with that. I think they also believed they could win the deciding games this year and last year too- it only came down to small things and they know what they were. I don't think they are in a state of "We don't know what needs to be done to beat these guys"...
 

Big Pete

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The excuses keep changing year in year out. You'll point at shortcoming and then another will pop up.

There's definitely a mental block there. It appears everytime the team requires a clutch play and cannot pull it out.

The Maroons know what it takes, the key players have done it 8 times now and until NSW can get those uncharacteristic errors out of their game in those situations I can't see the tide turning.
 

Dazzat

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lol this is pretty much what you implied before you hypocrite

Hardly. The day I imply Gould has done anything for Queensland will the day I get suited up for a straight jacket.

Here's the rub ...

Gould wrote the column with the intention of ending Lockyer's representative career. If Lockyer had retired after Gould's article, Gould would have been happy.

What Knightmare has said is that Gould has inspired NSW players by sinking the boot in - and this is what he did for Lockyer.

Hope you can see the difference.

Oh ... and what a surprise. Come back to this thread and we're back to whinging about Greg Inglis.
 

firechild

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After Mr Gould made this bold prediction, Darren Lockyer went on to win another two grand finals with the Broncos, four state of origins, numerous test series of Australia and won the golden boot.

I'm still trying to work out when the other premiership was for Lockyer post-2005. How about you put your hand out and start counting. Here's a guide just in case you get lost.

sixfingers.jpg
 

TheVelourFog

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Hardly. The day I imply Gould has done anything for Queensland will the day I get suited up for a straight jacket.

Here's the rub ...

Gould wrote the column with the intention of ending Lockyer's representative career. If Lockyer had retired after Gould's article, Gould would have been happy.

What Knightmare has said is that Gould has inspired NSW players by sinking the boot in - and this is what he did for Lockyer.

Hope you can see the difference.

Oh ... and what a surprise. Come back to this thread and we're back to whinging about Greg Inglis.

hey Dazzat that Point Cartwright in your pic?
 

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