T-Boon
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Talking shit? Apologies, I though this was a forum where we are allowed to exchange ideas.
Does a Bear shit in the woods?
Talking shit? Apologies, I though this was a forum where we are allowed to exchange ideas.
Talking shit? Apologies, I though this was a forum where we are allowed to exchange ideas.
You are just thinking about it as to how it would turn out if they played the game the way the play now. i.e. flat with lots of forward passes from the ruck - hitting the advantage line with no consequences. But the whole point is they would need to adjust the role of the dummy half (DH) and first receiver because no more easy metres that way.
The DHs primary skill would be to get good swift ball to the first receiver who would need to be considerably deeper into their own territory than the first receiver is in todays game (so we have instantly solved the forward pass from dummy half problem). As Siv said the key runner would be at least 1 pass off the ruck. The guy running either outside or inside the first reciever.
The markers job would not just be to contain the DH they would also need to get wider of the ruck and cut of metres on the edge. So if the DH is getting the ball out there and they are making gains then the marker would need to drift out away from the ruck along the advantage line. So some space would open up for a crafty DH.
If they brought in 3 markers plus not needing to be square I would also have the rest 15 metres back. That way if the 3 markers just focus on cutting off the DH or one out hit up then there are still easy metres a couple out.
The game is fine. The professional game needs to fix up their refereeing methods and it will be fine too.
Yes you can’t increase the length of the field because it has to be 100m plus in goal. The width of the field however? It’s roughly 68m but would a 80m width be so bad? It would add another 1200m2 to the field and players running around more. Clearly could only happen to field that aren’t already rectangle.
You left one out, get the markers straight.I haven't seen any good ideas. You are all talking shit.
The rules are fine as they are. Markers anywhere? The dummy half wouldn't be able to move! Every pass would get intercepted.
The problem is they don't enforce the rules. Don't let them hold down so long, make them play the ball with their foot, penalise them whenever they are offside, sin bin for deliberate penalties etc. And don't listen to the whingers when they say there are too may penalties. The only reason there are penalties is because players and coaches cheat the rules.
Interchange is fine at 8. There is less fatigue because of how slow the play-the-balls are and how many deliberate penalties teams give away. We could have 0 interchanges and it wouldn't matter much if they let players slow the ruck down longer. Enforce the rules and fatigue comes back into it.
I see crowds and I think the game is ok but could probably be a lot better.
I see scrums and I know we are a code that has not thought enough about our rules.
Crowds are a problem of the administration, not the on-field product.
There is evidence that crowds have dropped since Stormball has taken over the game. There has been a steady decline in crowds since about 2006. At a time when really they should have been growing.
We need rule changes to get rid of Storm ball. Rule changes that will reward skill and creativity over muscle, completion, structure.
Start enforcing the rules so clubs can't cheat, don't bring in stupid shit like 3 markers allowed to stand anywhere.
We need rule changes to get rid of Storm ball. Rule changes that will reward skill and creativity over muscle, completion, structure.
There is no evidence. Crowds rose steadily from 2006 to 2012 and then started dropping steadily until a big drop this year.
not really we had a success blip in 2005 probably due tot he teams that did well, then a bit of a drop followed by a resonably consistent succesful 4 season period of 2009-2012 with 16k plus avg.The decline really started in 2006. It rallied briefly around the time the NRL started pushing memberships. The decline is related to the style of play. Average points scored per game has gone down about 5 points in that same time.
not really we had a success blip in 2005 probably due tot he teams that did well, then a bit of a drop followed by a resonably consistent succesful 4 season period of 2009-2012 with 16k plus avg.
https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/summary.html
Then 2013 we started to drop and have continued to do so to our lowest ebb for many years in 2017.
So what happened 2013 onwards?
1.the game got independent ownership and new CEOs who have been extremely poor in putting fans first
Tv money has climbed significantly making clubs and nrl lazy in attracting customers
Monday nights were introduced, followed by Monday and Thursday in 2016 and then Thursday and 6pm Friday for 2017
Some of the best supported clubs have been avg last few years
Membership increases have not translated to bums on seats
the perception is game has gone soft with shoulder charge and fights removed
Multi factorial reasons but if they drop again this year the game is in deep sht.
The decline really started in 2006. It rallied briefly around the time the NRL started pushing memberships. The decline is related to the style of play. Average points scored per game has gone down about 5 points in that same time.
People should try to think about the rules as if we were starting from scratch and they don't have the comfort of what they have been use to.
If you were starting from scratch why would 2 markers make sense but 3 markers make no sense. The mouse trap still gets used so you can have 3 or more in the ruck on attack.
And why would being square make sense. There isn't any corresponding rule on the attacking team. The dummy half does not have to be square. The play the ball often gets moved side ways along the advantage line.
We need to give the defence more freedom and flexibility to defend their territory and more decisions to make.