Xbox One

[Maximus]

Or it would likely be the $10-15 that are currently charged for online passes. And once a used game is 'activated' on another system / profile... Then the game won't work on the previous systems. Or they stick with needing the disc to start the game.

The Microsoft VP has explained it.

Harrison then explained what happens when you want to take that game beyond the borders of your own home and into a friend's place.

"I can come to your house and I can put the disc into your machine and I can sign in as me and we can play the game," he explained.

"The bits are on your hard drive. At the end of the play session, when I take my disc home - or even if I leave it with you - if you want to continue to play that game [on your profile] then you have to pay for it. The bits are already on your hard drive, so it's just a question of going to our [online] store and buying the game, and then it's instantly available to play.

So you can share the game, but if they want to play it on their own profile, they will have to play it after you have installed it on their system.

The next issue is what happens when you finish with a game and want either to trade it in at a store or sell it on in another way.

"We will have a system where you can take that digital content and trade a previously played game at a retail store," Harrison said. "We're not announcing the details of that today, but we will have announced in due course."

...To me, the fact that Harrison was talking about a forthcoming announcement rather than just clarifying the detail suggests that whatever strategy Microsoft does have for this second-hand resale process may involve a specific partner. Perhaps Microsoft has done some sort of deal with GameStop or a similar retail entity.

And on the internet connection:

"I think the key point to make is that Xbox One requires an internet connection, but it does not need to be connected all the time.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...cond-hand-sales-and-always-online-in-xbox-one

 

[Red&BlackBear]

The PS4 is going to blow this out of the water. It's like the SEGA Saturn all over again. Mind you if XBox folds because of this, the PS4 is only slightly better than PS3 and obviously WiiU is more family orientated, I wouldn't be surprised if/when the competition dwindles down to just Sony and Nintendo, for SEGA to blindside everyone and release some sort of console that they been secretly working on for a decade. Well one can wish anyways haha

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

It doesn't need to be online ALL the fine but it has to connect once a day so what difference does it make? I was without Internet for 2 months when I last moved

Setting up a deal with a specific store is just as bad. You're being forced to trade games to a particular company who are already ripping you off and put you further in to a take it or leave it situation.

On top of ALL this the kinnect will have a feature to determine how many people are in the room and it's rumored this will detect breaches of copyright by having say a large crowd watching a movie :lol: this is just fail after fail

After all of the backlash it's not possible for Microsoft to go with these things. They'll have to be amended or outright changed or else they make it easy for their core market to walk straight to the competition.

 

[Springs]

So if you play the game on another machine and profile after it has been installed in another it means you have to go online and buy the game? Bullshit.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Probably at full RRP which if you've seen the marketplace is ridiculously overpriced

The PS4 is going to blow this out of the water. It's like the SEGA Saturn all over again. Mind you if XBox folds because of this, the PS4 is only slightly better than PS3 and obviously WiiU is more family orientated, I wouldn't be surprised if/when the competition dwindles down to just Sony and Nintendo, for SEGA to blindside everyone and release some sort of console that they been secretly working on for a decade. Well one can wish anyways haha

Xbox won't fold but IMO it won't succeed like the 360 because of the direction to go away from game-centric to entertainment hub which has crept in over the last 18-24 months.

 

[Parra Pride]

As for the exclusives. How many are actually exclusive games and not DLC withheld for a month like it is now? How many are kinnect gimmicks? How many will actually be exclusive and not cross platform? Most Microsoft exclusives suck anyway.

This is why people like myself are waiting for E3, if they come out and announce a bunch of exclusives that rely on Kinnect imput controls, I'll happily jump over to the PS4 on launch day. If they come out and announce a bunch of hardcore gamer focused FPS, RPGs, Adventure games etc. then I'll stick with Xbox first off.

 

[Storm13]

This sums up the Xbox1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngvRxl6UxrI&feature=player_embedded

 

[BranVan3000]

Seems PS4 is up to 50% more powerful graphically and the memory system is much faster

Does this make you guys want to buy a PS4 more?

 

[Parra Pride]

Seems PS4 is up to 50% more powerful graphically and the memory system is much faster

Does this make you guys want to buy a PS4 more?

If I cared about my games looking as good as possible, I'd shell out and build a gaming PC.

My decision is based entirely on exclusives, Halo and Gears brought me to Xbox, let's see if they can come up with anything else to keep me with Xbox.

 

[Storm13]

Seems PS4 is up to 50% more powerful graphically and the memory system is much faster

Does this make you guys want to buy a PS4 more?

Considering both have 8gb of ram but it seems the xbox1 is going to waste most of that with their OS you would have to go with PS4 but don't count out Nintendo just yet as many have :crazy: if they deliver around half of the rumours about E3 that is being reported it's going to be between PS4 and Nintendo not PS4 and Xbox

 

[Parra Pride]

Considering both have 8gb of ram but it seems the xbox1 is going to waste most of that with their OS you would have to go with PS4 but don't count out Nintendo just yet as many have :crazy: if they deliver around half of the rumours about E3 that is being reported it's going to be between PS4 and Nintendo not PS4 and Xbox

Nintendo wont be at E3.

 

[Storm13]

Nintendo wont be at E3.

Oh they will be

 

[BranVan3000]

If I cared about my games looking as good as possible, I'd shell out and build a gaming PC.

My decision is based entirely on exclusives, Halo and Gears brought me to Xbox, let's see if they can come up with anything else to keep me with Xbox.

The problem with gaming PCs is a lack of games taking advantage of it.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Seems PS4 is up to 50% more powerful graphically and the memory system is much faster

Does this make you guys want to buy a PS4 more?

It's the anti-consumer shit that is turning me off the XONE bigtime. The PS4 being so much more powerful is simply going to make my decision easier.

I can't understand brand loyalty when the brand obviously doesn't care for the people buying it...

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Seems PS4 is up to 50% more powerful graphically and the memory system is much faster

Does this make you guys want to buy a PS4 more?

Performance does. Let's not forget that nobody really took advantage of the PS3 capabilities as it is, a lot of it to do with essentially dumbing down a game for the 360 to make them cost effective.

If PSN stays free and with a premium service as they do now I'll probably go back to Sony or if PSN does go to paid subscription as long as I have the option to play in "offline" mode without charge I'm in.

Bottom line for me is I buy a console to play video games on not to watch youtube or NFL or Netflix or any of that other crap that Microsoft have been concentrating on in recent years so my decision is down to PS4, PC or none at all.

 

[Ridders]

...

Haha epic.

 

[adamkungl]

Here's how this is gonna work.
I'm gonna buy the better of PS4 and Xbone within a year of release.
I'm gonna buy a WiiU as soon as as a decent Zelda or Mario is released.
And i'm gonna buy the last one when it's massively price dropped years later, for the few exclusives I missed.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

XBox should've used Batman movie names I think

XBox Begins
The Dark XBox
XBox Rises
XBox Returns
Xbox Forever

Endless potential there.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

LOLZ at Microfail and the dumbbox one

 

[MattYg1]

I think its very clear that Microsoft dont actually consider Sony their competition...

The XBOne is clearly a competative product in which they are trying to rival Apple.

Its a smug attitude that Microsoft have had for a very long time now and in a smart move by Sony they have decided to cater to gamers on a deeper level.