It's not nostalgia at all ! What you are referring to as 'nostalgia' is the core fabric and impetus of this great competition. How disrespectful! ? Without this the competition has no market resonance nor public credit points. But some can see this. Others don't!
I beg to differ. Discourse, be it parochial or water cooler chat is still a form.of support and a vote for the club or code in my books! It all helps to cultural awareness and a form of sporting loyalty as far as I'm concerned.
@Hello, I'm The Doctor is spot on - what you are describing is pure nostalgia for the NSWRL / ARL comp prior to the NRL era. If Manly (for example) go broke because they can't attract people to their dump of a ground, sell memberships or attract eyeballs to TV sets then nostalgia and water cooler talk means f@#k all to them.
Except that's a straw man and nobody wants to "dilute or reduce" anything, at worst they want to rearrange it so we can have the best of both worlds.How is anyone that wants to dilute or reduce Rugby League greatest asset right, or even partly right.
.Except the Sydney clubs didn't "build the well" alone, they became the dominant element in the country but only because of their access to pokies giving them the extra funds to buy all the competitions best players up.Leave the nostalgia out. Its fully understandable that not all people are going to think the way we do
" those that drink from the well should always remember who dug the well'
Ps They should though!
Only because the Sydney, Brisbane, and Melbourne markets are the only major markets we have a presence in, and the Brisbane and Melbourne markets are underutilised to boot.Most of the dollars that come our way is because of the Sydney market and, to a lesser extend the Brisbane marked . Our competitors would love, nothing more, than to get a bigger chunk of these main markets and you people seem to be lining up to give them that a chance
It won't work.I've no doubt you people will interpret this as negative and anti - expansionary because it isn't something that's going to happen overnight.
I'm a rugby league fan and I want to see Rugby League dominate this country - Australia's winter sport! And any one else that want to join in. And if it takes another 100 years - it takes another 100 years.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What slash and burn policy?Iv'e never heard anything more ridiculous than some slash and burn policy - aimed at what? Giving the other codes ago.
I certainly don't want to be told by my 13 year old niece that she signed up to play AFL.
That's just categorically false, ever since the Bears and Lions merger in the 90s the AFL has constantly tried to get the smaller clubs from Melbourne to relocate, at one time or another every team and their dog has been linked to Canberra, Tasmania, NQ, NZ, and the GC before the Suns were admitted into the comp...The AFL run a very successful 18 man comp and don't have any need or desire to reduce the number of teams in there heartland.
Firstly, broadcasting is going through an upheaval, more matches = more money was always a massive oversimplification but now with streaming it just isn't necessarily true at all.The more matches (quality) we supply the networks with the more they will pay. And I can't see a problem with having up to 24 team comp (everybody plays everybody once) which would be fairer than the current draw . With some teams playing once and some twice. From there a conference set up. Games between rival conferences would have the potential to be bigger than Origin. with all teams being included.
How is anyone that wants to dilute or reduce Rugby League greatest asset right, or even partly right. .
Leave the nostalgia out. Its fully understandable that not all people are going to think the way we do
" those that drink from the well should always remember who dug the well'
Ps They should though!
.
Most of the dollars that come our way is because of the Sydney market and, to a lesser extend the Brisbane marked . Our competitors would love, nothing more, than to get a bigger chunk of these main markets and you people seem to be lining up to give them that a chance
I've no doubt you people will interpret this as negative and anti - expansionary because it isn't something that's going to happen overnight.
I'm a rugby league fan and I want to see Rugby League dominate this country - Australia's winter sport! And any one else that want to join in. And if it takes another 100 years - it takes another 100 years.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iv'e never heard anything more ridiculous than some slash and burn policy - aimed at what? Giving the other codes ago.
I certainly don't want to be told by my 13 year old niece that she signed up to play AFL.
The AFL run a very successful 18 man comp and don't have any need or desire to reduce the number of teams in there heartland.
The more matches (quality) we supply the networks with the more they will pay. And I can't see a problem with having up to 24 team comp (everybody plays everybody once) which would be fairer than the current draw . With some teams playing once and some twice. From there a conference set up. Games between rival conferences would have the potential to be bigger than Origin. with all teams being included.
How is anyone that wants to dilute or reduce Rugby League greatest asset right, or even partly right. .
Leave the nostalgia out. Its fully understandable that not all people are going to think the way we do
" those that drink from the well should always remember who dug the well'
Ps They should though!
.
Most of the dollars that come our way is because of the Sydney market and, to a lesser extend the Brisbane marked . Our competitors would love, nothing more, than to get a bigger chunk of these main markets and you people seem to be lining up to give them that a chance
I've no doubt you people will interpret this as negative and anti - expansionary because it isn't something that's going to happen overnight.
I'm a rugby league fan and I want to see Rugby League dominate this country - Australia's winter sport! And any one else that want to join in. And if it takes another 100 years - it takes another 100 years.. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Iv'e never heard anything more ridiculous than some slash and burn policy - aimed at what? Giving the other codes ago.
I certainly don't want to be told by my 13 year old niece that she signed up to play AFL.
The AFL run a very successful 18 man comp and don't have any need or desire to reduce the number of teams in there heartland.
The more matches (quality) we supply the networks with the more they will pay. And I can't see a problem with having up to 24 team comp (everybody plays everybody once) which would be fairer than the current draw . With some teams playing once and some twice. From there a conference set up. Games between rival conferences would have the potential to be bigger than Origin. with all teams being included.
Except that's a straw man and nobody wants to "dilute or reduce" anything, at worst they want to rearrange it so we can have the best of both worlds.
.Except the Sydney clubs didn't "build the well" alone, they became the dominant element in the country but only because of their access to pokies giving them the extra funds to buy all the competitions best players up.
Do you really think that the Sydney clubs are what they are now if they can't afford to buy all the best players from the other clubs and competitions across NSW, QLD, NZ, etc!? If so you are delusional.
Only because the Sydney, Brisbane, and Melbourne markets are the only major markets we have a presence in, and the Brisbane and Melbourne markets are underutilised to boot.
It's bloody hard to make money off a market when you effectively aren't present in it, that's why we want to diversify the clubs revenue streams by placing clubs in new markets.
BTW, you are making our argument for us... We already know that there are to many eggs in the Sydney basket so to speak, and the Sydney basket is breaking under the weight, we want to do something about that, you don't...
It won't work.
In one hundred years time when you've caught up to where the AFL (and etc) is now the AFL will have progressed another one hundred years ahead...
It's the runner with the necrotic toe again, the market can't and won't sit still and wait for you, you'll always be playing catch up when you could be winning the race (or at least competing) if you cut the toe off.
Rearrange? let’s call a spade a spade . Your plan is to water down the Sydney market reduce its support. So in order for us go ahead you feel we have to weaken the Sydney market.
Maybe not a slash and burn policy but pretty close
I seem to re call Dally Messenger and the Paddington town hall blah blah, Blah, etc. It seem you recall it differently. We will leave that argument for another day. That’s not really relevant. There clubs have the majority of the best players. They have spent hundreds of millions getting them . That just how it is!
All the clubs have the same amount of money
We have made a lot of progress in the last 8 years . while we are a fair way behind in crowds, and I doubt that’s about to change to much – much more importantly we are the most watched sport in Australia with growth and other opportunities left right and centre
The more people that an add can capture the more people will pay for an add and the more interested the networks will be .
The AFL run a very successful (18 team) competition. Even I will admit that.
They have tried many places to expand, Tasmania's probably there best bet. And if they did expand to there The expansion club the Suns would probably be the front runner.
The Game is just as popular as ever. So however is shown, Tv or streamed it will continue to get good money.
Not to many of the clubs in financial difficulty are located in Sydney.
John Quayle (the incompetent old fool) has done a very good job at Newcastle.
Hahaahahaha, Stallion forgot which account he was in......
Still haven't figured out how quoting someone works Stallion?!
And btw Great Dane. Your previous rant ignores the reality that the AFL has 9 or 10 clubs in Melbourne and rugby league has 8.5 clubs . Sydney has a bigger population than Melbourne.
And they are headed down the exact same path that the NRL is, they'll be forced to rationalise Melbourne again just like the NRL will be forced to rationalise Sydney, and they'll probably be forced to get more aggressive about it before the NRL is forced to do so.
Oh hey Stallion - you are logged into your other account today... I was going to reply but @The Great Dane pretty much summed it up above. Thanks TGD!
The death of the BRL happened in Brisbane too you know, some of our historical clubs went under and the ones that didn't are playing second teir RL these days. You know what though, RL in QLD has moved on and thriving with the Broncos, Titans and soon the Cowboys all playing out of modern, state-of-the-art facilities. We will hopefully soon see a second Brisbane side too. This is progress and that is required for the game to continue to grow and prosper.
I'm not suggesting that we kill or relocate Sydney teams. I am suggesting that each team find their level. If a smaller Sydney team is more appropriately placed in the NSW Cup moving foward so the bigger Sydney clubs have more room to move and the game can expand to Perth, Adelaide, other parts of NZ then so be it. And just like RL did in QLD, the game will move on, grow and be better for it.
Ahh what, no they don't... All the clubs have varying amounts of money in the bank, for example the Broncos, Raiders, and Dogs are significantly richer then say Manly or the Sharks.
Just cause they all get the same amount in grants from the NRL doesn't mean they have the same amount of money
Good businesses know when to cut away dead-weight departments and invest their resources effectively...
Nostalgia on its own is not enough reason to keep dead-weight.
I think that's pretty darn obvious.
'They all have the same amount of money' to spend on there team.
If there are lay offs in a business (a Good businesses) the most valuable employees and those with seniority are the Last to go!
The point being?
The Sharks, Manly, Tigers, etc, are neither the most valuable or senior... So again what’s your point?