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18th club, whose next?

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It's pissing money up against the wall. Tassie will be less profitable and do less for the AFL than the useless Suns and GWS. But like you say, you can do that when you have the money. Doesn't mean it's smart business though. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
Yeh Im sure they'd rather not but I guess if they are planning on 20 teams then including Tassie then Canberra literally only leaves Darwin uncovered by their comp. Just keeps strengthening the "national" game perception that has been their strategy for 30 years.
 

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If the WA government doesn’t come to the table with something big like a stadium, I can see Perth easily missing out to another franchise. And then who knows how long it will be before Perth gets another shot? Not that I agree with Perth missing out but if you think I’m joking, just remember how risk adverse the NRL are.
Thats the big difference between the codes approach to expansion, NRL sits and waits to see what happens, AFL is on the front foot with a list of demands and already setting money aside for investment to make it a success if it happens.
 

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If tasmania don’t get in I wonder how much less the afl get from their tv deal

I suspect gill will be left having to fund this himself rather than being underwritten by the Tasmanian govt

adding such tiny teams is crazy

it shows a real lack of ambition from the fumblers
 

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Thats the big difference between the codes approach to expansion, NRL sits and waits to see what happens, AFL is on the front foot with a list of demands and already setting money aside for investment to make it a success if it happens.
I see what you are saying and yes, that's certainly been the case with many NRL administrations since SL. However, I like the approach Abdo and V'landys are taking. They are not blowing millions on expansion (because they'd be bagged if they did so and crucified by the clubs). But they are still looking to expand in a financially responsible way.

The way things are at the moment, the NRL has options in Perth and Brisbane beating down the door for a spot in the league. The AFL has Tassie beating down the door. I know which position I'd rather be in. The AFL have done their dash with Lions, Suns, Swans and GWS in their non-heartlands and it really hasn't made a difference. All they are left with is Tassie & maybe Canberra. As the NRL now looks to spread out nationally, they will pick up more and more sponsorships and probably broadcast deals. The AFL have peaked, we are only just getting started.
 

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Yeh Im sure they'd rather not but I guess if they are planning on 20 teams then including Tassie then Canberra literally only leaves Darwin uncovered by their comp. Just keeps strengthening the "national" game perception that has been their strategy for 30 years.
They all know at VFL headquarters that it's not a national game when 50+% of the population are only covered by 4 teams and even then, that population still prefers RL.

All we need to do is add Perth & Adelaide (yes, I hear you, how long will that take - lol) and we have just as compelling a national spread, plus NZ.
 

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Yeh Im sure they'd rather not but I guess if they are planning on 20 teams then including Tassie then Canberra literally only leaves Darwin uncovered by their comp. Just keeps strengthening the "national" game perception that has been their strategy for 30 years.
AFL Team 19 Tasmania population 541k and Team 20 Canberra population 441k

or

NRL Team 18 WA population 2.7 million, Team 19 SA 1.8 million and Team 20 New Zealand 2 (population 3.3 million outside of Auckland).

Hmm… one seems like cannibalisation and one seems like actual expansion.
 

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AFL Team 19 Tasmania population 541k and Team 20 Canberra population 441k

or

NRL Team 18 WA population 2.7 million, Team 19 SA 1.8 million and Team 20 New Zealand 2 (population 3.3 million outside of Auckland).

Hmm… one seems like cannibalisation and one seems like actual expansion.
Team 20 png 18 million lol
 

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Thats the big difference between the codes approach to expansion, NRL sits and waits to see what happens, AFL is on the front foot with a list of demands and already setting money aside for investment to make it a success if it happens.

Afl is wasting a lot of money for little return. Only way Perth gets in is if NRL subscribes to same wasteful philosophy, which they won't..
 

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They all know at VFL headquarters that it's not a national game when 50+% of the population are only covered by 4 teams and even then, that population still prefers RL.

All we need to do is add Perth & Adelaide (yes, I hear you, how long will that take - lol) and we have just as compelling a national spread, plus NZ.
Reality doesnt matter in this instance, perception is everything. Its no coincidence that they've been trotting out the "national game' line for over a decade. A key factor why they are currently $285mill a year ahead of us in revenue and growing.
 

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They all know at VFL headquarters that it's not a national game when 50+% of the population are only covered by 4 teams and even then, that population still prefers RL.

All we need to do is add Perth & Adelaide (yes, I hear you, how long will that take - lol) and we have just as compelling a national spread, plus NZ.
This stupid logic again. So the AFL's expansion into QLD and NSW is a waste of time because it hasn't overtaken League in those states? fmd...
 

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Reality doesnt matter in this instance, perception is everything. Its no coincidence that they've been trotting out the "national game' line for over a decade. A key factor why they are currently $285mill a year ahead of us in revenue and growing.
Sure the uneducated will fall for that bs
 

Wb1234

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This stupid logic again. So the AFL's expansion into QLD and NSW is a waste of time because it hasn't overtaken League in those states? fmd...
The afls attempt to overtake rugby league in those states is a costly operation

they could’ve saved probably a billion dollars for the same result

operation barbossa
 

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Reality doesnt matter in this instance, perception is everything. Its no coincidence that they've been trotting out the "national game' line for over a decade. A key factor why they are currently $285mill a year ahead of us in revenue and growing.
Do you ever stop to think that you might be a smart ass but you regularly engage in intentional false equivalency? We all know you are an afl sycophant but seriously you cannot compare the two comps in the simple terms you choose to. You do it out of a spiteful agenda. We all know that.
 

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Do you ever stop to think that you might be a smart ass but you regularly engage in intentional false equivalency? We all know you are an afl sycophant but seriously you cannot compare the two comps in the simple terms you choose to. You do it out of a spiteful agenda. We all know that.
He’s a fairly intelligent and informed poster

it’s a shame he uses it for such crap takes
 

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The afls attempt to overtake rugby league in those states is a costly operation

they could’ve saved probably a billion dollars for the same result

operation barbossa
you still dont get it, they aren't trying to overtake RL, they never will. But they are trying to create a perception of a national sport so sponsors and TV jump on it. And guess what!

In the last 12 years they have brought in $2.5billion more than the NRL in revenue. Hmmmm, that $1billion spend not looking so dumb now?
 

Wb1234

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Well either they are doing something right, or we are doing something wrong. Which is it? $285million a year isnt by chance.
After super league afl had a chance to become the dominant winter sport

sadly for them they failed

saturation coverage of afl in nsw and qld has turned a lot of people off
 

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