18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

Which is why vlandys is so good

Is he though? when WA govt took the trouble to fly to Brisbane to meet with him his response was 'go talk to a sydney club'. Is that really the best the NRL can come up with?

At this point in time hes done nothing other than finally get round to the no brainer of reintroducing a second (kind of) Brisbane club. That hes the one to do it is more a terrible reflection on previous leaders than the genius of this one.

The NRL has cut funding to NRLWA meaning we have had to abandon our SG Ball program. Then he came out with the pearler of his "rusted on afl states' statement which he had to eat humble pie and quickly back track on when the WA Govt and WA Rl community called him out. I havent seen anything from him yet. When I see NRL get serious about growing the game outside of NSW and Qlnd I'll rejoice his leadership.

 

[The Great Dane]

To be fair to Gallop; The NRL seemed to genuinely have every intention of expanding again in the early 2010s, but it was put on hold once plans became serious for the ARLC, as it was suggested that they should have a say in the process.

Once the ARLC was formed they nixed the plans to expand in the immediate future and put expansion on the backburner to focus on other areas of the sport.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Have they?

I don't even think that's knowable in the present. That's one for future historians to decide when they write the history books I'm afraid.

Besides, not all growth is about expansion of the number of teams in the competition, and there's still plenty of potential opportunities for the AFL to grow if they're smart about it. I wouldn't be surprised to see them attempt a second division in the future either, though that'd still be decades away at the earliest I imagine, if it happens at all.

There's really not as far as I can see.

They rushed expansion and unnecessarily set the new side up for a rocky start, which is never a good thing. They've ignored major metros to focus on niche suburban markets again, a mistake that RL seems incapable of learning. Made further expansion in Brisbane a necessity when it could have been a luxury, and which will inevitably eat up valuable resources unnecessarily given time. They even allowed a broadcaster, and vested interest, to dictate their expansion decisions, and I frankly see no reason to be confident that they won't balls up the 18th team as badly as well.

At the moment it's a coin flip that the Bears, or maybe even PNG, end up with a license, and after that it'll almost certainly be at least a decade roughly, possibly longer, before they expand again.

We could be looking at it being the 2040s, maybe even 2050s, before there's a side in Adelaide again, and potentially Perth as well. That would be leaving at least one, potentially two, of the top five major markets on the table for at least a couple decades further, when it's more likely than not that it'll only become more difficult and expensive to expand into them in the future.

All that only addresses the professional tier, and largely ignores international markets, namely NZ, and all of it's extremely hard to justify. So yeah, I'm not seeing very many good signs, only the same worn out old ideas wrapped in a different colour wrapping paper.

Sure they could turn it around, strong leadership could turn it around overnight if they wanted, but I don't know that that's really that likely given the NRL, and it's predecessors, track record. . . I guess you reap what you sow.

Yes, they have peaked, they have tapped out their heartlands and oversupplied their product past it's demand in the non-heartland states.

Regarding the NRL getting their act together, yes, there are many positives happening in the game at the moment that we could have only dreamed of just a few short years ago.

 

[Wb1234]

Is he though? when WA govt took the trouble to fly to Brisbane to meet with him his response was 'go talk to a sydney club'. Is that really the best the NRL can come up with?

At this point in time hes done nothing other than finally get round to the no brainer of reintroducing a second (kind of) Brisbane club. That hes the one to do it is more a terrible reflection on previous leaders than the genius of this one.

The NRL has cut funding to NRLWA meaning we have had to abandon our SG Ball program. Then he came out with the pearler of his "rusted on afl states' statement which he had to eat humble pie and quickly back track on when the WA Govt and WA Rl community called him out. I havent seen anything from him yet. When I see NRL get serious about growing the game outside of NSW and Qlnd I'll rejoice his leadership.

He’s done the dolphins
And we all know team 18 will be in shortly

so yeh

or you can have gallop back who make a lot of nice promises and then can’t deliver because the clubs know he’s a flop

 

[Perth Red]

He’s done the dolphins
And we all know team 18 will be in shortly

so yeh

or you can have gallop back who make a lot of nice promises and then can’t deliver because the clubs know he’s a flop

Like I said, when hes done it.
Good strawman though, I haven't see a leader of the game yet that fills me with much confidence when it comes to growing the game beyond traditional areas. Latest included. If pistol pete brings in perth, or Wellington, I'll applaud him. Until then nothings changed.

 

[Pippen94]

You are saying this like the NRL makes its decisions independent of what broadcaster and stakeholders want LOL

Broadcasters want bris3

 

[Perth Red]

Broadcasters want bris3

Must be why they paid so much for the Dolphins. Oh hang on.......

 

[Wb1234]

Like I said, when hes done it.
Good strawman though, I haven't see a leader of the game yet that fills me with much confidence when it comes to growing the game beyond traditional areas. Latest included. If pistol pete brings in perth, or Wellington, I'll applaud him. Until then nothings changed.

What will you whine about when Perth come in

this forum will be boring without it

 

[Perth Red]

What will you whine about when Perth come in

this forum will be boring without it

Theres always something that can be improved

 

[Wb1234]

Theres always something that can be improved

Shame you don’t apply the same standards to afl …..

 

[Perth Red]

Shame you don’t apply the same standards to afl …..

I use them as a measure only for NRL to see where we are at or could be, I have no interest in them improving.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Like I said, when hes done it.
Good strawman though, I haven't see a leader of the game yet that fills me with much confidence when it comes to growing the game beyond traditional areas. Latest included. If pistol pete brings in perth, or Wellington, I'll applaud him. Until then nothings changed.

The NRL/ARLC have neglected Queensland almost as much as the non-RL states. The fact it's taken 25 years to introduce a second Brisbane team proves it only cares about the status quo in Sydney.

The only reason we got the Melbourne Storm is because News Ltd had a 50% stake in the ARL and funded the team until 2012. Without News Ltd we wouldn't have a successful team in Melbourne and our revenue from broadcast deals would be significantly less than it is today.

That's the sad and sorry state of rugby league. By only caring about one overrated and unliveable gambling addicted city with inflated house prices and a high housos population it has condemned the game to being a niche sport around the nation.

Must be why they paid so much for the Dolphins. Oh hang on.......

The broadcasters didn't pay more because they didn't have to. V'landys gave them the rights on a silver platter without going to tender.

 

[Wb1234]

I use them as a measure only for NRL to see where we are at or could be, I have no interest in them improving.

You been the tens of thousands of posts were you are gushing wet for afl is just to use them as a benchmark ?

Hahhaa

 

[Perth Red]

The NRL/ARLC have neglected Queensland almost as much as the non-RL states. The fact it's taken 25 years to introduce a second Brisbane team proves it only cares about the status quo in Sydney.

The only reason we got the Melbourne Storm is because News Ltd had a 50% stake in the ARL and funded the team until 2012. Without News Ltd we wouldn't have a successful team in Melbourne and our revenue from broadcast deals would be significantly less than it is today.

That's the sad and sorry state of rugby league. By only caring about one overrated and unliveable gambling addicted city with inflated house prices and a high housos population it has condemned the game to being a niche sport around the nation.



The broadcasters didn't pay more because they didn't have to. V'landys gave them the rights on a silver platter without going to tender.

TBF between NRL clubs and grassroots Qlnd gets around $80-100mill a year. WA gets around $750k lol They make a few million out of us though!

 

[Perth Red]

You been the tens of thousands of posts were you are gushing wet for afl is just to use them as a benchmark ?

Hahhaa

yep, now you're getting it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

TBF between NRL clubs and grassroots Qlnd gets around $80-100mill a year. WA gets around $750k lol They make a few million out of us though!

To be fair, the Queensland Cup has generated more talent for the NRL than any other competition in the world.

There was a time when Sydney's NRL clubs affiliated themselves with Queensland Cup clubs because it provided better development pathways for their juniors. The NSWRL threw a massive tantrum and threatened to prevent the Sydney NRL clubs from fielding teams in the NSWRL lower age competitions. Since then the Queensland Cup has declined and lost relevance and is in serious trouble.

If the "reserve grade" proposal is given the green light then the Queensland Cup will struggle to survive.

 

[Pippen94]

Must be why they paid so much for the Dolphins. Oh hang on.......

Yeah, fox funding the whole thing. No interest in Perth

 

[MugaB]

Is he though? when WA govt took the trouble to fly to Brisbane to meet with him his response was 'go talk to a sydney club'. Is that really the best the NRL can come up with?

At this point in time hes done nothing other than finally get round to the no brainer of reintroducing a second (kind of) Brisbane club. That hes the one to do it is more a terrible reflection on previous leaders than the genius of this one.

The NRL has cut funding to NRLWA meaning we have had to abandon our SG Ball program. Then he came out with the pearler of his "rusted on afl states' statement which he had to eat humble pie and quickly back track on when the WA Govt and WA Rl community called him out. I havent seen anything from him yet. When I see NRL get serious about growing the game outside of NSW and Qlnd I'll rejoice his leadership.

Expecting hand outs, whilst waging war on the pokie dens of Australia

 

[MugaB]

You do understand the concept that to sell something to someone you have to actually make it available to them dont you? Imagine if Maccas in the 60's had said "nah its pointless to try and set up outside of America as no one eats hamburgers in other countries".

You do write some dumb sht lol

There are NO NSw or Qlnd cup teams that are not funded by NRL or pokies. Your argument that a club should be able to magically find millions of $'s to compete in a 2nd tier comp is spurious and you are only using it because you dont think perth should have an NRL club.

Resort to the "dumb shit post" again thats as good as your "bless, pokie den, Lols"

I think perth should have an NRL club, infact i think the Reds should never have been defunct... you miss understand me constantly and consistently..
I'm all for expansion, but never at the cost to cull or destroy the comp as it is today... Perth offers nothing right now, im talking about to the league not the broadcast or metros or crowd figures, the NRL dont overly care too much in regards to that, being "national" is not a priority, never was, if they want to expand then they'll do it to those who fund themselves and offer a competition to pluck their stream of juniors from, having a top flight presence in a RL heartland area will boost participation yes, but it also has the potential bring with it elite coaching methods and more focused pathways, that the WA or other "affiliated" states dont have..
They'll just come back to the well every few years for origin until your state wakes up to wanting either a relocated 2nd tier club, or funding their own elite comp

 

[Pneuma]

You been the tens of thousands of posts were you are gushing wet for afl is just to use them as a benchmark ?

Hahhaa

He’s Gil’s number one fan boy. He has a one man circle jerk about him every day!