18th club, whose next?

[Pneuma]

Resort to the "dumb shit post" again thats as good as your "bless, pokie den, Lols"

I think perth should have an NRL club, infact i think the Reds should never have been defunct... you miss understand me constantly and consistently..
I'm all for expansion, but never at the cost to cull or destroy the comp as it is today... Perth offers nothing right now, im talking about to the league not the broadcast or metros or crowd figures, the NRL dont overly care too much in regards to that, being "national" is not a priority, never was, if they want to expand then they'll do it to those who fund themselves and offer a competition to pluck their stream of juniors from, having a top flight presence in a RL heartland area will boost participation yes, but it also has the potential bring with it elite coaching methods and more focused pathways, that the WA or other "affiliated" states dont have..
They'll just come back to the well every few years for origin until your state wakes up to wanting either a relocated 2nd tier club, or funding their own elite comp

The old turd is so full of spite he just turns everybody off. If he just shut up about Sydney clubs and V’landys and focussed on the argument for Perth he wouldn’t have such a ruined reputation as the sites biggest whinger.

 

[MugaB]

The old turd is so full of spite he just turns everybody off. If he just shut up about Sydney clubs and V’landys and focussed on the argument for Perth he wouldn’t have such a ruined reputation as the sites biggest whinger.

To whinge is fine, but the delusion of grandeur, thinking that WA due to it population deserves a team based on turn outs and money that it will draw...
What will it give back... we already have Melbourne, Parramatta and Roosters eating into the player pool, do we want more,

 

[The Great Dane]

Yes, they have peaked, they have tapped out their heartlands and oversupplied their product past it's demand in the non-heartland states.

Not only do you not know that, you literally can't know that. So why keep asserting it as if it were fact?!

Things can and do change rapidly, and pretending that the circumstances of today will never change is silly. The whole field could change so radically in the coming years and decades that even how we define "AFL heartlands" could be completely different.

Also GWS and the Suns were always going to be highly expensive long term investments. So saying they oversaturated Sydney and SEQ is kind of redundant, because that was kind of the point; put teams there now in the hope that the city and culture will grow into them in the coming decades.
It'll be at least another decade or so before it becomes obvious whether or not they are succeeding, and for all we know the AFL could be looking at more teams in multiple markets by then, but I'm not really interested in discussing that or GWS and the Suns any further (it's played out and boring).

Regarding the NRL getting their act together, yes, there are many positives happening in the game at the moment that we could have only dreamed of just a few short years ago.

What's the point in responding to a point if you're not going to address what was said or expand on yours in any meaningful way.

You're just repeating yourself and pretending that that is somehow profound and/or supports your assertions. I mean you haven't even named a single one of these 'many positives', odds are that they're par for the course or you're playing shit up to be something it isn't anyway, but still...

 

[Pneuma]

To whinge is fine, but the delusion of grandeur, thinking that WA due to it population deserves a team based on turn outs and money that it will draw...
What will it give back... we already have Melbourne, Parramatta and Roosters eating into the player pool, do we want more,

Meet the Jersey Flegg Squad

Meet the Jersey Flegg Squad

www.melbournestorm.com.au

Melbourne have players coming through. Most these lads are locals

 

[MugaB]

Meet the Jersey Flegg Squad

Meet the Jersey Flegg Squad

www.melbournestorm.com.au

Melbourne have players coming through. Most these lads are locals

Ok well thats 25 years in the making... money well spent??? maybe, still doesn't excuse Parra and Rorters

 

[Wb1234]

The old turd is so full of spite he just turns everybody off. If he just shut up about Sydney clubs and V’landys and focussed on the argument for Perth he wouldn’t have such a ruined reputation as the sites biggest whinger.

Honestly I just want a Perth nrl team to see how he manages to still bag vlandys and rugby league but still getting exactly what he wanted

that will give me joy

 

[MugaB]

Honestly I just want a Perth nrl team to see how he manages to still bag vlandys and rugby league but still getting exactly what he wanted

that will give me joy

There's always pokie dens

 

[Perth Red]

To whinge is fine, but the delusion of grandeur, thinking that WA due to it population deserves a team based on turn outs and money that it will draw...
What will it give back... we already have Melbourne, Parramatta and Roosters eating into the player pool, do we want more,

What tosh. Its not about deserving anything. Its about what good for the game and whats good for the NRL. That is after all the purpose of the ARLC. If the game wants to grow beyond NSW and qlnd then WA offers the next best opportunity to do so. Especially with the Wa Govt in play.
If the NRL wants to earn more Tv and sponsorship revenue it is evident it needs a 5 metro capital city reach and changing public perception that it is actually a national comp not an east coast comp.
The player pool is there to be drawn from, thats literally why it exists. I see the Dolphins are busy signing players for next year from other clubs already. So much for heartland and second tier establishment!

 

[Wb1234]

What tosh. Its not about deserving anything. Its about what good for the game and whats good for the NRL. That is after all the purpose of the ARLC. If the game wants to grow beyond NSW and qlnd then WA offers the next best opportunity to do so. Especially with the Wa Govt in play.
If the NRL wants to earn more Tv and sponsorship revenue it is evident it needs a 5 metro capital city reach and changing public perception that it is actually a national comp not an east coast comp.
The player pool is there to be drawn from, thats literally why it exists. I see the Dolphins are busy signing players for next year from other clubs already. So much for heartland and second tier establishment!

The player pool Perth won’t add to like Melbourne

 

[Perth Red]

The player pool Perth won’t add to like Melbourne

Are you saying 'we wont add to like Melbourne', or 'we wont add to, like Melbourne'? Its so hard to decide what you mean.

Interestingly I wonder if its the number or quality of coaching etc and a direct pathway thats the issue rather than numbers? For example the Dragons jnr district has only 9 clubs compared to WA's 22 Jnr clubs. Not sure team wise (their 9 clubs have 81 teams at different ages and genders and cant find any reference point for number of teams across WA clubs). I am guessing you wouldn't say the Dragons district is a waste of time and cant produce players?

 

[Wb1234]

Are you saying 'we wont add to like Melbourne', or 'we wont add to, like Melbourne'? Its so hard to decide what you mean.

Interestingly I wonder if it’s the number or quality of coaching etc and a direct pathway thats the issue rather than numbers? For example the Dragons jnr district has only 9 clubs compared to WA's 22 Jnr clubs. Not sure team wise (their 9 clubs have 81 teams at different ages and genders and cant find any reference point for number of teams across WA clubs). I am guessing you wouldn't say the Dragons district is a waste of time and cant produce players?

Storm and Perth no juniors

 

[Perth Red]

Storm and Perth no juniors

When you say NO jnrs do you mean we will close down all 26 WA clubs and not have any elite pathway systems for the NRL club? The WA jnrs currently in NRL or second tier will disappear into the ether and no RL will played in WA after 75 years? Im not sure what you mean?

I mean its not like other NRL clubs who are in heartland areas are stacking their first teams with players from other clubs is it? Cough Dolphins, cough Bulldogs.

 

[Wb1234]

When you say NO jnrs do you mean we will close down all 26 WA clubs and not have any elite pathway systems for the NRL club? The WA jnrs currently in NRL or second tier will disappear into the ether and no RL will played in WA after 75 years? Im not sure what you mean?

I mean its not like other NRL clubs who are in heartland areas are stacking their first teams with players from other clubs is it? Cough Dolphins, cough Bulldogs.

Wa and storm juniors are great for nsw and qld cup

meanwhile Perths and storms nrl players comes from others juniors

 

[Perth Red]

Wa and storm juniors are great for nsw and qld cup

meanwhile Perths and storms nrl players comes from others juniors

Can you predict lotto numbers as well?

I mean do you think there is some sort of genetic difference between kids born in NSW and Qlnd compared to elsewhere that makes them less successful at playing RL?
Or maybe the elite pathways and quality jnr coaching isn't in place yet?
Maybe the best Rugby (sic) WA kids are now going back to Union as a choice?
Maybe you think the kids from WA who are making their way into the NRL currently cant be replicated again at home for some reason?

Maybe Perth will be like nearly every club in the NRL and sign players from other places? And no doubt other clubs will sign players from Perth. Its almost like its not 1970 anymore!

 

[Wb1234]

Can you predict lotto numbers as well?

I mean do you think there is some sort of genetic difference between kids born in NSW and Qlnd compared to elsewhere that makes them less successful at playing RL?
Or maybe the elite pathways and quality jnr coaching isn't in place yet?
Maybe the best Rugby (sic) WA kids are now going back to Union as a choice?
Maybe you think the kids from WA who are making their way into the NRL currently cant be replicated at home again at home for some reason?

Maybe Perth will be like nearly every club in the NRL and sign players from other places? And no doubt other clubs will sign players from Perth. It’s almost like it’s not 1970 anymore!

Obviously nsw and qld produces the best

they aren’t getting the dregs from afl or union

 

[Perth Red]

Obviously nsw and qld produces the best

they aren’t getting the dregs from afl or union

wow you managed to avoid answering anything. well done!

 

[Wb1234]

wow you managed to avoid answering anything. well done!

Nrl should copy what super league is going to do to catalans

storm and Perth must have a certain percentage of their top 17 as players produced in their home states

 

[Perth Red]

Nrl should copy what super league is going to do to catalans

storm and Perth must have a certain percentage of their top 17 as players produced in their home states

I'd have no problem with that as long as its the same for every NRL club and as long as ARLC invests equally across all states in grassroots (relatively speaking)

 

[Wb1234]

I'd have no problem with that as long as its the same for every NRL club and as long as ARLC invests equally across all states in grassroots (relatively speaking)

You think the arlc should invest equally in nsw qld and wa ?

yeh right

 

[Perth Red]

You think the arlc should invest equally in nsw qld and wa ?

yeh right

Relatively speaking, yes if you want to see WA RL development.
You cant demand Jnr production be equal when some areas are getting massive funding and others are getting virtually none from the game.
Currently WA gets around $750k a year and 4 Development officers for the whole state, and apparently that has been cut in last few years to the point we have had to close down the SG Ball program.
That we currently produce any NRL players is minor miracle!

That we have 6 team SHS program and 26 grassroots clubs in WA when we run on a whiff of an oily rag is testament to John Sacksons outstanding work and his team who put in a lot more than they are paid for.