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18th club, whose next?

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He obviously did, as he got his way lol. A national comp is priority is what he said. Its hard to argue unless your a braindead troll on here.
No he said team 18 should also be from Brisbane

as usual you are cherry-picking again
 

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Waits for Perth red to points our weaknesses of Perth bid whilst he white ants rival bids with vigour
This happens quite a lot im afraid, if its not all about Perth, then its a failure...

'95 north qld cowboys came into the comp, if they can exist, any team anywhere can exist, its all about what are we getting in return for it...
Perth pros= national game/sponsors? 2 million pop
Perth cons= no player stocks weakens comp, travel is 5hours away for everyone

Every other bid (Pasifika/Cairns, Nz, seq)
Pros= player stocks, no player drain, no weaker comp, population varies depending on location,

To me if the game is set to expand, what are we getting out of it, i mean if its a drain on the talent pool, then no club will accept an 18th team that isn't currently offering competitive reserve graders in return.. if Perth purchase a plane, then they win hands down, as a private plane to be used by the NRL for all clubs would solve a lot of logistics and also money long term, the NRL did float the idea to buy one around the time covid was causing headaches for the code
 

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They've been trying to get clubs on perpetual licenses of 20 years. Its the clubs only threat when it comes to negotiation of grant time.
Its not grant time now, and its the ARLC who are talking about it, not the clubs
 

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This happens quite a lot im afraid, if its not all about Perth, then its a failure...

'95 north qld cowboys came into the comp, if they can exist, any team anywhere can exist, its all about what are we getting in return for it...
Perth pros= national game/sponsors? 2 million pop
Perth cons= no player stocks weakens comp, travel is 5hours away for everyone

Every other bid (Pasifika/Cairns, Nz, seq)
Pros= player stocks, no player drain, no weaker comp, population varies depending on location,

To me if the game is set to expand, what are we getting out of it, i mean if its a drain on the talent pool, then no club will accept an 18th team that isn't currently offering competitive reserve graders in return.. if Perth purchase a plane, then they win hands down, as a private plane to be used by the NRL for all clubs would solve a lot of logistics and also money long term, the NRL did float tge idea to buy one around the time covid was causing headaches for the code
you do realise travel for Wellington or PNG would be same or worse than Perth? Or are we putting a 3 hr travel limit on any new NRL club? lol
 

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Its not grant time now, and its the ARLC who are talking about it, not the clubs
It’s the arlc talk of Sydney clubs being forced to relocate to qld or Perth will never happen (the boss of the qrl wanted a Sydney team moved to Perth so qld could get another nrl club)
 

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you do realise travel for Wellington or PNG would be same or worse than Perth? Or are we putting a 3 hr travel limit on any new NRL club? lol
I said 5 minimum, not 3 are you unable to comprehend numbers that's a lot of flight time to be airborne, especially when your injured or hurting, but going off the pirates sg ball team scores, the only injuries might be winners cramps for over-celebrating... nah seriously, i get other codes have teams in WA, and travel isn't everything, but YOU need to convince the other 17 clubs that your better or can offer something more than the nothing your offering, if your not providing players right now, what are you worth, coz any bid that wins, ANY bid gets a 9th game and a larger broadcast deal, its about what NRL gets out of it for going to Perth, over somewhere close like another qld bid
 

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"To get more revenue from the media networks we've got to give them more product, it's pretty simple."
“If we want to compete with the AFL, we have to be truly national and be representative in every state.
"That's how you grow any business, you've got to go forwards, not backwards."
- Nick Politis 2023
 

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It’s the arlc talk of Sydney clubs being forced to relocate to qld or Perth will never happen (the boss of the qrl wanted a Sydney team moved to Perth so qld could get another nrl club)
Ok but it doesn't change the fact that the licenses are set to be for 99 years, and if thats so nobody, I MEAN NOBODY goes anywhere unless they themselves choose to do so
 

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Ok but it doesn't change the fact that the licenses are set to be for 99 years, and if thats so nobody, I MEAN NOBODY goes anywhere unless they themselves choose to do so
It’s the arlc calming the clubs down so they don’t unite and stop expansion like they tried too with the dolphins
 

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I said 5 minimum, not 3 are you unable to comprehend numbers that's a lot of flight time to be airborne, especially when your injured or hurting, but going off the pirates sg ball team scores, the only injuries might be winners cramps for over-celebrating... nah seriously, i get other codes have teams in WA, and travel isn't everything, but YOU need to convince the other 17 clubs that your better or can offer something more than the nothing your offering, if your not providing players right now, what are you worth, coz any bid that wins, ANY bid gets a 9th game and a larger broadcast deal, its about what NRL gets out of it for going to Perth, over somewhere close like another qld bid
So no NRL team in PNG or Wellington? Both 4-6 hour flights
You'd best tell the Perth professional sports team in EVERY sporting code except NRL that are currently managing it then lol

Our worth is in bringing another capital city of 2.2mill tot he competition and growing NRL. Sponsors, tv, national appeal. Politis knows.
 

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The same warriors who are running 2nd?
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The Warriors have been in the NRL for 28 years, they have had multiple owners, they have been broke, they changed their colours to match their national side, they even straightened the tongue on their logo thinking the way the tongue was pointing was bad mojo, NZ is way bigger than PNG with lots of rugby union and league players and that’s not even going into the economics of PNG itself.
 

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It’s the arlc calming the clubs down so they don’t unite and stop expansion like they tried too with the dolphins
I doubt it, its more like to stop anyone talking about how the clubs should operate or where they shpuld operate, bruce hatcher is a fkn moron, he was the biggest rival to expansion, and now swung around as soon a the dolphins made a splash.. tge clubs will get on board if they see that there getting something out of expansion, players on the other hand are the major hurdle, RLPA are all about money, they wanted a vote, they can go and get f**ked, the only votes that should matter are the clubs themselves
 

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Ok but it doesn't change the fact that the licenses are set to be for 99 years, and if thats so nobody, I MEAN NOBODY goes anywhere unless they themselves choose to do so
Clubs know theres never been any real threat of them going anywhere, hence why for the last 20 years they have refused to sign perpetual licenses. In theory youd think they wan that becuase it gives them security, in reality they are under no threat of being kicked our or relocated so wont give up their only nargaining chip when it comes to grant negotiations time. If they are offering it then the NRl must be sweetening the deal with something? Theyve been trying for years!

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I doubt it, its more like to stop anyone talking about how the clubs should operate or where they shpuld operate, bruce hatcher is a fkn moron, he was the biggest rival to expansion, and now swung around as soon a the dolphins made a splash.. tge clubs will get on board if they see that there getting something out of expansion, players on the other hand are the major hurdle, RLPA are all about money, they wanted a vote, they can go and get f**ked, the only votes that should matter are the clubs themselves
Yeh the dope didn’t want the dolphins in the nrl since it would weaken his precious little qrl

players like more expansion it’s more bidders for their services
 

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Salary cap dispensation for signing players from outside the NRL
Relocation allowance in cap
Serious investment in WA participation

just for starters
Yep. Hopefully the bid has this money sorted and haven't got their hand out to the NRL.

Otherwise they need to do their homework before putting in a bid.
 

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So no NRL team in PNG or Wellington? Both 4-6 hour flights
You'd best tell the Perth professional sports team in EVERY sporting code except NRL that are currently managing it then lol

Our worth is in bringing another capital city of 2.2mill tot he competition and growing NRL. Sponsors, tv, national appeal. Politis knows.
Thats not a reason to expand, what are we getting in return? Sure as shit ain't players... the effort to travel outwards to Perth, PNG or Wellington etc, is only worth it if theres a carrot, you offer nothing but a city and a possibility of juniors in a decade, thats not an instant incentive to stick it out in WA, we have team in RL playing areas we are already doing that for, Gold coast is a prime example of that, the NRL want players and player stocks over this misguided perception of a "national" game... i mean how insulting is it to call the premier rugby comp in the world not worthy of recognition, just coz it never had a Perth team in this itteration of it
 

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