18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

Perth Glory drew an average of 14,979 fans to their home games in the 1997-98 NSL season.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997–98_Perth_Glory_SC_season

Guess what the Perth Reds drew to their home games in 1997?

8,776.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Perth

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

The Reds' best season -- 13,390 in 1995 -- was still below the Glory's average in 97-98.

What's stupid is you thinking rugby league will be more popular than soccer at the professional level in Perth. History proves you're wrong.

Excellent argument

 

[Perth Red]

Then we wouldn’t be trying in Perth again after what happened last time

People aren’t judging png viability on what happened 27 years ago in a time of war! People who judge Perths viability on that time are just plain stupid.

Id suggest most on here would love to see a vibrant and viable png based in Port Moresby in the nrl. But most see the reality of a troubled developing nation that has little to no chance of being long term viable without significant handouts and major social and financial changes to their nation.

 

[Colk]

Perth Glory drew an average of 14,979 fans to their home games in the 1997-98 NSL season.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997–98_Perth_Glory_SC_season

Guess what the Perth Reds drew to their home games in 1997?

8,776.

Rugby League Tables / Attendances /Perth

Rugby League Tables - NRL Stats & Tables

afltables.com

The Reds' best season -- 13,390 in 1995 -- was still below the Glory's average in 97-98.

What's stupid is you thinking rugby league will be more popular than soccer at the professional level in Perth. History proves you're wrong.

Ah yes 97-98. Completely relevant to 2024.

 

[Perth Red]

Lmao

this year isn’t getting better for you

the dominant football code in wa is afl. All other football codes will struggle

the dominant football code in Newcastle is rugby league …..

You think Aleague and nrl interest levels are on par anywhere in australia? Weird.

 

[Wb1234]

People aren’t judging png viability on what happened 27 years ago in a time of war! People who judge Perths viability on that time are just plain stupid.

Id suggest most on here would love to see a vibrant and viable png based in Port Moresby in the nrl. But most see the reality of a troubled developing nation that has little to no chance of being long term viable without significant handouts and major social and financial changes to their nation.

Perths whole argument for inclusion in the nrl is trust me bro

 

[Perth Red]

Ah yes 97-98. Completely relevant to 2024.

He lives in the past, it’s his happy place.

 

[Wb1234]

Ah yes 97-98. Completely relevant to 2024.

Weak response

 

[Perth Red]

Perths whole argument for inclusion in the nrl is trust me bro

Of course it is, stop trolling and add some sensible conversation to the debate.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yep, that's the Tigers gone. The Wanderers are struggling financially as well, so that's the Eels out. Roar have been struggling financially for a decade, so that's Broncos and Dolphins out.

Not many teams left under donkey's logic.

9 teams and the Dragons still won't make the top 8.

I never said a professional rugby league club's viability in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Sydney and Townsville is dependent upon the finances of the nearest A-League club. You've misinterpreted my argument because you're stupid.

 

[Wb1234]

Of course it is, stop trolling and add some sensible conversation to the debate.

It’s not my fault you can’t work it out

png you are full of doubts

then when it comes to Perth no doubts

when it comes to juniors with Perth it’s a case of give us 10 to 50 years we will get there

with regard to growing tv audiences same give us 50 years and we will

In terms of the clubs viability it’s ignore what happened last time it will be different

>>> Perth bid = trust me bro

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You think nrl is a minor sport? You have as much faith in our product as donkey lol

In Perth it is a minority sport. TV ratings for NRL in Perth are just 8K FTA and 5K PTV. There's just 4.1K players in the entire state.

 

[Iamback]

You think nrl is a minor sport? You have as much faith in our product as donkey lol

In Perth it is

 

[Maximus]

I never said a professional rugby league club's viability in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Sydney and Townsville is dependent upon The finances of the nearest A-League club. You've misinterpreted my argument because you're stupid.

Your entire argument was that if football club has financial struggles, it shouldn't have a NRL licence. You only backtracked because it then got pointed out that half of the NRL clubs therefore shouldn't have licences. Your argument was dumb

 

[Perth Red]

I never said a professional rugby league club's viability in Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Sydney and Townsville is dependent upon The finances of the nearest A-League club. You've misinterpreted my argument because you're stupid.

Yet you believe becuase an Aleague club is struggling in perth this has a relevance to the viability of a possible perth nrl club?

The only way that would make sense is if you believe the interest in Aleague and the interest in NRL in WA is at the same level, and that an nrl club would be as badly run s the glory have been for the last 15 years. And also that corporates would view being on board as a sponsor of an nrl club is the same value as being a sponsor of an Aleague club.

Do you honestly believe that?

 

[Wb1234]

Yet you believe becuase an Aleague club is struggling in perth this has a relevance to the viability of a possible perth nrl club?

The only way that would make sense is if you believe the interest in Aleague and the interest in NRL in WA is at the same level, and that an nrl club would be as badly run s the glory have been for the last 15 years. And also that corporates would view being on board as a sponsor of an nrl club is the same value as being a sponsor of an Aleague club.

Do you honestly believe that?

Soccer is a big sport in wa vs league and used to get massive crowds and it’s died off

super rugby is bigger than league and used to get massive crowds and it dropped off

western reds used to get decent crowds and it dropped off

only fumbler clubs have grown

west coast eagles came last and still dwarfed a league and super rugby

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Face it mate. You’ve been caught arguing that the failure of an A-League is somehow a sign that a Rugby League side would fail in the same market when there is clearly no correlation.

You didn’t mention fumbleball until it was shown to you that A-League is essentially struggling everywhere.

I never said that at all. You're putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.

I argued that the Glory's failure doesn't do the Perth NRL bid any favours. I never said it applies to every market in the country.

In the Perth market, soccer has a long history of being more viable than rugby league at the professional level. We know this because the Glory were drawing bigger crowds than the Reds in the NSL during the 1990s.

It's not my fault that you and your mates know nothing about the Perth market.

 

[Perth Red]

In Perth it is

I’d say it’s middling, at a professional interest level. You dont get 45k turning out for neutral nrl games if it’s minor.

in WA:
Super rugby used to be upper middling but has now slipped to minor due to their issues for the comp, Aleague became minor and keeps slipping after the national league days, afl is obviously major, big bash and basketball are upper middling.

Success in profesional sport is a combination of the profile of the league (no surprise rugby league was doing really well here on the back of the increased hype of the late 80’s and early 90’s) along with how well run the club in question is. When force and super rugby were going we’ll force was a player in Perths sports scene,same for national league and glory. Nrl is doing well at moment and a well run perth club can capitalise on that to have a healthy fanbase and a viable corporate backing.

 

[Colk]

Lmao

this year isn’t getting better for you

the dominant football code in wa is afl. All other football codes will struggle

the dominant football code in Newcastle is rugby league …..

The Jets have had quite good crowds. Much like the Glory had good crowds and the Roar had good crowds at one stage. The argument doesn’t make any sense at all: they are in contrasting seasons for one.

The biggest problem is essentially the A-League is a substandard league. It would be like if hypothetically the NRL became a development league for the English Super League and the NRL became the standard of say the NSW Cup. People would essentially stop watching it after a while and follow the better league. It is the same reason why the NBL doesn’t get much traction.

 

[Perth Red]

Soccer is a big sport in wa vs league and used to get massive crowds and it’s died off

super rugby is bigger than league and used to get massive crowds and it dropped off

western reds used to get decent crowds and it dropped off

only fumbler clubs have grown

west coast eagles came last and still dwarfed a league and super rugby

Soccer is a big sport everywhere, sadly for them the Aleague has fallen into a big hole and appointing gallop didnt help! And for glory not only has the comp fallen apart but they’ve been run by a muppet for years who’s alienated the fanbase. There’s a big soccer following in australia, they just don’t have the comp or the clubs to get them interested in following them.

super rugby isnt as big as nrl in perth. Used to be but they’ve not only shot themselves in foot they’ve blown their toes off!

oh look we’re back to 27 years ago!

basketball and cricket have also grown

afl will always be the dominant sport here, eagles will always be one of the biggest sports clubs in the country. Non of that is relevant to how an nrl club would fair, as donkey has continually shown us with lions in brisbane.

 

[Wb1234]

The Jets have had quite good crowds. Much like the Glory had good crowds and the Roar had good crowds at one stage. The argument doesn’t make any sense at all: there in contrasting seasons for one.

The biggest problem is essentially the A-League is a substandard league. It would be like if hypothetically the NRL became a development league for the English Super League and the NRL became the standard of say the NSW Cup. People would essentially stop watching it after a while and follow the better league. It is the same reason why the NBL doesn’t get much traction.

And the jets struggled to maintain their crowds against the dominant football code in Newcastle

people lost interest