18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I replied this same response about the Gold Coast situation but deleted it lol.
In the end the Bears didn’t even bother putting a proposal together for the license.

Gold Coast has been the biggest disappointment in RL. So much potential in the city, yet little to show for it after 17 years of the Titans.

 

[Pippen94]

Perth Rat is always going on about how a "successful" Perth team can generate 15k at PRS.

What if the club is unsuccessful?

He never talks about how many fans an unsuccessful Perth club would draw.

TBH, 15K for a "successful" club in a city the size of Perth is shit.

It's just a bold prediction with no basis. Probably the reason the NRL isn't answering calls from Cumins..

 

[Pippen94]

Gold Coast has been the biggest disappointment in RL. So much potential in the city, yet little to show for it after 17 years of the Titans.

Perth without bears is same model

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Perth without bears is same model

Perth without Bears is worse than Titans because the grassroots scene in WA is lightyears behind the Gold Coast.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It's just a bold prediction with no basis. Probably the reason the NRL isn't answering calls from Cumins..

The expansionists think Perth will be a replica of the Storm. They're insane and in for a huge shock.

 

[Wb1234]

It's just a bold prediction with no basis. Probably the reason the NRL isn't answering calls from Cumins..

He’s not Cummins

he’s goings

 

[Perth Red]

Gold Coast has been the biggest disappointment in RL. So much potential in the city, yet little to show for it after 17 years of the Titans.

They are no worse than some sydney clubs that have been around for a lot longer.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They are no worse than some sydney clubs that have been around for a lot longer.

Fair point. The counter argument is Sydney is an over saturated market. Gold Coast is a one team market.

Robina Stadium is superior to Penrith Football Stadium, Leichhardt, Brookvale, Kogarah, Shark Park, Belmore, Wollongong and arguably Stadium Australia. The club went bust twice and required bailing out.

Titans should have done far better, both on and off the field. I want to see the club thrive, FWIW, but I've given up waiting for a positive turnaround because they always leave me disappointed.

 

[Perth Red]

Fair point. The counter argument is Sydney is an over saturated market. Gold Coast is a one team market.

Robina Stadium is superior to Penrith Football Stadium, Leichhardt, Brookvale, Kogarah, Shark Park, Belmore, Wollongong and arguably Stadium Australia. The club went bust twice and required bailing out.

Titans should have done far better, both on and off the field. I want to see the club thrive, FWIW, but I've given up waiting for a positive turnaround because they always leave me disappointed.

They remind me of warriors, so much untapped potential. They need to get a decent CEO who can turn them into something.

 

[Wb1234]

Fair point. The counter argument is Sydney is an over saturated market. Gold Coast is a one team market.

Robina Stadium is superior to Penrith Football Stadium, Leichhardt, Brookvale, Kogarah, Shark Park, Belmore, Wollongong and arguably Stadium Australia. The club went bust twice and required bailing out.

Titans should have done far better, both on and off the field. I want to see the club thrive, FWIW, but I've given up waiting for a positive turnaround because they always leave me disappointed.

Harsh on the titans

they are winning the battle with a hugely cashed up afl for the city with no help from the nrl

 

[Canard]

NRL will be paying the $2m a year not the bid team. Throw in the club grant that is $50m a year PNG is costing.

The revenue doesn't grow if the NRL is forking out that each year because the business model doesn't stack up.

Like the WA bid, You would expect the big mining companies to be onboard.

Santos naming rights for the Stadium for starters becomes more valuable.

Again the NRL doesn't want to lose money on expansion so will have all the ducks in arow or won't go there.

They could bring in another Brisbane team and get more from TV, PNG is a want not a need

So you are hoping that a NRL team in PNG can be sustainable without government subsidy?

How? Purely through sponsorship? Thats not sustainable.

They will make no money from game day revenue, no money from merchandise and no money from corporates.

It doesn't work without government (taxpayer dollars), simple as that.

 

[Perth Red]

Perth Rat is always going on about how a "successful" Perth team can generate 15k at PRS.

What if the club is unsuccessful?

He never talks about how many fans an unsuccessful Perth club would draw.

TBH, 15K for a "successful" club in a city the size of Perth is shit.

lol didnt Dolphins get 14k a week or two ago? Some games draw sht, some draw great. Such is life. a 17k avg is very doable for a well run club.

 

[Pippen94]

He’s not Cummins

he’s goings

They are no worse than some sydney clubs that have been around for a lot longer.

Yeah, those Sydney teams are the reason the game gets a big broadcast deal. 4k watch NRL in perth..

 

[Iamback]

So you are hoping that a NRL team in PNG can be sustainable without government subsidy?

How? Purely through sponsorship? Thats not sustainable.

They will make no money from game day revenue, no money from merchandise and no money from corporates.

It doesn't work without government (taxpayer dollars), simple as that.

I would expect they won't be admitted without being able to stand on their own. Or there is no point because the game won't grow if a team is a money pit

Hunters have 9 sponsors not including the Australian govt.

I'd assume most of them are prepared to upgrade should the team get in.

CAT forklifts for example service over here as well.

Mining companies like Santos are naming rights of the stadium. Were once Wallabies sponsors so have shown an interest in sponsorship.

Coke is over there and one of the bigger employers there. Again Mt Franklin and Powerade were once NRL sponsors

You'd assume some type of temporary stand/tents as they do for F1 and other events to improve corporate facilites at their home games.

 

[Matt_CBY]

Speaking of irrelevance

The school yard tactic? That’s the best you can do?

 

[mongoose]

Titans have 1 thing the Brisbane Tigers and North Sydney Bears don't, an NRL license

 

[Pippen94]

I would expect they won't be admitted without being able to stand on their own. Or there is no point because the game won't grow if a team is a money pit

Hunters have 9 sponsors not including the Australian govt.

I'd assume most of them are prepared to upgrade should the team get in.

CAT forklifts for example service over here as well.

Mining companies like Santos are naming rights of the stadium. Were once Wallabies sponsors so have shown an interest in sponsorship.

Coke is over there and one of the bigger employers there. Again Mt Franklin and Powerade were once NRL sponsors

You'd assume some type of temporary stand/tents as they do for F1 and other events to improve corporate facilites at their home games.

Are there any sponsorship opportunities after the dockers & eagles get all the money?!

 

[Pippen94]

Titans have 1 thing the Brisbane Tigers and North Sydney Bears don't, an NRL license

..NRL doesn't need another titans.

 

[Jamberoo]

Harsh on the titans

they are winning the battle with a hugely cashed up afl for the city with no help from the nrl

In what ways are they winning the battle? What has changed over the past 15 years in relation to NRL v AFL. I would say both Titans and Suns have been equally disappointing on and off the paddock. Participation has grown for both codes but isn’t that just a reflection of GC changing demographics?

 

[mongoose]

..NRL doesn't need another titans.

Titans probably have more local juniors than most NRL clubs to be honest, isn't that what all you old school NSWRL folk love?