1st Test: New Zealand v Australia at Wellington on Feb 12-16, 2016

[hineyrulz]

"The last three Tests in which Williamson has faced a decent pace attack on a pitch offering them some assistance he has made scores of 0, 6, 22, 9 and 16 for a total of 53 runs at an average of 11.
Nine months ago in England, the Kiwi first drop plundered the Poms on a flat deck at Lord?s but then, confronted with a trickier pitch at Leeds, he made 0 and 6.
In Australia, Williamson flayed the home attack on batsman-friendly surfaces at Brisbane and Perth, before failing in both innings once conditions became more difficult at Adelaide, making 22 and 9."




:lol:Kane Plod

Butter and salt always goes well with popcorn

 

[ANTiLAG]

He does well to bat through a drinks break these days.

I could probably handle him batting 15 overs, at least he'd be better odds of scoring some more centuries.

In the last test before this one, NZ were losing wickets on a spicy wicket variable bounce wicket, chasing a small total.

He started trying to overhead smash like a tennis serve the balls he faced.

It was mental. It just gave the impression that he is clearly done with test cricket. But where the McScoop was not his shot first to catch on and be played in the T20 and ODI death overs, the McSmash or McServe will be. His fearless approach has been great in limited overs. But his test career promised so much in 2014. And he delivered so very little since.

 

[JJ]

Butter and salt always goes well with popcorn

yeah, well, interesting debating whether Smith or Williamson is a bigger plodder :crazy:

Haynetrain's found some form, his efforts yesterday were abysmal, akin to Southee's efforts with the bat

 

[Twatface Magee]

Just yours and El D's - not more rhetorical questions actually

Anything opinion you have about cricket is irrelevant now that you've shown you think Smith has poor away form. You're a laughing stock.

 

[JJ]

Does it burn you that he's going to have a better career than Williamson?

Can you see the future?

Smith will win more tests - that aside, my pick is their careers will be pretty comparable - Smith will largely play his tests against India and England - not sure what that means for "better"

 

[Pete Cash]

What batsmen aren't worse on tricky pitches ?

 

[JJ]

Anything opinion you have about cricket is irrelevant now that you've shown you think Smith has poor away form. You're a laughing stock.

I didn't say that - he's been tremendous in the Windies and very good in RSA - what I said was when the ball's doing anything he'll be more vulnerable than some others because of his technique

It's funny watching you get stupider

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Butter and salt always goes well with popcorn

Im not sure what's worse for these Kiwi's,for the Warriors full strength side to get destroyed on there home turf by the worse side in the NRL(Eels) in the Nines or the NZ cricket team getting destroyed on there home turf by a team that lost 3-2 to Adam Lyth

 

[JJ]

What batsmen aren't worse on tricky pitches ?

They all are - but (again) all I am saying is that his difference will be greater because of the way he plays away from his body

I have also said I wish more of our players had his hunger for runs, I've also said he and Williamson (and Root for that matter) will all have fine careers, and unless injury strikes them down will be regarded as greats

 

[Hutty1986]

Can you see the future?

Smith will win more tests - that aside, my pick is their careers will be pretty comparable - Smith will largely play his tests against India and England - not sure what that means for "better"

So are you saying Williamson be ordinary away from NZ throughout his career? Or will you admit that Smith has well and truly proven himself away from Aus?

 

[JJ]

So are you saying Williamson be ordinary away from NZ throughout his career? Or will you admit that Smith has well and truly proven himself away from Aus?

What? Both are relatively early in their careers, and have shown themselves to be good away - Smith hasn't well and truly proven himself away from Australia, that's ridiculous

 

[ANTiLAG]

Im not sure what's worse for these Kiwi's,for the Warriors full strength side to get destroyed on there home turf by the worse side in the NRL(Eels) in the Nines or the NZ cricket team getting destroyed on there home turf by a team that lost 3-2 to Adam Lyth

You really think it is wise to bring up rugby league in Antipodean trolling?

http://www.rlif.com/rankings

I mean that is as about as smart as bringing up rugby union. Just stick to the sports that Aussies are still good at.

 

[JJ]

Im not sure what's worse for these Kiwi's,for the Warriors full strength side to get destroyed on there home turf by the worse side in the NRL(Eels) in the Nines or the NZ cricket team getting destroyed on there home turf by a team that lost 3-2 to Adam Lyth

Nines? :lol: :lol: genius

 

[Twatface Magee]

I didn't say that - he's been tremendous in the Windies and very good in RSA - what I said was when the ball's doing anything he'll be more vulnerable than some others because of his technique

It's funny watching you get stupider

When everyone is telling you you're wrong, but you still think you're right - that's when you know you're stupid.

 

[hineyrulz]

I could probably handle him batting 15 overs, at least he'd be better odds of scoring some more centuries.

In the last test before this one, NZ were losing wickets on a spicy wicket variable bounce wicket, chasing a small total.

He started trying to overhead smash like a tennis serve the balls he faced.

It was mental. It just gave the impression that he is clearly done with test cricket. But where the McScoop was not his shot first to catch on and be played in the T20 and ODI death overs, the McSmash or McServe will be. His fearless approach has been great in limited overs. But his test career promised so much in 2014. And he delivered so very little since.

Not a great way to show the young blokes how to play test cricket.

I know my good mate HT was taking the piss, but Williamson is a gun and I enjoy watching him bat. The Sooner BMac slogger gives it away the better IMO. You can't have your captain batting like a cat on a hot tin roof on whiz.

 

[ANTiLAG]

When everyone is telling you you're wrong, but you still think you're right - that's when you know you're stupid.

I do not think Galileo was stupid. I don't think he would have even thought that he was indeed stupid.

Your reasoning here is awful.

Being right is not determined by any election. There is no democracy of rightness.

You are suffering from a fallacy known as Argumentum ad populum.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Not a great way to show the young blokes how to play test cricket.

I know my good mate HT was taking the piss, but Williamson is a gun and I enjoy watching him bat. The Sooner BMac slogger gives it away the better IMO. You can't have your captain batting like a cat on a hot tin roof on whiz.

I know KW rattled a few cages in Australia this year. It is high praise enough for him that he always, without fail, gets brought into these debates.

But yeah, for all the mocking of the Don 2.0, right now I'd happily swap BMac for Voges in the NZ test team.

 

[hineyrulz]

yeah, well, interesting debating whether Smith or Williamson is a bigger plodder :crazy:

Haynetrain's found some form, his efforts yesterday were abysmal, akin to Southee's efforts with the bat

Awesome to see my good mate HT find some Don Voges like form

 

[Twatface Magee]

I do not think Galileo was stupid.

You're reasoning here is awful.

Being right is not determined by any election. There is no democracy of rightness.

You are suffering from a fallacy known as Argumentum ad populum.

Your*

Don't think I'm suffering from anything tbh.
JJ has completely ignored facts and implied that averaging 40.25 against India, in India isn't very good.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Your*

Don't think I'm suffering from anything tbh.
JJ has completely ignored facts and implied that averaging 40.25 against India, in India isn't very good.

I had already corrected my spelling. But thank you.

But your reasoning is suffering a fallacy. The context and content of the premises does not matter. Your conclusion is invalid.

But that may too much of an abstract notion for you to grasp given your passion for Steve Smith.

When everyone is telling you you're wrong, but you still think you're right - that's when you know you're stupid.

This argument can never be valid. Not for Steve Smith. Not for Chris Martin.