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1st Test: New Zealand v Australia at Wellington on Feb 12-16, 2016

ANTiLAG

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Based on the decision Alex Hales just got, NZ have had positively fantastic umpiring. Luckily they still had a review....

One of these things is not like the others.

How is having a drs review 'luck'?
 
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That decision occured with Voges on 7.

Sell it anyway you like. He made 232 further runs he should not have.

We all want results where umpire decisions are not newsworthy stories and subject to cricinfo articles. These two bizarre decisions are not "occasional screw ups" such as a ball slightly pitching outside leg, or heading over the sumps of an lbw - they are bizarre and very rare.

Try to be more gracious winners about it when wrong decisions, especially ones so bizarre and rare, go in your favour.

Then you should have just got him out on 8, or 9, or 10, or so on.
Point is you had plenty of opportunity to get him out before 239 but your bowling wasn't, and isn't, good enough.
 

ANTiLAG

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Then you should have just got him out on 8, or 9, or 10, or so on.
Point is you had plenty of opportunity to get him out before 239 but your bowling wasn't, and isn't, good enough.

It was good enough to get him out on 7.

Sell it anyway you like.

I won't suggest that you personally be more gracious, though.
 

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Then you should have just got him out on 8, or 9, or 10, or so on.
Point is you had plenty of opportunity to get him out before 239 but your bowling wasn't, and isn't, good enough.

Still a ridiculously bad piece of umpiring, as was Adelaide. Like I said some of you lot got all bitter about a correct call in the odi, heaven help us if you get something like these two at a critical time (which both were )
 

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Ian Smith just started the murmorings for a real batsman to bat 6 today.

First time I've heard it from our commentators.

Neesh sucked on turning tracks. Runs at home against Asian attacks, but not the same as pitch turning.

But just f off with the #6 allrounder altogether unless they can average 40 with the bat.

Yep I reckon, 6 bats find Henry a spot and have Santner at 8
 
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Still a ridiculously bad piece of umpiring, as was Adelaide. Like I said some of you lot got all bitter about a correct call in the odi, heaven help us if you get something like these two at a critical time (which both were )

Adelaide 1992/93

Edgbaston 2005

Those are two good 'uns for us Aussies to be bitter about.

I'm sure Shane Warne can feel aggrieved for the WACA in 2001/02.
 

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Yep I reckon, 6 bats find Henry a spot and have Santner at 8

Still not convinced on Henry.

Fact is, Wagner should never have been originally dropped for him.

Bracewell snucked back into the team which I thought was wrong at the time, but then he displayed signs he was going to bat well and hold a length. But yeah, he can go now.

Henry did sfa in his matches in the team instead of Wags.

And if playing 3 seamers and no allrounder, Wagner can bowl a lot longer than Henry. He is about to turn 30. He can bowl more than his share for a few seasons to come. That way Tim and Trent (or whoever) can be delicate new ball bowler types and limited their donkey spells in a 4 prong attack.

Wags made the attack look different when playing Lanka. Just always at them.

Team balance is critical.

Problem is Trent, Tim and Doug are besties and KW grew up with Doug, not to mention his surname. But to be honest, if Boult is now stuffed as a swing bowler, I don't think he is an automatic selection anymore.
 
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Meapro Ham

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Aussies could have declared when Voges was on 7 and they still would have won comfortably. All the no ball call did was delay the inevitable.
 

ANTiLAG

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Keep looking for the point. I think you might have some luck of your own if you look up....

Keep looking for why your post was in fact without a valid point in this situation and that you provided a disanology and comparing apples to oranges, I'll give you a clue: DRS.

I have faith that you can work this one out.
 
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JJ

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Still not convinced on Henry.

Fact is, Wagner should never have been originally dropped for him.

Bracewell snucked back into the team which I thought was wrong at the time, but then he displayed signs he was going to bat well and hold a length. But yeah, he can go now.

Henry did sfa in his matches in the team instead of Wags.

And if playing 3 seamers and no allrounder, Wagner can bowl a lot longer than Henry. He is about to turn 30. He can bowl more than his share for a few seasons to come. That way Tim and Trent (or whoever) can be delicate new ball bowler types and limited their donkey spells in a 4 prong attack.

Wags made the attack look different when playing Lanka. Just always at them.

Team balance is critical.

Problem is Trent, Tim and Doug are besties and KW grew up with Doug, not to mention his surname. But to be honest, if Boult is now stuffed as a swing bowler, I don't think he is an automatic selection anymore.

Henry has been bowling well thought. Agree on the balance, and at the end of the day for the first time I can remember we have 5 pace bowlers all of whom can do a job I test cricket.

Boult's not done, he did as much with the ball as anyone in this test - I put the blame squarely on our batsmen tbh - Voges had a huge piece of luck, but then pretty much didn't make a mistake for a day. Khawaja was impressive too - that was the difference, none of our bats could play for 20 mins without having a brain fart of some description. Obviously that wouldn't usually be case for Williamson (and for all the talk of a slump, that was simply a world class bowler out duelling a world class bat - it happens) and Watling - but Warner and Smith don't always have the brain farts they seemed to be suffering.

Not sure on the need for a spinner at the moment - Santner perhaps if he lengthens the batting from 8, but I Wagner fills the big overs role that they should, and does it better
 
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hineyrulz

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Shittle having back spasms again, time to give him the bullet.

Patto was left out because of a worry over fitness but Siddle struggles to finish a test match these days as well.
 

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