2018 Crowd Watch

[titoelcolombiano]

Agree. I've been an advocate of the suburban grounds. Touch up the amenities and get them to 25000 capacity and its perfect for this great code.

With what money? The NSW Govt have gone out of their way to make it clear that they will not spend a cent on Sydney suburban grounds moving forward.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Lol
Surely not you! You would throw out the baby with the bath water. Having no idea of how significant the Sydney based clubs are to the code is your biggest failing. From this you ignorantly seek the loss of such clubs with no idea of how much damage to the code is being done. That's you PR.

Yet you advocate for club's attendances to continue to dwindle at run down venues that the Govt refuses to spend any further money on. Suburban grounds also severely limit the corporate support clubs can attract which is what grows their brand and prestige. You are living in the past. Allianz, Western Sydney Stadium and to a lesser extent the new ANZ Stadium (well the lower bowl anyway) are going to be much better than anything Sydney has seen before.

 

[Raiderdave]

Honestly unless a game is getting 35k (which is only ANZAC Day/Origin/GF/special events), we don't need to be at ANZ. It looks awful even if 20k are there. Play it at the suburban grounds and get full houses.

and see all our clubs go broke

LOL
yeah , lets do that

 

[Raiderdave]

That's asinine

it isn't

its dead on
lazy , passionless bandwagon riders

 

[Stallion]

Yet you advocate for club's attendances to continue to dwindle at run down venues that the Govt refuses to spend any further money on. Suburban grounds also severely limit the corporate support clubs can attract which is what grows their brand and prestige. You are living in the past. Allianz, Western Sydney Stadium and to a lesser extent the new ANZ Stadium (well the lower bowl anyway) are going to be much better than anything Sydney has seen before.

You seem to be adamant that the govt won't spend money on the suburban grounds?! That may change if it becomes a vote gathering point for a state election. Never say never. People vote.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You seem to be adamant that the govt won't spend money on the suburban grounds?! That may change if it becomes a vote gathering point for a state election. Never say never. People vote.

There was an uproar over the main stadia - there is no way in hell they will vote for someone proposing to spend more money on suburban grounds - lol

 

[Raiderdave]

What if you watch EVERY game on tv and u love the game.

but live 30 minutes or so , or even an hour from the team you allegedly supports home ground ?

no
you're not a fan
you're a couch potato

 

[Perth Red]

Lol
Surely not you! You would throw out the baby with the bath water. Having no idea of how significant the Sydney based clubs are to the code is your biggest failing. From this you ignorantly seek the loss of such clubs with no idea of how much damage to the code is being done. That's you PR.

Implosion, peanut, bears, union conspiracy.

I see you refused to refute the facts about suburban grounds lol.

 

[Perth Red]

With what money? The NSW Govt have gone out of their way to make it clear that they will not spend a cent on Sydney suburban grounds moving forward.

In his delusional world where 12 Sydney NRL clubs still exist and are drawing 25k fans to suburban grounds lol.

 

[Perth Red]

You seem to be adamant that the govt won't spend money on the suburban grounds?! That may change if it becomes a vote gathering point for a state election. Never say never. People vote.

They might chuck $10mill sticky plaster money at them to get in the local paper but they will not invest the $100mill plus that these grounds actually need. Well not in the real world anyway, in your fantasy world they may lol.

 

[Stallion]

There was an uproar over the main stadia - there is no way in hell they will vote for someone proposing to spend more money on suburban grounds - lol

? Strange logic!? Perhaps the uproar was over a "white elephant"stadium that the public isn't keen on?! Perhaps the $1billion not being spent may be held back for upgrading grounds the people go to? Would love to see: Brookvale upgraded to 25000, Leichardt to 25000, Gosford to 25000, Kogarah to 25000, Penrith to 25000, Wollongong to 25000, Belmore to 25000, Campbelltown to 25000. And Parramatta stadium is on its way to 30000. Throw in the SFS at 45000 and things are looking very good in the geographically difficult to travel around Sydney and surrounds.

 

[Stallion]

They might chuck $10mill sticky plaster money at them to get in the local paper but they will not invest the $100mill plus that these grounds actually need. Well not in the real world anyway, in your fantasy world they may lol.

States the man advocating a mythical Pirates team! I'm an advocate of a Pirates team but you certainly don't endear rugby-league fans to the cause. The upgrades are possible given the $1billion taken out of the bigger stadiums budget.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

? Strange logic!? Perhaps the uproar was over a "white elephant"stadium that the public isn't keen on?! Perhaps the $1billion not being spent may be held back for upgrading grounds the people go to? Would love to see: Brookvale upgraded to 25000, Leichardt to 25000, Gosford to 25000, Kogarah to 25000, Penrith to 25000, Wollongong to 25000, Belmore to 25000, Campbelltown to 25000. And Parramatta stadium is on its way to 30000. Throw in the SFS at 45000 and things are looking very good in the geographically difficult to travel around Sydney and surrounds.

Lol - and what's the bill for all of that? Much more - Parra on its own is $300m - you are so funny Stallion - thanks for the laugh.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

In his delusional world where 12 Sydney NRL clubs still exist and are drawing 25k fans to suburban grounds lol.

lol

Yet as you point out the clubs playing the majority of their games at suburban grounds have attendances in decline. There was plenty of room on his beloved hill at Brooky for @Stallion last week

 

[Stallion]

lol

Yet as you point out the clubs playing the majority of their games at suburban grounds have attendances in decline. There was plenty of room on his beloved hill at Brooky for @Stallion last week

Pathetic response amongst two disrespectful dudes.

 

[adamkungl]

The suburban grounds obsession is short sighted.

1) Expecting the state government to upgrade suburban facilities for the use of a single NRL club is a fools game. They are upgrading the big central stadiums, which are all in use by multiple clubs across 3 professional sports as well as major international teams and pop music concerts, and are major tourism attractions.
The suburban grounds are run by suburban councils and are basically the responsibility of local government and the NRL clubs that use them.If the State government upgrades them, it's only to buy votes, which may still happen of course, but I wouldn't hinge a club's future on it. Brookvale and Leichhardt are Exhibits A and B - no votes are swinging on them, no upgrades.

2) 20k capacity suburban grounds put a serious cap on a club's earning ability. Fair enough no one is doing a great job of exceeding that now, but we should be looking at decades down the track, not doubling down on mediocrity.

I'm not saying clubs should abandon suburban grounds, but every club has to have some big draw games that can smash through the 20k barrier. There's no hope of this if you play 12 games in the suburbs.
Parra, Wests, Bulldogs, Roosters, Souths stand to gain a big advantage as the central stadiums re-open in their new and improved forms.
If their average crowds start to grow past the 20k mark and beyond, how does someone like Manly keep up? Even IF Brookvale gets some decent upgrades it's still capping their ability for growth.

 

[Stallion]

The suburban grounds obsession is short sighted.

1) Expecting the state government to upgrade suburban facilities for the use of a single NRL club is a fools game. They are upgrading the big central stadiums, which are all in use by multiple clubs across 3 professional sports as well as major international teams and pop music concerts, and are major tourism attractions.
The suburban grounds are run by suburban councils and are basically the responsibility of local government and the NRL clubs that use them.If the State government upgrades them, it's only to buy votes, which may still happen of course, but I wouldn't hinge a club's future on it. Brookvale and Leichhardt are Exhibits A and B - no votes are swinging on them, no upgrades.

2) 20k capacity suburban grounds put a serious cap on a club's earning ability. Fair enough no one is doing a great job of exceeding that now, but we should be looking at decades down the track, not doubling down on mediocrity.

I'm not saying clubs should abandon suburban grounds, but every club has to have some big draw games that can smash through the 20k barrier. There's no hope of this if you play 12 games in the suburbs.
Parra, Wests, Bulldogs, Roosters, Souths stand to gain a big advantage as the central stadiums re-open in their new and improved forms.
If their average crowds start to grow past the 20k mark and beyond, how does someone like Manly keep up? Even IF Brookvale gets some decent upgrades it's still capping their ability for growth.

Some decent points. I'd rather have a presence in that area than not. If it's 20000 then the code should cop it for the sake of the code which is under attack from.other codes.

 

[adamkungl]

This might not be popular in some circles, but I reckon Northern Eagles is a geographically and commercially sound idea that could have and could still be big if it wasn't crippled by 2 old clubs that hate each other.

 

[TheFrog]

1) Expecting the state government to upgrade suburban facilities for the use of a single NRL club is a fools game. They are upgrading the big central stadiums, which are all in use by multiple clubs across 3 professional sports as well as major international teams and pop music concerts, and are major tourism attractions.

The trouble with this is that supporters of Cronulla, Manly and Penrith (or more correctly the ratepayers in those areas) are then subsidising teams that use the stadiums paid for by everyone (Cronulla's ground I believe is owned by the Sharks). So along with pouring billions of taxpayer dollars into the big stadiums, the state govt should in the interests of equity be giving grants to local councils.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Some decent points. I'd rather have a presence in that area than not. If it's 20000 then the code should cop it for the sake of the code which is under attack from.other codes.

Stallion logic: Kicking out the bears and moving Manly out of Brooky hands the area over to all of those non-existent Super Rugby and AFL franchises in Northern Sydney