2018 Crowd Watch

[beave]

Still good tickets available for origin 3........

 

[Stallion]

Take off your tin foil hat mate—- this conspiracy theory that school teachers are trying to convert people into supporting AFL isn’t real.

Let me guess you think man never walked on the moon and that Adolf Hitler lived for decades in South America following World War II??

Hardly! Lol. Your comprehension is lacking. The NRL development has been very substandard compared to other codes (union,AFL & soccer). This has impacted negatively in the regard of the code. In fact I have first hand knowledge of some poor development decisions that have been thankfully corrected in the Hunter area as of late. Three years ago I recommended that leaguetag be pushed in primary schools. The development people opted to concentrate on high schools. To their credit they admitted their mistake and targeted primary schools the following year. Speaking about Newcastle only, it's been the slowest area to take up the very popular leaguetag version of rugby league and also women's rugby league. It's now happening and positive results are being realised. It will get bigger. My latest emailed advice is for the code to provide support for creating interschool leaguetag comps. Let's hope this happens. Other codes are getting the inside run in this area and this has been occuring for decades.Mums and Dads are fully supportive of leaguetag.

 

[Suitman]

How does that explain the regular 30,000+ crowds in Adelaide & Perth??

Those states have been similarly brainwashed.

 

[Perth Red]

What was crowd in Sydney suburbia for today’s game? Didn’t look many.

 

[Stallion]

What was crowd in Sydney suburbia for today’s game? Didn’t look many.

10000. Wonder what the ticket prices were? I've noticed clubs are charging at least $30 for general admission along with much higher for grandstand seats except for Penrith and the ones hosting at ANZ stadium. This matters.

 

[Perth Red]

10,145 at Belmore. 7.5k less than their season avg. so much for Sydney’s love of suburban grounds. After all the fapping after Leichhardt last weekend I’m sure no-one in the nrl media will mention this.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Shock!

Crowds are down in the origin period.

Bigger shock!

Perth Dred is whinging about it.

 

[Timmah]

- Cloaking crowd discussion in insults or baiting directed at particular posters (e.g. "whats the crowd in Perth, haw haw haw", which wasn't funny after it's third telling, and only sparks more pissing contests with no actual discussion) won't be tolerated anymore.

- @Stallion - if you wish to discuss rationalisation of Sydney clubs or whatever you think is happening in schools or on the north shore, please take your chat to the NRL Expansion board. Don't keep posting about it in this thread, it's not relevant and hi-jacks discussion.

- Comparisons to, and discussions about AFL - the other primary winter code in Australia - are inevitable when discussing NRL crowds. Don't go overboard about it though. And even then, that doesn't open the door for immature rubbish or name-calling.

- The concept of this thread is really simple. Crowd Watch. Discuss crowds.

 

[Stallion]

- Cloaking crowd discussion in insults or baiting directed at particular posters (e.g. "whats the crowd in Perth, haw haw haw", which wasn't funny after it's third telling, and only sparks more pissing contests with no actual discussion) won't be tolerated anymore.

- @Stallion - if you wish to discuss rationalisation of Sydney clubs or whatever you think is happening in schools or on the north shore, please take your chat to the NRL Expansion board. Don't keep posting about it in this thread, it's not relevant and hi-jacks discussion.

- Comparisons to, and discussions about AFL - the other primary winter code in Australia - are inevitable when discussing NRL crowds. Don't go overboard about it though. And even then, that doesn't open the door for immature rubbish or name-calling.

- The concept of this thread is really simple. Crowd Watch. Discuss crowds.

Understand Timmah. Instead of deleting that discourse it would have been better transferring it to wherever you suggest? Their was some good stuff in that? You never know it may help the code one day?FYI. Kind regards. Stallion

 

[Stallion]

There’s already 9 teams in the city that can’t draw a ‘large’ crowd, what’s adding a 10th team going to do?

Expansion should be into areas where NRL can be grown and gain new supporters like Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane 2, NZ 2, etc.

Not adding another team into an oversatured market because you can’t be bothered to travel within your own city to go to a game.

It's not an over saturated market in Sydney when other codes are increasing their crowds! Established RL rivalries and localism is an attraction for many people. You just don't get it. Genius!

 

[Vee]

- The concept of this thread is really simple. Crowd Watch. Discuss crowds.

New policy?

 

[Raiderdave]

It's not an over saturated market in Sydney when other codes are increasing their crowds! Established RL rivalries and localism is an attraction for many people. You just don't get it. Genius!

which other codes are increasing their crowds ?
the swans averaged approx 35K in 1997 they average the same 21 years later on the back of leg ups & a rigged comp that favoured them heavily for the last 2 decades
union crowds have more then halved from their highs of the early 2000's
soccer hasn't increased its crowds & infact they've gone backwards

so
your claim other codes have increased their crowds is inaccurate & infact
wrong

 

[Disinterested third party]

I guess you don’t actually read posts, instead you just read my name and repeat your lame insult??

But if you want me to address my comments from Origin 1 that I did get wrong, go back and read it again.. I said for the reasons I mentioned that it didn’t feel like a crowd of that size.

The reasons I mentioned were accurate, the empty seats were on level 1 and not level 4, particularly around the MCC area where there was still bays that were 80% empty. It was still possible to buy seats on Level 1 the day of the game because the NRL didn’t direct general supporters into the ‘supporter zones’ meaning Great seats with good views on Level one near the 40m line in the Great Southern Stand were still available until only a few hours before (there was still a row of spare seats near me that night)

I said I hoped I was wrong & I was... but it doesn’t mean that the way the MCG was ‘sold’ was strange, especially in regards to those MCC bays that were mostly empty and didn’t look great on TV (in the replay) while people were sitting up in the nosebleeds.

 

[Disinterested third party]

Please leave it as it is. It is great for letting the AFL and union trolls out themselves.

 

[Mister M]

So you think the NRL was ‘right’ to push people up into the nosebleeds and then realise that it was only Level 1/Level 2 searing left and then sold then off as ‘$15 restricted view’ in a row next to someone who spent $299 on a ticket?

Then they still couldn’t sell of some of those bays. Even with a ‘full’ MCG the 8 (4 on Level 1, 4 on Level 2) bays that were 80% empty in the MCC section of the ground demonstrated that the NRL didn’t do there fans justice with how they managed that crowd.

But let’s focus on crowds that happened in the past month rather than just posting troll comments?

For someone that’s such a ‘Disinterested third party’ you seem obsessed with everything I post.

 

[Stallion]

If Northern Sydney was such a ‘hot bed’ of NRL support, why is Brookvale not always a sell out? Why don’t Manly get decent crowds wherever they play in Sydney??

The reasons are varied but I'll summarize some: Dilution of top flight Rugby league clubs in northern Sydney, Little presence in private schools of rugby league, locals relating to local games and rivalry. There are more but these are decent reasons leading to a decline in rugby league in this area. No doubt it won't be taken heed of by someone like yourself. But their you go. Some causes that are continuing to weaken RL and its presence in northern Sydney.

 

[Mister M]

The reasons are varied but I'll summarize some: Dilution of top flight Rugby league clubs in northern Sydney, Little presence in private schools of rugby league, locals relating to local games and rivalry. There are more but these are decent reasons leading to a decline in rugby league in this area. No doubt it won't be taken heed of by someone like yourself. But their you go. Some causes that are continuing to weaken RL and its presence in northern Sydney.

You aren’t explaining why Manly crowds are still average— instead you are continuing on your tin foil hat rant that NRL has been diluted in Northern Sydney. Maybe it’s best you take this to the NRL expansion board??

 

[Stallion]

You aren’t explaining why Manly crowds are still average— instead you are continuing on your tin foil hat rant that NRL has been diluted in Northern Sydney. Maybe it’s best you take this to the NRL expansion board??

They are valid explanations.Forgot to mention overpriced ticket entry for home games. And I'm not just explaining the poor crowds of Manly Warringah. I'm depicting and summarizing some ignored reasons for the decline of rugby league in the northern Sydney area. This ultimately reduces the popularity and relevance of the code and crowds decline. The locals are going to other codes, namely union for their "footyfix" It's now becoming relevant due largely to local rivalry and the reasons I've mentioned already.

 

[Mister M]

They are valid explanations.Forgot to mention overpriced ticket entry for home games. And I'm not just explaining the poor crowds of Manly Warringah. I'm depicting and summarizing some reasons the for the decline of rugby league in the northern Sydney area.

So if the area is in decline, how is another club going to help wise one??

Wouldn’t it just split the remaining fans and dilute the NRL supporting public even further? People in Northern Sydney have access to 9 NRL teams that they can see on a regular basis that they can reach the ground of by car or public transport. How is a 10th going to turn the crowd figures around??

 

[Stallion]

So if the area is in decline, how is another club going to help wise one??

Wouldn’t it just split the remaining fans and dilute the NRL supporting public even further? People in Northern Sydney have access to 9 NRL teams that they can see on a regular basis that they can reach the ground of by car or public transport. How is a 10th going to turn the crowd figures around??

Still not getting good are you? A buoyant local derby rivalry promotes enthusiasm and therefore cultural popularity for the code. Without this the code becomes vulnerable. This is what's happening in northern Sydney . The local relevance associated with a genuine local rivalry (Bears & Manly etc) has gone. The locals must search for another fix and union is filling the void.