2023 Origin II - Wed 21 Jun - QLD 32-6 NSW @ Suncorp

[bedlam breakout]

never been able to understand THIS about your origin - if its so important why do the teams have inexperienced coaches at the helm? or are they just personality front men for the media with more experienced coaches in the background?

 

[Belza]

Where's Joey

 

[Iamback]

Yeah real slack for a.lot of the game. No linespeed. Moses two good kicks into the in goal early, no chase. Luai and Moses both had a few good high kicks to the edges, no contest. Moses skipped down a short side first half, created a 3 on 2, To'o came with him but Crichton just watched them both.

Add to that Freddy leaving a hooker at centre for 78 mins when he has four edge forwards who have played there a bit and at least know how to defend an edge, Cam Murray warming the pine for 45 mins, Paulo off the field from mins 20-50 or 60...he can't coach

A couple of times we did bat the kick back, No one was there.

A couple of kicks through from QLD and Haas is the only one back, Just lacked the basics which is coaching

I think Murray was underdone. He was blowing 10 mins in but shouldn't of picked him.

I don't think QLD played outstanding did the basics well and pounced on NSW errors.

 

[mxlegend99]

No, Moses was better tonight than Cleary was in G1.

Wouldn’t move ahead with either 6/7 from tonight though, unless Moses was 6 and AReyn 7.

The scoreboard says otherwise.

What exactly did Moses do? Reynolds at 7 would have been the same story. There's absolutely no set plays by Fittler. Players just throw it around hoping for an overlap.

 

[BotanyBorn&Bred]

There was talk from legends that Moses could steal the #7 from Cleary with a win. Which was stupid as the obvious solution was to axe Luai and pair Moses and Cleary.

Now while the loss isn't on Moses head by any stretch. Freddy deserves to take the majority of the blame. His obsession with not picking centres in the centres is baffling.

But Moses origin career is 2 wins for 2 losses... And the team has been undoubtedly worse with him in it. Scoring less and conceding more than their average in the series without him. Id be happy for him to stay in the team at 6 with Cleary under a competent coach.

Should have been Cody at 5/8 from the start.
Form 5/8 in the league, most try assists and linebreak assists.
Can unlock that left side, or right side like shelling peas.

Now I'm thinking, ALL South's players should tell Fittler to get f...ed and boycott him and selection until he is fired.

 

[JokerEel]

I think we can all agree the issue is Freddy and Brandy.

Game 1 with the Chin we could not win game 2 with enough ball we could not score.

 

[Canard]

Bullshit, Queenslanders are Queenslanders first and Australians when it suits them, New South Welshmen are Australians first and New South Welshmen second.

Good thing the Australian cricket team is full of NSW players, we don't have to hear about Queensland pride or how great Melbourne is.

An epic sook for the ages.

 

[MRN]

Where's Joey

 

[SBD82]

I think we can all agree the issue is Freddy and Brandy.

Agreed. I’d almost forgotten about Brandy in the midst of all of Fittler’s shitf**kery.

But Brandy is a complete shit smear and the further away he is from the NSW team the better.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Where's Joey

 

[This Year?]

Where's Joey

In the toilet doing pingas.

 

[Saxon]

 

[Sphagnum]

Where's Joey

 

[6 more kfc buckets]

It took 2 years for Freddy to retire from playing once Billy started, looks like his coaching careers on the same trajectory.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Penalties 19-8 to NSW across the two games. Six agains similar.

Intense work Ashley, just getting done every time.

 

[Canard]

Spot on. When Queenslanders have an Australian representative in sport, they are referred as "Queensland's star *insert name*" not "Australia's star". The same can be said for Victoria.

Another huge salty sook

 

[Reflector]

Freddy- thanks for everything

Back in 2018 when you took on the job, you gave a squad of (mostly) emerging NSW talent the mental reset needed after the Daley era and instilled a fresh enthusiasm and self belief in the team. It reflected itself in the resilience they showed during both the series we won in 2018-19 and gave the entire state a feeling of self belief we hadn’t felt in over a decade.

But time only goes one way, and while there was a time for you to lead this state to the next chapter, that time is over. Slater has instilled that same commitment to doing the little things right that you instilled in those early days, and it is showing. You haven’t shown us you have a fresh approach that is needed to take a talented bunch of players forward.

For the good of NSW and that Blue jersey, it’s time to hand over the reigns. Do it tonight, and let the Blues start a new Chapter in Game 3 with a new face and new ideas...

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Now that Freddy’s finished polishing his mates, we can get a real coach.

Wayne Bennet, the great betrayal, bring it on.

Ratings bonanza.

 

[Showtime]

W

Yeah but Luai has also won origin and prems.. what else has walsh won besides this origin and a court date for possession?

Walsh is 20yo and played about 50 games mostly for the warriors…. Only fair metric is looks and Luai looks inbred as f*ck.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Fittler and his "advisors" didn't seem to learn much from game 1. Picked an inexperienced rookie forward who didn't do much again, get's an injury in the three quarters and this time instead of a backup half uses the backup hooker there instead

Also I oul not put Andrew Johns in the job either. He's been around this set up under Fittler and Daley before him as an advisor or assistant. Just maybe Matty Johns might be worth some consideration outside of the"usual suspects".