2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

[Iamback]

That’s what the fumblers are claiming they are getting currently

They are full of shit.

Use your own brain, 2.5m people have access to Fox Sports. Throw in ALL the sport rights fees and it isn't possible

 

[Vibing]

thumping numbers for the 2 games yesterday

well over 600K for the Brisbane game & well over 500K for the all Sydney game

 

[Vibing]

They are full of shit.

Use your own brain, 2.5m people have access to Fox Sports. Throw in ALL the sport rights fees and it isn't possible

ah no...
it quite obviously is possible
based on that tin foil hat logic the NRL isn't getting what they're getting now because & no one ever has either ...

Im sure ASIC would be interested in your theory too

Foxtel are getting 370 mill cash a year & about 30 mill in contra

 

[Vibing]

based on more subscribers the NRL is worth at least that much ...

 

[Perth Red]

That’s what the fumblers are claiming they are getting currently

We know theyre getting around $570mill cash a year 2025>
Telstra probably around $40-50mill of that cash
that leaves tv paying somewhere around $520-530mill cash
likely around $160mill ch7
$360-370mill cash fox
the figures will be in those ball parks despite’s iambacks protestations lol

 

[Perth Red]

They are full of shit.

Use your own brain, 2.5m people have access to Fox Sports. Throw in ALL the sport rights fees and it isn't possible

You need to factor into your workings that over half are on fox ptv, and a big chunk of them are bundling sports with other fox packages and paying a premium. Without the sports they likey wouldn’t be bundling so sports is also a driver for subscriptions on those other fox products.
before I bought a smart tv I was paying $110month for the fox premium box top subscription.
kayo is now $25-30, then avg fox bundle subscription would be a lot more than that.
If nrl is driving one million subscribers across ptv and STV then, with the other revenue from advertising and betting link up, the revenue would be safe to say is over $500mill a year.

 

[Harry O]

Just heard the18th NRL team could be worth an extra $375 million in TV rights negotiations.❤

 

[Colk]

Just heard the18th NRL team could be worth an extra $375 million in TV rights negotiations.❤

That was last week mate

 

[Harry O]

Lol

That was last week mate

I just seen it now,must be a slow week for me lmfao

 

[BlueandGold]

That was last week mate

Forgive him, his team just got toweled up by the Riff.

He is probably nursing a huge hangover.

 

[The_Wookie]

respectively with streaming/Reg/BVOD estimates out to

Code	Date	Day	Home	Away	Metro O/N	Reg O/N	BVOD	FTA O/N	Foxtel O/N	Fox Strm	O/N Total
NRL	6-Apr	Thu	Melbourne	Sydney	266,000	162,260	49,742	478,002	291,000	224,070	993,072
NRL	7-Apr	Fri	Cantebury	South Sydney	205,000	125,050	38,335	368,385	258,000	198,660	825,045
NRL	7-Apr	Fri	North Queensland	Dolphins	289,000	176,290	54,043	519,333	349,000	268,730	1,137,063
NRL	8-Apr	Sat	Penrith	Manly					294,000	226,380	520,380
NRL	8-Apr	Sat	Brisbane	Canberra					367,000	282,590	649,590

respectively with streaming estimates out to

Code	Day	Home	Away	Metro O/N	Reg O/N	FTA O/N	Foxtel O/N	Fox Strm	O/N Total
AFL	Thu	Brisbane	Collingwood	478,000	178,000​	656,000	248,000	175,088	1,079,088
AFL	Fri	North Melbourne	Carlton	326,000	104,320​	430,320	234,000	165,204	829,524
AFL	Sat	Adelaide	Fremantle	160000	51200	212000	177,000	124,962	513,962
AFL	Sat	Richmond	Western Bulldogs				246,000	173,676	419,676
AFL	Sat	St Kilda	Gold Coast	32,000	10,240​	42,240	84,000	59,304	185,544
AFL	Sat	Sydney	Port Adelaide	338,000	108,160​	446,160	167,000	117,902	731,062

 

[Harry O]

Haha NSW cup nearly beat the AFL in Sydney lol

 

[Iamback]

ah no...
it quite obviously is possible
based on that tin foil hat logic the NRL isn't getting what they're getting now because & no one ever has either ...

Im sure ASIC would be interested in your theory too

Foxtel are getting 370 mill cash a year & about 30 mill in contra

No one is yet that is the thing.

Even when AFL does reach $550 with contra. Ch7 will be covering $180m of that.

One day it will happen but we will be paying $60 a month for Kayo. Normal Foxtel packages will increase to cover such a thing

 

[Pneuma]

According to those data above fumbles have 3.6 million for 6 games and we have 4 million for 5. That’s an average difference of 200,000 per game. FMD

 

[Iamback]

According to those data above fumbles have 3.6 million for 6 games and we have 4 million for 5. That’s an average difference of 200,000 per game. FMD

I watched Canberra v Broncos at a pub after going to Panthers v Manly game.

On a small screen near the TAB the swans game was on. In the bottom corner was the score update in the Suns v St Kilda game.

Not only do the games overlap but you can't watch the other game on delay later due to that spoiler, That atleast covers that difference.

Hence why they are a guide and can't be an actual comparison

 

[docbrown]

I guess the question people should ask is how many of Foxtel/Kayo's 4 million+ subscriptions are driven by NRL viewership. When you consider that we get about 5 to 6 million total ratings a round, that'sabout 3 to 4 million likely unique viewers across FTA and subscription. I'd suggest it's at least 1.5 million NRL driven subscriptions. Most likely over 2 million.

 

[Pneuma]

I watched Canberra v Broncos at a pub after going to Panthers v Manly game.

On a small screen near the TAB the swans game was on. In the bottom corner was the score update in the Suns v St Kilda game.

Not only do the games overlap but you can't watch the other game on delay later due to that spoiler, That atleast covers that difference.

Hence why they are a guide and can't be an actual comparison

That’s their problem. They have too many teams, their games go for too long and their game is shite. It’s a reason they shouldn’t have 20 teams but will anyway. Fact is we can easily accommodate a 9th and tenth game if we locate the new clubs correctly and take advantage of appropriate game times. We easily outrate them on tv now and can really punish them further if we get it right.

 

[docbrown]

That’s their problem. They have too many teams, their games go for too long and their game is shite. It’s a reason they shouldn’t have 20 teams but will anyway. Fact is we can easily accommodate a 9th and tenth game if we locate the new clubs correctly and take advantage of appropriate game times. We easily outrate them on tv now and can really punish them further if we get it right.

Thursday night, Friday early, Friday night, Saturday arvo, Saturday twilight, Saturday night, Sunday arvo, Sunday twilight, Sunday night, Monday night.

10 games. No overlaps.

 

[Pneuma]

Thursday night, Friday early, Friday night, Saturday arvo, Saturday twilight, Saturday night, Sunday arvo, Sunday twilight, Sunday night, Monday night.

Yep. They could never go that without conflicting time schedules. Their problem and unsolvable unless they move to halves and shorten their goddam awful games.

 

[docbrown]

Yep. They could never go that without conflicting time schedules. Their problem and unsolvable unless they move to halves and shorten their goddam awful games.

They're going to always have 1 to 2 clashes unless they start games at 12pm. However, fewer people are watching then. Prime time slots is where the money is at. The NRL can have 5 out of 7 nights covered if it wants.

Also the NRL has never had live back to back FTA games in prime time. The closest they had was the Friday delayed game. If on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday you air two back to back games, you can target 3-4 metros in that block. E.g. Dolphins vs Rabbitohs followed by Broncos vs Storm. Suddenly that 1 million national rating becomes closer to 1.5 million across a 4 hour block.